NFC North / NFL Thread 2017-18

[CreightonWarrior]

Need a defense that can stop anyone. Haven't had that in a long time.

[wadesworld]

Hundley just isn't good. He may grow to become serviceable. That's about it.

Can't even see that.

This team with Rodgers is around 13-3 (courtesy of a horrible schedule).

With an average starting QB (say Dalton, Flacco, Manning) they're a 10-6 type team that wins the North and loses in the Divisional or Wild Card round.

With Hundley starting all year they're fighting for the first overall pick with the 9ers and Brownies.

[wadesworld]

Need a defense that can stop anyone. Haven't had that in a long time.

The defense isn't good. But it's not awful. When your offense can't keep you on the sidelines for more than 2 minutes you're going to give up yards and points. Just is what it is.

[Jockey]

The defense isn't good. But it's not awful. When your offense can't keep you on the sidelines for more than 2 minutes you're going to give up yards and points. Just is what it is.

The D was brutal when Rodgers was healthy. Now hoping Capers gets fired and we get a top 5 pick.

[GB Warrior]

The D was brutal when Rodgers was healthy. Now hoping Capers gets fired and we get a top 5 pick.

Our defense has not played terribly these last 3 weeks. It is not elite; it is not good. But it is not the issue with this team right now.

[GGGG]

That game against the Bears is gonna be a something on Sunday.

[tower912]

The comeback/collapse begins.

[GGGG]

This defense can't create a turnover or even a big play. It's not good.

[Jockey]

Our defense has not played terribly these last 3 weeks. It is not elite; it is not good. But it is not the issue with this team right now.

I guess you're right

They have forced the Lions to punt zero times tonight. Defenses don't get worse than that.

[tower912]

Screen pass against the blitz was the back breaker.

[Jockey]

That game against the Bears is gonna be a something on Sunday.

Won't even be close. It will be the first time Trubisky will look like an NFL QB.

[Dish]

That game against the Bears is gonna be a something on Sunday.

The loser of that game will be the real winner.

[CreightonWarrior]

The dude has been coordinator since 2009, longest active tenure in the NFL by 3 Years. Time after time we get smoked out of the playoffs. Thompson doesn't give him any talent but there's barely any development. He must have something on McCarthy.

[Jockey]

The dude has been coordinator since 2009, longest active tenure in the NFL by 3 Years. Time after time we get smoked out of the playoffs. Thompson doesn't give him any talent but there's barely any development. He must have something on McCarthy.

C'mon man. His boys held the Lions to 400+ yards.

[🏀]

The dude has been coordinator since 2009, longest active tenure in the NFL by 3 Years. Time after time we get smoked out of the playoffs. Thompson doesn't give him any talent but there's barely any development. He must have something on McCarthy.

TT has drafted plenty of defensive talent.

[MUBBau]

Kaepernick would have won that game

[GooooMarquette]

They have forced the Lions to punt zero times tonight. Defenses don't get worse than that.

Zero punts and only one forced TO.  Wow.

[4everwarriors]

Aaron's should demand $50 mill/season. Dis team ain't stink and he's gott'em bye da curly cues, ai na?

[tower912]

I saw two teams last night that lack playmakers on defense, lack running games, lack great offensive lines.    One still has their starting quarterback.    If the positions were reversed, and AR played and the Lions were going with Jake Rudock at quarterback, the beatdown would have gone the other way and been worse.   

[GGGG]

TT has drafted plenty of defensive talent.

But how talented is it?

[MerrittsMustache]

Dom Capers is the DC equivalent of Andy Dalton. He's good enough to get you to the playoffs but he's not carrying you anywhere once you get there. He's too good to simply get rid of because there are A LOT worse options out there but he obviously has his ceiling.

By the way, the Bears are favored over GB for the first time in nearly a decade. In that game, the Bears won 20-17 while totaling just 142 yards of offense. A sign of things to come this Sunday? 

[GGGG]

I think the Packers should part ways with Ted Thompson and seek the next solution as GM.  John Dorsey would be my choice.  Then let the new GM make decisions about the coaching staff.

[B. McBannerson]

Please provide links showing evidence of millionaire athletes disrespecting veterans.

Why don't you ask the veterans that feel disrespected.  That's all that matters.   You can find many vets that support the protests and many that say it is disrespectful.  It all comes down to how each individual feels, that's what ultimately matters in this.

The players can say it isn't about the flag (even though Kapaernick said he would not respect the flag or country, his words) and isn't about the military, but if some in the military think it is, then it is for them.  For others in the military, it isn't an issue.

For people like myself, apparently Vin Scully, and according to the polls you like to mention the majority are with me when asked if we should stand for the anthem and flag.  That it is disrespectful not to is our belief. For the same reason it is disrespectful to shout during a moment of silence. If the NFL chooses to allow actions that disrespect flag and country, then we boycott NFL and sponsors. 

Please understand that doesn't mean I, or the military, or Vin Scully do not believe players have the right to do what they are doing.  We just feel the NFL is wrong in how they approached this and we vote with our remote control and purchasing power.

[4everwarriors]

I think the Packers should part ways with Ted Thompson and seek the next solution as GM.  John Dorsey would be my choice.  Then let the new GM make decisions about the coaching staff.

Man, I've agree with Jock and Grumpy 2 daze in a row. Watts wrong here, hey?

[B. McBannerson]

This wasn't an issue until the Commander in Tweet couldn't help himself and got out of his lane.  Then staged a publicity stunt that cost hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars out of sheer pettiness.  He's a POS that is the real issue here.

This statement was incorrect the last time you said it and still is today.

During the preseason, over 70 players knelt, sat or power fisted during the national anthem.
In Weeks 1 and 2, players did the same from nine different teams.

Ratings in weeks 1 and 2 were awful.
#boycottNFL trended highly in week 2

The CiC made his comments just prior to week 3, and absolutely gas was thrown on the fire, but to suggest it wasn't an issue prior to that is ignoring data.

If the players didn't do what they did in preseason, week 1, and week 2, CiC doesn't make his comments.  He's a reactionary person.  It doesn't happen in a vacuum for him.  If you don't want CiC to tweet about something, don't call attention to it which is exactly what the players were doing.

The last time CiC made a NFL tweet was Sept 30th, more than 5 weeks ago.  Has the issue stopped?  Are ratings rebounding? Did Vin Scully throw fuel on the fire? Did Papa John's? Did Wall Street with warnings about financial impacts? Did Jerry Jones when he said the league is being impacted greatly? Did Jim Brown when he said players should stand and honor flag and country?