Big East Too Early Preview

[Lennys Tap]

I said repeatedly that we were 2-3 games away from being a tournament team in 2016. I said repeatedly from before the start of the season that we needed to win 22-23 games to be a tournament team because of our weak non-conference schedule. Had things broken differently in three specific games (Belmont, DePaul, Creighton) we would have been in, but while that is true, I don't believe I categorized it the way you are describing. Feel free to look through my old posts and prove me wrong.

I agree that it's accurate that you "repeatedly" said that we were 2-3 games from making the tournament in 2015-16 and that had things "broken differently" (i.e., we had some good luck) vs Belmont, DePaul, Creighton we were in. You did this, though, without acknowledging the 7 or 8 "coin flip" games we won that year. Luck being equal we were a "fair value" 18-15 or 17-16 team. We were extremely lucky and had no business being anywhere near the tourney (except by luck), but the picture that you repeatedly painted suggested differently.

My version (that we were much better than our record in 2016-17 and much worse than it in 2015-16 was one agreed upon by Pomeroy, Sagerin and the NCAA/NIT selection committee. Squeaking out wins against a bottom feeder (DePaul) and a mid major (Belmont) on top of our other 7 or 8 "coin flip" wins wasn't going to (for example) move us into the top 80 in Pomeroy. The fact that we didn't even sniff the NIT argues that the committee would have seen the forest (our true value) for the trees (what would have been an incredibly lucky final record).

Look, you're a fan and one of our best. Massaging the facts in our favor isn't a crime - as long as you know that's what you're doing, it's OK by me.

[brewcity77]

You did this, though, without acknowledging the 7 or 8 "coin flip" games we won that year

That's absolutely false. Look at the post above. I specifically acknowledged our 7-3 record in one-possession games and 11-3 record in two-possession games. That post was from March 7, 2016.

Look back at the second post I made. I was up front and clear about the "coin flip" games we won that year.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Well if Georgetown had any hopes of softening their landing, they are gone now. Tremont Waters officially is taking his talents elsewhere. To LSU, who we may see in Maui.

[Dr. Blackheart]

With our offense, we need our defense to be luckier (or better).

[Dawson Rental]

Heldt 6'10" 250
John 6'9" 240
Harry 6'11" 250
Ike 6'9" 230

We've gotten bigger (nh)

Morrow will "weigh in" during practices, I suspect.

[Lennys Tap]

That's absolutely false. Look at the post above. I specifically acknowledged our 7-3 record in one-possession games and 11-3 record in two-possession games. That post was from March 7, 2016.

Look back at the second post I made. I was up front and clear about the "coin flip" games we won that year.

Indeed you did - in that post. I apologize as I did not recall that acknowledgement/admission. I recalled many posts by you about how close we were that didn't include how lucky we were. I don't have the energy to search, but if my recollection is wrong my apologies for that also.