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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: JWags85 on April 08, 2016, 09:14:54 AM
I was seeing word of a sprain last night.  That would be FANTASTIC given how it looked.

Absolutely - I was expecting the worse.  Holding my breath until the MRI results are released though. Glad Fowler wasn't injured as well. 

Instances like this are exactly why you don't trade key depth like Soler or Baez.

Even if he is out a couple of months the team should be fine.  Just need him back for the stretch run, and assuming the season goes well, the playoffs.   

wadesworld

Sounds like they're worried about a season ending ACL injury...

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: wadesworld on April 08, 2016, 12:11:47 PM
Sounds like they're worried about a season ending ACL injury...

Source?  And if it's the Olney tweet there was a lot of room for misinterpretation. 

Hopefully it's not the worst-case scenario. 

RushmoreAcademy

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 08, 2016, 12:23:17 PM
Source?  And if it's the Olney tweet there was a lot of room for misinterpretation. 

Hopefully it's not the worst-case scenario. 

Jesse Rogers is tweeting that the MRI is looking at the knee and not the ankle.

MerrittsMustache

#54
Heard on ESPN 1000 about an hour ago that the Cubs FO is very concerned about the injury and the possibility of an ACL tear. Granted, it was Dave Kaplan saying this and he tends to blow up a small bit of info in hopes of taking credit for breaking the story, but still. It's out there.

That said, and not to downplay Schwarber's ability, but if one of the young 'uns was going to miss time, he's the one they could afford to lose. There's no version of Jorge Soler currently backing up Bryant, Rizzo or Russell.

copious1218

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 08, 2016, 12:57:02 PM
Heard on ESPN 1000 about an hour ago that the Cubs FO is very concerned about the injury and the possibility of an ACL tear. Granted, it was Dave Kaplan saying this and he tends to blow up a small bit of info in hopes of taking credit for breaking the story, but still. It's out there.

That said, and not to downplay Schwarber's ability, but if one of the young 'uns was going to miss time, he's the one they could afford to lose. There's no version of Jorge Soler currently backing up Bryant, Rizzo or Russell.

Baez?  Lastella?

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 08, 2016, 12:57:02 PM
That said, and not to downplay Schwarber's ability, but if one of the young 'uns was going to miss time, he's the one they could afford to lose. There's no version of Jorge Soler currently backing up Bryant, Rizzo or Russell.

This is absolutely correct. If you had to choose a front line guy to lose, Schwarber would be the choice hands down. That said, health is the #1 key for the Cubs this year (as for all teams). They were remarkably healthy last year, so you have to be somewhat concerned the law of averages is going to catch up. Obviously remains to be seen, but potentially off to a rough start.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 08, 2016, 12:57:02 PM
Heard on ESPN 1000 about an hour ago that the Cubs FO is very concerned about the injury and the possibility of an ACL tear. Granted, it was Dave Kaplan saying this and he tends to blow up a small bit of info in hopes of taking credit for breaking the story, but still. It's out there.

That said, and not to downplay Schwarber's ability, but if one of the young 'uns was going to miss time, he's the one they could afford to lose. There's no version of Jorge Soler currently backing up Bryant, Rizzo or Russell.

I guess when I read that they are very concerned I take that as a pretty obvious statement.  Are they very concerned because of new information and how he is feeling today or because of just how brutal the collision was last night?  Either way, I hate waiting for news. 

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 08, 2016, 01:17:13 PM
This is absolutely correct. If you had to choose a front line guy to lose, Schwarber would be the choice hands down. That said, health is the #1 key for the Cubs this year (as for all teams). They were remarkably healthy last year, so you have to be somewhat concerned the law of averages is going to catch up. Obviously remains to be seen, but potentially off to a rough start.

Exactly.  They should have the depth to sustain his loss but now that depth is thinned out quite a bit and another significant injury would be a major issue. 

ChitownSpaceForRent

Especially if the Szczur guy can keep it up. Bat looks good and a way better defender than Schwarber.

Sheriff

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 08, 2016, 02:09:14 PM
Especially if the Szczur guy can keep it up. Bat looks good and a way better defender than Schwarber.

And a Villinova alumnus.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 08, 2016, 02:09:14 PM
Especially if the Szczur guy can keep it up. Bat looks good and a way better defender than Schwarber.

He has looked much better with the bat but he's more a 25th man/5th OF than someone you want playing on a regular basis.  I'd just be surprised if the offense was sustainable.  Good dude, though.   

MUEng92

Full tear of ACL and LCL. Done for year. @#$%)(*_%@#$

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MUEng92 on April 08, 2016, 05:12:43 PM
Full tear of ACL and LCL. Done for year. @#$%)(*_%@#$

Just brutal. Now more concerned for his long-term prognosis.

Huge loss but I think the team will be fine. Soler and Baez need to step up.

Warriors10

Quote from: MUEng92 on April 08, 2016, 05:12:43 PM
Full tear of ACL and LCL. Done for year. @#$%)(*_%@#$

So it begins...you'd figure the baseball gods would have waited a few more months before making Cubs fans suffer.

brandx

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 08, 2016, 05:28:25 PM
Just brutal. Now more concerned for his long-term prognosis.

Huge loss but I think the team will be fine. Soler and Baez need to step up.

I still like Soler. Always thought of him as an Adam Jones / Nelson Cruz type of guy. He's probably 2-3 years away from that level, but he will be fine this year.

Below replacement level guys like Matt Szczur are a dime a dozen.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Let's put it this way, if there was one person the Cubs could afford to lose, it was Schwarber. You can pit Bryant in left and Baez at 3rd, same deal with LaStella and you have Soler or Szczur to play LF. They're fine now but can't afford any more injuries now.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: brandx on April 08, 2016, 06:27:29 PM
I still like Soler. Always thought of him as an Adam Jones / Nelson Cruz type of guy. He's probably 2-3 years away from that level, but he will be fine this year.

Below replacement level guys like Matt Szczur are a dime a dozen.

Same page on Soler. Hopefully he can take advantage of the opportunity. The talent is there.  Losing a LH bat hurts though.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 08, 2016, 06:30:07 PM
Let's put it this way, if there was one person the Cubs could afford to lose, it was Schwarber. You can pit Bryant in left and Baez at 3rd, same deal with LaStella and you have Soler or Szczur to play LF. They're fine now but can't afford any more injuries now.

Agreed but still a big loss.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Warriors10 on April 08, 2016, 05:40:58 PM
So it begins...you'd figure the baseball gods would have waited a few more months before making Cubs fans suffer.

Cover SI this past week



WI inferiority Complexes


MUDPT

Crazy, crazy, crazy that decisions are still made before a guy is up and walking. He could easily play baseball without an ACL. There's also a good chance that he would need surgery. But to make that decision now with all of the swelling/ inflammation is crazy. What's worse is surgery pretty much guarantees arthritis in his knee, limiting his ability to catch in the future. Rant over.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: MUDPT on April 08, 2016, 06:55:37 PM
Crazy, crazy, crazy that decisions are still made before a guy is up and walking. He could easily play baseball without an ACL. There's also a good chance that he would need surgery. But to make that decision now with all of the swelling/ inflammation is crazy. What's worse is surgery pretty much guarantees arthritis in his knee, limiting his ability to catch in the future. Rant over.


Crazy crazy crazy that you think you know better than doctors that have actually seen his MRI, no?

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on April 08, 2016, 06:52:16 PM
Schwaber's not on that cover.

Understand, but the injury impacts the Cubs, who are on the cover.

buckchuckler

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 08, 2016, 08:06:58 PM
Understand, but the injury impacts the Cubs, who are on the cover.

Curses coming together!  Oogedy boogedy!

buckchuckler

On the flip side how about freaking Trevor Story!

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