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Tugg Speedman

Rank these new Big 10 hires from best to worst

Chris Holtmann to tOSU
Archie Miller to IU
Brad Underwood to Illini

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 09, 2017, 09:42:59 PM
I think OSU is a better job. They were willing to play big bucks and it is easier to recruit blue chip talent there.

Miller is a very good coach . His speciality was getting the most out of players by helping them improve their games . That is why he recruited Kostas to Dayton . Holtmann was very impressive though at Butler especially given the circumstances in which he got the job , so I would give the slight nod to Holtmann as the Bette hire but only by a little bit.

The Chicago Tribune disagrees with you.  In fact, they think tOSU is a middling Big Ten job.

What's the Big Ten's best basketball coaching job? And what's the worst?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-big-ten-basketball-coaches-ranked-photos-photogallery.html

1. Indiana
2. Maryland
3. Wisconsin
4. Michigan
5. Michigan State
6. Illinois
7. Ohio State
8. Purdue
9. Iowa
10. Northwestern
11. Minnesota
12. Rutgers
13. Nebraska
14. Penn State

Herman Cain

#202
Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on June 09, 2017, 10:03:39 PM
The Chicago Tribune disagrees with you.  In fact, they think tOSU is a middling Big Ten job.

What's the Big Ten's best basketball coaching job? And what's the worst?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-big-ten-basketball-coaches-ranked-photos-photogallery.html

1. Indiana
2. Maryland
3. Wisconsin
4. Michigan
5. Michigan State
6. Illinois
7. Ohio State
8. Purdue
9. Iowa
10. Northwestern
11. Minnesota
12. Rutgers
13. Nebraska
14. Penn State
Last I looked The Chicago Tribune went through bankruptcy.
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    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

warriorchick

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 09, 2017, 10:08:43 PM
Last Imloked The Chicago Tribune went through bankruptcy.

A little early in the weekend to be this strung out, isn't it?
Have some patience, FFS.

Anti-Dentite

You know the difference between a dentist and a sadist, don't you? Newer magazines.

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#205
Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on June 09, 2017, 10:03:39 PM
The Chicago Tribune disagrees with you.  In fact, they think tOSU is a middling Big Ten job.

What's the Big Ten's best basketball coaching job? And what's the worst?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-big-ten-basketball-coaches-ranked-photos-photogallery.html

1. Indiana
2. Maryland
3. Wisconsin
4. Michigan
5. Michigan State
6. Illinois
7. Ohio State
8. Purdue
9. Iowa
10. Northwestern
11. Minnesota
12. Rutgers
13. Nebraska
14. Penn State

Illinois is not a better job. That's just homerism right there.

This list sucks. It's not what's the better job more than it is recent success.  Michigan State? Will that be a good job post- Izzo? Wisconsin, no way a better job.

Maryland? Okay...because of UA.

Indiana
Maryland
Michigan
Ohio State

Wisconsin
Michigan State
Purdue
Illinois

The rest.

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#206
Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on June 09, 2017, 09:53:44 PM
Rank these new Big 10 hires from best to worst

Chris Holtmann to tOSU
Archie Miller to IU
Brad Underwood to Illini

Underwood
Holtmann
Archie

Dawson Rental

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on June 09, 2017, 09:53:44 PM
Rank these new Big 10 hires from best to worst

Chris Holtmann to tOSU
Archie Miller to IU
Brad Underwood to Illini

Considering how each school is currently positioned, they all did as well as they could reasonably expect to do.  A very nice off season for the Big Ten.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Nukem2

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on June 09, 2017, 09:53:44 PM
Rank these new Big 10 hires from best to worst

Chris Holtmann to tOSU
Archie Miller to IU
Brad Underwood to Illini
1 - Underwood.  2 - tie between Miller/Holtmann.   Big 14 did well.

brewcity77

1) Ohio State - Holtmann
2) Illinois - Underwood
3) Indiana - Miller

Holtmann has proven he can win in a major league consistently and can recruit. He's the clear home run. Underwood seems like a solid hire, but he's not been at the high major level long enough to prove he's Holtmann's equal. Miller I'm not impressed with. His entire career is that one Elite Eight run, then beating up on a mediocre league. Honestly, next year was going to be his measuring stick, to see if he could win without those 4 seniors. Instead, he capitalized before the bottom fell out. Smart move.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on June 09, 2017, 09:53:44 PM
Rank these new Big 10 hires from best to worst

Chris Holtmann to tOSU
Archie Miller to IU
Brad Underwood to Illini

I'll tell you in 5 years ;D
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Lennys Tap


MarquetteDano

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 09, 2017, 12:18:22 PM
Meh. I personally had a run in with some nasty and vulgar Butler fans in Maui a few years back. Put a bad taste in my mouth for all things Butler. I enjoy watching them lose more than most of the Big East programs. To each their own!

Agree with this.  Butler fans not too cool in Maui.

B. McBannerson


MUBurrow

Is the measure who you think is the best coach right now, or who is the best hire given the school's status and expectations? Up for interpretation on either score, but for my money, best to worst when judging the school/AD's job making a hire is
1) Illinois - Amazing they were able to make Pickens look like a cheap ass
2) tOSU - if you don't hold the timing against them, they made out nicely for a June hire
3) I4 - meh

GGGG

Exactly. Illinois made the boldest, most out of the box move. I was surprised and it may work out the best for them.

Lennys Tap

I think tOSU caught a break if McDermott turned them down. Holtmann's a better selection.

brewcity77

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 11, 2017, 07:40:00 PM
I think tOSU caught a break if McDermott turned them down. Holtmann's a better selection.

Agreed. Still baffled how they offered McDermott before Holtmann.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 11, 2017, 10:21:43 PM
Agreed. Still baffled how they offered McDermott before Holtmann.

OSU insiders claim that there wasn't an offer. They are saying that McDermott leaked that there was an offer in order to leverage Creighton. No idea if its true.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


GGGG

And the word is that Holtmann initially turned them down before OSU talked to McD. 

Mr. Nielsen

Holtmann turned down a 6 year deal.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

MU82

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on June 09, 2017, 10:03:39 PM
The Chicago Tribune disagrees with you.  In fact, they think tOSU is a middling Big Ten job.

What's the Big Ten's best basketball coaching job? And what's the worst?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-big-ten-basketball-coaches-ranked-photos-photogallery.html

1. Indiana
2. Maryland
3. Wisconsin
4. Michigan
5. Michigan State
6. Illinois
7. Ohio State
8. Purdue
9. Iowa
10. Northwestern
11. Minnesota
12. Rutgers
13. Nebraska
14. Penn State

Silliness.

It's a list for list's sake because people like lists, including Scoop people.

As for which BT school made the better hire, my two favorite words in sports:

We'll

see

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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on June 09, 2017, 10:03:39 PM
The Chicago Tribune disagrees with you.  In fact, they think tOSU is a middling Big Ten job.

What's the Big Ten's best basketball coaching job? And what's the worst?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-big-ten-basketball-coaches-ranked-photos-photogallery.html

1. Indiana
2. Maryland
3. Wisconsin
4. Michigan
5. Michigan State
6. Illinois
7. Ohio State
8. Purdue
9. Iowa
10. Northwestern
11. Minnesota
12. Rutgers
13. Nebraska
14. Penn State

Any list that does not have Rutgers at the bottom is automatically discredited. And it's funny to see how Northwestern has suddenly vaulted in front of programs with better facilities, lower academics and that have had more success after finally making the NCAA tourney for the first time.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

GoldenWarrior11

Rutgers should be at the bottom, yes.  Then Penn State.  Nebraska probably third-last, but they did just heavily invest in the new arena and facilities, so they are at least trying.  I'd rank Minnesota ahead of Northwestern, just because of recruiting areas in the state, and the academic restrictions for Northwestern.  Purdue and Ohio State should be ahead of Illinois at this point, IMO.

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