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Will The Cubs Win The World Series?

Yes
27 (32.5%)
No
56 (67.5%)

Total Members Voted: 83

Vander Blue Man Group


brewcity77

Wow, Arietta. First home run Bumgarner ever gave up to a pitcher.





Tugg Speedman

If the Cubs lose tonight, does a whiff of panic, harking back to 1984 and 2003, set in?

WI inferiority Complexes

Quote from: Jesse Livermore on October 11, 2016, 05:59:34 PM
If the Cubs lose tonight, does a whiff of panic, harking back to 1984 and 2003, set in?

Any team in the history of baseball would feel "a whiff of panic," if facing an elimination game.

brewcity77

Quote from: Jesse Livermore on October 11, 2016, 05:59:34 PM
If the Cubs lose tonight, does a whiff of panic, harking back to 1984 and 2003, set in?

Of course. Nature of a series going from 2-0 to 2-2 and facing a pitcher that had a great outing against you a week earlier.

buckchuckler

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on October 08, 2016, 11:26:15 PM
Thanks for Addison and for sucking every time the Cubs face you, Jeff.

I think that is what you meant, going back to our previous conversation this year.   ;)

buckchuckler

#60
Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on October 11, 2016, 06:43:36 PM
Any team in the history of baseball would feel "a whiff of panic," if facing an elimination game.

Really?  Have you ever heard of the San Francisco Giants? 

Edit:  Having a terrible bullpen isn't the same as panicking.

Double Edit: Maybe that was a terrible pen made worse by panic.

brandx

Two guys who I think belong among the top 5 managers in the game - Showalter & Bochy - made the moves that cost their teams a chance to move on.

If I am managing the Cubs, I have to get to the point where Will Smith needs to come into the game. If I get there, I am going to win. And making the move to pinch hit for a guy who had 95 Ribbies with the game on the line got then the matchup they needed.


As a Brewer fan, I was happy to see Will Smith traded. He was the last guy I wanted on the mound in a close game. He almost always had good numbers, but I thought they were always better than the actual pitcher.


Next? I predict Cubs in 5 or 6 no matter who they play. Tonight was the kind of game that Al said you always had to have at some point to win a championship.

buckchuckler

I agree, the Cubs should cruise to the WS.  You would have to combine the Nats and Dodgers to have a team that could beat the Cubs. 

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: buckchuckler on October 11, 2016, 11:35:31 PM
I agree, the Cubs should cruise to the WS.  You would have to combine the Nats and Dodgers to have a team that could beat the Cubs.

Look at you trying to jinx the Cubs.  :)

What a comeback. And not having to face Kershaw or Scherzer in game 1 is nice. Very nice. Either team will be very tough.

And Conor f'n Gillaspie?!? 

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: buckchuckler on October 11, 2016, 10:08:58 PM
I think that is what you meant, going back to our previous conversation this year.   ;)

He's no Shields!  :D

MU82

Fun series to watch, especially if, like me, one didn't really care who won. I just wanted compelling baseball, and the Cubbies and Giants provided it.

After Rizzo walked, I actually said out loud to my dog, "Zobrist is going to tie it with a homer." I was wrong, but not by that much.

If you don't believe me, ask my dog. Or ask Hannity - your choice.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Mutaman

Query: Were those Cub fans who were opposed to the signing of Chapman rooting for him to blow the save?

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Mutaman on October 12, 2016, 12:11:06 AM
Query: Were those Cub fans who were opposed to the signing of Chapman rooting for him to blow the save?

The Cubs didn't sign Chapman.

To answer your question, I didn't like the trade but I was absolutely rooting for the team to win the game.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Mutaman on October 12, 2016, 12:11:06 AM
Query: Were those Cub fans who were opposed to the signing of Chapman rooting for him to blow the save?

I would have been fine with him blowing the save and the Cubs winning in extras.


MerrittsMustache

Quote from: brandx on October 11, 2016, 11:22:13 PM
Two guys who I think belong among the top 5 managers in the game - Showalter & Bochy - made the moves that cost their teams a chance to move on.

If I am managing the Cubs, I have to get to the point where Will Smith needs to come into the game. If I get there, I am going to win. And making the move to pinch hit for a guy who had 95 Ribbies with the game on the line got then the matchup they needed.


As a Brewer fan, I was happy to see Will Smith traded. He was the last guy I wanted on the mound in a close game. He almost always had good numbers, but I thought they were always better than the actual pitcher.


Next? I predict Cubs in 5 or 6 no matter who they play. Tonight was the kind of game that Al said you always had to have at some point to win a championship.

Bochy is going into the HOF as a manager but he botched that 9th inning.

Coghlan is hitting .195 vs righties on the season (.120 vs LHP!) but you have to know that Maddon is going to swap him out once a pitching change is made. Take your chances with Coghlan against a righty in that situation. Later, how do you pitch to Baez with first open and Ross on deck? Are you scared of Miguel Montero or Tommy La Stella as a PH?

Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful for the moves but I couldn't believe what I was watching for a number of reasons!

GGGG

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on October 12, 2016, 08:23:34 AM
Bochy is going into the HOF as a manager but he botched that 9th inning.

Coghlan is hitting .195 vs righties on the season (.120 vs LHP!) but you have to know that Maddon is going to swap him out once a pitching change is made. Take your chances with Coghlan against a righty in that situation. Later, how do you pitch to Baez with first open and Ross on deck? Are you scared of Miguel Montero or Tommy La Stella as a PH?

Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful for the moves but I couldn't believe what I was watching for a number of reasons!



Not to mention that he tried to get too cute with a fastball, missed his spot, and Baez put it into center.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on October 12, 2016, 09:21:48 AM

Not to mention that he tried to get too cute with a fastball, missed his spot, and Baez put it into center.

True. It rarely ends well when a slider pitcher throws a fastball to a pure fastball hitter. Smoltz was beside himself.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on October 12, 2016, 08:23:34 AM
Bochy is going into the HOF as a manager but he botched that 9th inning.

Coghlan is hitting .195 vs righties on the season (.120 vs LHP!) but you have to know that Maddon is going to swap him out once a pitching change is made. Take your chances with Coghlan against a righty in that situation. Later, how do you pitch to Baez with first open and Ross on deck? Are you scared of Miguel Montero or Tommy La Stella as a PH?

Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful for the moves but I couldn't believe what I was watching for a number of reasons!

Ross had a home run and 2 rbi's in the game. As well as being an excellent but with no outs. It would have been stupid to put runners on first and second with no outs with an incredible bunter at the plate.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: #UnleashWally on October 12, 2016, 10:24:02 AM
Ross had a home run and 2 rbi's in the game. As well as being an excellent but with no outs. It would have been stupid to put runners on first and second with no outs with an incredible bunter at the plate.

There was 1 out, the game was tied and the potential winning run was already on second. I'd take my chances with Ross (or a LH pinch hitter) over Baez.


brandx

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on October 12, 2016, 11:03:31 AM
There was 1 out, the game was tied and the potential winning run was already on second. I'd take my chances with Ross (or a LH pinch hitter) over Baez.

Every time!! It was a no-brainer.

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