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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on December 14, 2016, 03:37:30 PM
I can't fault Traci for going somewhere to play more, but kids really need to figure out they'd be better off to play here the rest of the season, then transfer and save some eligibility.

Seriously. What a waste of eligibility. Plus you might work hard and improve, others might slump and you take advantage, so many possibilities. Now only 1.5 years left. Sucks.

Lighthouse 84

I couldn't agree more that Traci was not going to see the floor before Markus and Rowsey.  He did play good defense, but his offense was definitely not as high as the others.  With his knee issue, that set him back further.  I'd have liked to see him stick it out, but good luck to the Engine.

Next man up, hey?
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So...  Was traci sitting out the past few games because of an injury, or to try and have more eligibility left?

If he indeed sat out instead of being ready to help his teammates the past few games, I couldn't be more thrilled for him to leave.  (If that was his intent)
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Jay Bee

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on December 14, 2016, 05:49:25 PM
Seriously. What a waste of eligibility. Plus you might work hard and improve, others might slump and you take advantage, so many possibilities. Now only 1.5 years left. Sucks.

He has 2 full years of eligibility remaining
The portal is NOT closed.

MuMark

Quote from: Jay Bee on December 14, 2016, 06:12:10 PM

He has 2 full years of eligibility remaining

But unless he sits all of next year will only end up playing 3 years instead of 4.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Jay Bee on December 14, 2016, 06:12:10 PM

He has 2 full years of eligibility remaining

You thinking injury redshirt? Other inside info? Or are you just being your usual pedant when you know he's likely going to play 2nd semester next year at his new school, meaning he will play only play 1.5 more years?

Jay Bee

#106
The guy said "so many possibilities, now only 1.5 left". He has other possibilities... at a minimum up to 2 years... and if he also opted to have significant surgery, could be inline for a hardship waiver and therefore have up to 2.5
The portal is NOT closed.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Jay Bee on December 14, 2016, 06:26:01 PM
The guy said "so many possibilities, now only 1.5 left". He has other possibilities... at a minimum up to 2 years... and if he also opted to have significant surgery, could be inline for a hardship waiver and therefore have up to 2.5

Which begs the question, why not just have the surgery and injury redshirt here? Then he has several years without Duane and Rowsey ahead of him.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Looks like there are some family issues going on according to The latest article from Matty V.

Really wish it was Rowsey instead.


Jay Bee

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on December 14, 2016, 06:29:52 PM
Which begs the question, why not just have the surgery and injury redshirt here? Then he has several years without Duane and Rowsey ahead of him.

Howard, aina? Guy didn't have a good path to PT
The portal is NOT closed.

4everwarriors

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BM1090

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 14, 2016, 06:34:33 PM
Looks like there are some family issues going on according to The latest article from Matty V.

Really wish it was Rowsey instead.

Rowsey has been good since the Pitt game.

Traci seems like a classy kid. Said all the right things.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on December 14, 2016, 06:41:41 PM
Rowsey has been good since the Pitt game.

Traci seems like a classy kid. Said all the right things.

This particular transfer is gonna annoy me for awhile. Rowsey is gonna be eaten alive defensively by the Big East. Also thing he will struggle in the offensive end against bigger guards like Brunson, Sumner, hell even Garrett could probably do a job defensively against Rowsey.

wadesworld

Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 14, 2016, 05:38:44 PM
Rather than working hard to earn a spot or learning how to overcome adversity (i.e. you are now the little fish in a pond with bigger fish) they quit. The really sad thing is they still believe they can make a living playing basketball rather than stay in school and earn a degree which will benefit them much better in the real world. So who will be our next "snowflake".

Or they came in seeing an opening at their position and choose the school because of this opportunity to be a major contributor and the next year 2 new guys at the same position become eligible to play and are better than them.  Two people who work equally as hard at something don't progress at the same rate.  Painting someone who has an opportunity to put himself in what he sees as a better situation for him as a quitter without knowing the person or the situation whatsoever is beyond silly.

Marqus Howard

I like Traci but we'll be fine without him. A place like Temple is probably a good fit for him.

wadesworld

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 14, 2016, 06:46:02 PM
This particular transfer is gonna annoy me for awhile. Rowsey is gonna be eaten alive defensively by the Big East. Also thing he will struggle in the offensive end against bigger guards like Brunson, Sumner, hell even Garrett could probably do a job defensively against Rowsey.

Rowsey's 2 best games at MU so far have come against 6'3"+ guards (Johnson/Jones for Pitt and Koenig/Schowalter for UW).

Jay Bee

Quote from: wadesworld on December 14, 2016, 07:01:31 PM
Or they came in seeing an opening at their position and choose the school because of this opportunity to be a major contributor and the next year 2 new guys at the same position become eligible to play and are better than them.  Two people who work equally as hard at something don't progress at the same rate.  Painting someone who has an opportunity to put himself in what he sees as a better situation for him as a quitter without knowing the person or the situation whatsoever is beyond silly.

Amen. Props to Traci for following his thoughts even though it's difficult. No reason to wait if you're unhappy with how things have changed and want to move on.
The portal is NOT closed.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: wadesworld on December 14, 2016, 07:06:40 PM
Rowsey's 2 best games at MU so far have come against 6'3"+ guards (Johnson/Jones for Pitt and Koenig/Schowalter for UW).

Yea and look what Koenig did against Markus and Rowsey.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: JerseyWarrior on December 14, 2016, 07:05:26 PM
I like Traci but we'll be fine without him. A place like Temple is probably a good fit for him.

Post Al (last 40 years) is Marquette a better program than Temple? If yes, not by much.

GGGG

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 14, 2016, 07:36:55 PM
Post Al (last 40 years) is Marquette a better program than Temple? If yes, not by much.

Post Al?  Probably not.  Temple had eight Elite 8 appearances between 1988 and 2001, but no Final Fours.

But post 2001?  Marquette's been better and is in a better conference.

wadesworld

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 14, 2016, 07:21:37 PM
Yea and look what Koenig did against Markus and Rowsey.

You said bigger guards (and used Brunson as an example, who is very small) will shut him down.

Koenig will have big days against a lot of guards this year.

4everwarriors

Seems like a nice kid, but dis duzn't push back da program one bit. Folks bitchin' 'bout defense, mind games, no bigs, no boards, etc. Well, da reality is dis team's got very little talent on da roster. Utter than da H-Squared freshmen, der ain't stink on da roster. So, its all good providin' an upgrade in talent is brought in, ai na?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: wadesworld on December 14, 2016, 07:54:00 PM
You said bigger guards (and used Brunson as an example, who is very small) will shut him down.

Koenig will have big days against a lot of guards this year.

Jalen Brunson is 6'3" and built like a tank. It's Markus' show now but he can't play 40 minutes every game.

wadesworld

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 14, 2016, 07:57:14 PM
Jalen Brunson is 6'3" and built like a tank. It's Markus' show now but he can't play 40 minutes every game.

Wow didn't realize he was that tall. Could've sworn he was more around 6 feet.

I think Rowsey will surprise you. He's a player. But he will get exposed on the defensive end at times. Just as the rest of this team will.

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