NFC North / NFL Thread 2017-18

[Pakuni]

Good ole Jerra overplayed his hand a little, aiina?

I'll say:

The Associated Press has obtained a letter sent by the NFL to Jerry Jones' attorney accusing the Dallas Cowboys owner of ''conduct detrimental to the league's best interests'' over his objection to a contract extension for Commissioner Roger Goodell.

''Your client's antics, whatever their motivation, are damaging the league and reflect conduct detrimental to the league's best interests,'' the letter said.

Jones has said he has issues with compensation in the deal, along with concerns about the escalation of player protests involving the national anthem and how the league has handled them. He also has suggested that owners should revisit the power that the position wields.

The letter confirmed that Jones was removed as a non-voting member of the compensation committee after threatening to sue.

Jones, who was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in August, was accused of sharing with all the owners an outdated document related to the negotiations with Goodell.

''Someone who is genuinely concerned 'that the owners know the truth about the negotiations' would not deliberately distribute such an outdated document, particularly when he has in his possession drafts that are current and accurately reflect the actual state of negotiations, or threaten to sue the league and its owners if he does not get his way,'' the letter said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/feud-grows-between-nfl-cowboys-jerry-jones-over-024929316--nfl.html

[MerrittsMustache]

The thing is, Jerry has a point about The Commish's compensation, power and general ineptitude needing to be looked at. His points are being overshadowed, however, because his taking exception to these factors seemingly has more to do with Zeke's suspension than anything else.

[tower912]

I actually agree that Roger is a large part of the problem.  But so is Jerra.  It is like having two heels square off in the WWE.

[GB Warrior]

Papa John's is truly abhorrent pizza.

This is the pizza the neo-nazis deserve.

[jesmu84]

Wait. Isn't this all about the protests?

[MU82]

With a 10-4 record, the Detroit Pistons have been one of the surprising teams in the NBA. They are playing in a much-hyped new arena, with all the whistles and bells.

And yet only one team (Atlanta) has lower attendance as a percentage of seats sold, and only five have lower average attendance.

Must be those NFL anthem protesters.

[RJax55]

The thing is, Jerry has a point about The Commish's compensation, power and general ineptitude needing to be looked at. His points are being overshadowed, however, because his taking exception to these factors seemingly has more to do with Zeke's suspension than anything else.

No question. But, his point is completely hollow far beyond the self-serving nature of his issues with the Zeke suspension.

Who's the most powerful owner? Jerry.
Who countless times over the past 25 years has swayed the other owners to his side or position? Jerry.
Who determined the compensation and power for The Commish? The owners.
What group has consistently look the other way or supported the league office no matter the ineptitude? The owners.

The owners did this to themselves, led by their leader, Jerry. The NFL needs new leadership. Roger needs to go and Jerry's hegemony needs to end.

[tower912]

With a 10-4 record, the Detroit Pistons have been one of the surprising teams in the NBA. They are playing in a much-hyped new arena, with all the whistles and bells.

And yet only one team (Atlanta) has lower attendance as a percentage of seats sold, and only five have lower average attendance.

Must be those NFL anthem protesters.

Bad example.  The Red Wings are drawing poorly as well and SVG is unafraid to make his politics known.  They are playing decent basketball, however.

[MerrittsMustache]

With a 10-4 record, the Detroit Pistons have been one of the surprising teams in the NBA. They are playing in a much-hyped new arena, with all the whistles and bells.

And yet only one team (Atlanta) has lower attendance as a percentage of seats sold, and only five have lower average attendance.

Must be those NFL anthem protesters.

1) The Pistons O/U was 38.5 so expectations were meh and they don't exactly have an exciting young core of players.

2) It's 14 games into the season. If the Pistons continue to be near the top of standings in early 2018, attendance will go up.

3) How much did ticket prices increase? Something worth keeping an eye on for the Bucks' ownership. Although, the Bucks actually do have one of the most exciting players in the NBA.

[Pakuni]

No question. But, his point is completely hollow far beyond the self-serving nature of his issues with the Zeke suspension.

Who's the most powerful owner? Jerry.
Who countless times over the past 25 years has swayed the other owners to his side or position? Jerry.
Who determined the compensation and power for The Commish? The owners.
What group has consistently look the other way or supported the league office no matter the ineptitude? The owners.

The owners did this to themselves, led by their leader, Jerry. The NFL needs new leadership. Roger needs to go and Jerry's hegemony needs to end.

This all presumes that the commissioner and the owners are separate entity. They're not.
Every dumb decision, every stupid stance, every obfuscation, lie, money grab Roger makes is done at the behest of the owners. They pay him so well to be the patsy when something they want goes south.

[Dish]

1) The Pistons O/U was 38.5 so expectations were meh and they don't exactly have an exciting young core of players.

2) It's 14 games into the season. If the Pistons continue to be near the top of standings in early 2018, attendance will go up.

3) How much did ticket prices increase? Something worth keeping an eye on for the Bucks' ownership. Although, the Bucks actually do have one of the most exciting players in the NBA.

Tower would know best, but from what I read, most Piston players and fans are not happy with playing in an arena designed and decorated all for hockey.

[MU82]

I'm sticking with the anthem protests as the cause.

Also the cause for famine in Africa and the surprising return of whooping cough.

[tower912]

Tower would know best, but from what I read, most Piston players and fans are not happy with playing in an arena designed and decorated all for hockey.

There is truth there.  The Palace was of the same vintage as the Bradley Center.  Gores decided to jump on the bandwagon of having all 4 major teams' arenas right next to each other.  It isn't a great venue for hoops.

[GGGG]

Drew Magary wrote up a real nice piece on the NFL's troubles and saying it is the NFL's fault.

https://deadspin.com/the-nfl-cant-stick-to-sports-and-its-all-the-nfls-fault-1820504568

"And it is TOTALLY the NFL's fault that they took it upon themselves to be the vanguard of American values. The NFL wanted to be about more than football, and now they act surprised when extracurricular issues pervade the sport. Look at right now. We're still in the middle of "Salute to Service month," which has long been a poorly veiled mix of commerce and nationalism. This comes on the heels of cancer month, which is a wonderful cause but again represents the NFL making a dramatic overreach beyond its skill set. The NFL is actively bad at solving non-football problems, but no one asked them to try. And now they've gotten so caught up in all that crap that they now suck at the football part, which is all they should have focused on to begin with."

[Jockey]

Drew Magary wrote up a real nice piece on the NFL's troubles and saying it is the NFL's fault.

https://deadspin.com/the-nfl-cant-stick-to-sports-and-its-all-the-nfls-fault-1820504568

"And it is TOTALLY the NFL's fault that they took it upon themselves to be the vanguard of American values. The NFL wanted to be about more than football, and now they act surprised when extracurricular issues pervade the sport. Look at right now. We're still in the middle of "Salute to Service month," which has long been a poorly veiled mix of commerce and nationalism. This comes on the heels of cancer month, which is a wonderful cause but again represents the NFL making a dramatic overreach beyond its skill set. The NFL is actively bad at solving non-football problems, but no one asked them to try. And now they've gotten so caught up in all that crap that they now suck at the football part, which is all they should have focused on to begin with."

What does football have to do with the military?

And, why are my tax $$$ being used to pay for this connection?

[Hards Alumni]

What does football have to do with the military?

And, why are my tax $$$ being used to pay for this connection?

Well, its a great format for Nationalism and propaganda, really.

[Jockey]

Flaccid may be worse than Hundley.

[wadesworld]

2nd and 22. Inside 2 minutes, miraculously only down 3, Hundley under center. Run the ball twice, make them take their TOs, give it to them at their 20. Now they're already in FG range

It's not that hard. Incredible how stupid Mac can be. Minor miracle you could be down 3-0 at half the way it went. But Mac just throws the ball twice and puts them in FG range by himself.

[jsglow]

Flaccid may be worse than Hundley.

Umm, no.

[jesmu84]

Ug.. bears lose 2 first round picks on same play. Brutal.

[Jockey]

Umm, no.

Obviously. I was being sarcastic cuz Flacco is really bad.


Kaep is much better than either of these guys

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I like to think Pace called down to tell Barth to shank that one. Woudla been so Bears like to come back and win that game to screw up their draft stock.

[tower912]

Never a doubt.

[tower912]

Lion's run defense is nonexistent since Ngata got hurt.  I expect the Vikings to dominate on thanksgiving.

[GGGG]

Worst Packer quarterbacking performance since the days of Blair Kiel.