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Tugg Speedman

I started a thread on this and the mods deleted it.  Hopefully this one will pass muster ...

This board has a real problem, it's Bucky.  The obsession is unhealthy.  You have to stop measuring MU's success or failure against them.  They are as relevant as any other B1G team.   Anyone care that Maryland made the s16?  That is as relevant as Bucky.

Mark Few has taken Gonzaga to 17 straight NCAAs, and has them in the S16 again.  I don't hear anyone getting worked up about their success versus MU.

Whatever Bucky does, or does not do, does not matter to MU.  It does not matter to recruiting (see HE and Hauser), it does not matter to our conference rankings, as we are in different conferences, it does not matter to our TV market, as they are a different TV market. Stop turning this into a defacto Bucky board.

It only matters to a bunch of MU alumni that live in WI and have a serious inferiority complex, which seems to be way to many. 

You need to get over it.

GWSwarrior

It is not a sick obsession when they are your main rival.  Yes Gonzaga has had success and do you know who measures themselves against Gonzaga, their main rival St. Mary's.
Fear makes you dumb.

MU TommyDieHard

Very well said! 

If we want to be like Maryland, Gonzaga or even WI we need to start getting the right in-state recruits.  Like Stone or this kid Herro from Whitnall that led a team to state semis.  Kids like Herro and Diener remind me of Koenig.  Why are we not looking for the next Diener out there?  We have no one on this current team that has the moxie of a Diener or Koenig.  Lets face it. 

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: GWSwarrior on March 21, 2016, 09:52:12 AM
It is not a sick obsession when they are your main rival.  Yes Gonzaga has had success and do you know who measures themselves against Gonzaga, their main rival St. Mary's.

They are not our main rival.  They are a team we play every year, like the 9 teams in our conference.

Tugg Speedman

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Quote from: MU TommyDieHard on March 21, 2016, 09:52:40 AM
Very well said! 

If we want to be like Maryland, Gonzaga or even WI we need to start getting the right in-state recruits.  Like Stone or this kid Herro from Whitnall that led a team to state semis.  Kids like Herro and Diener remind me of Koenig.  Why are we not looking for the next Diener out there?  We have no one on this current team that has the moxie of a Diener or Koenig.  Lets face it.

Duane Wilson
Luke Fischer
Henry Ellenson
Wally Ellenson
Matt Heldt
Sandy Cohen

MU has more WI players on its roster than Bucky.  We actually have a rotation if 5 WI players (Du, chief, Wally, Henry and Luke)

Also, Happ, Brown and Hayes are not from WI.


GGGG

Quote from: MU TommyDieHard on March 21, 2016, 09:52:40 AM
Very well said! 

If we want to be like Maryland, Gonzaga or even WI we need to start getting the right in-state recruits.  Like Stone or this kid Herro from Whitnall that led a team to state semis.  Kids like Herro and Diener remind me of Koenig.  Why are we not looking for the next Diener out there?  We have no one on this current team that has the moxie of a Diener or Koenig.  Lets face it. 



Marquette just pulled in the last two co-Mr. Basketballs from Wisconsin, and you are complaining that we aren't getting the "right" in-state recruits.

Jesus Lord Almighty...

GGGG

So the dude that has an obsession with Hillary's coughing fits is posting about other's unhealthy obsessions.  Do I have that right?

KenoshaWarrior

Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 09:35:50 AM
I started a thread on this and the mods deleted it.  Hopefully this one will pass muster ...

This board has a real problem, it's Bucky.  The obsession is unhealthy.  You have to stop measuring MU's success or failure against them.  They are as relevant as any other B1G team.   Anyone care that Maryland made the s16?  That is as relevant as Bucky.

Mark Few has taken Gonzaga to 17 straight NCAAs, and has them in the S16 again.  I don't hear anyone getting worked up about their success versus MU.

Whatever Bucky does, or does not do, does not matter to MU.  It does not matter to recruiting (see HE and Hauser), it does not matter to our conference rankings, as we are in different conferences, it does not matter to our TV market, as they are a different TV market. Stop turning this into a defacto Bucky board.

It only matters to a bunch of MU alumni that live in WI and have a serious inferiority complex, which seems to be way to many. 

You need to get over it.

You dont live here do you?


Tugg Speedman

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2016, 09:58:50 AM
So the dude that has an obsession with Hillary's coughing fits is posting about other's unhealthy obsessions.  Do I have that right?

Keep this on the other board.

KenoshaWarrior

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2016, 09:58:04 AM

Marquette just pulled in the last two co-Mr. Basketballs from Wisconsin, and you are complaining that we aren't getting the "right" in-state recruits.

Jesus Lord Almighty...

I wish Duane Wilson improved like Koening did

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 21, 2016, 09:59:04 AM
You dont live here do you?

I'm sorry do I need a visa to go to Wisconsin?  Or do you have to take an oath of inferiority to Bucky to live in WI?

kryza

Couldn't disagree more. Teams need healthy rivalries to keep things interesting. I'm not even from WI or live there, but I despise UW and their fans and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: kryza on March 21, 2016, 10:01:42 AM
Couldn't disagree more. Teams need healthy rivalries to keep things interesting. I'm not even from WI or live there, but I despise UW and their fans and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Despising them is fine.  I hate the B1G, Bucky included.  Many here hate ND.  But I don't see half a dozen threads stretching for pages each essentially saying we suck only because ND is the S16.

GGGG

Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 21, 2016, 10:00:22 AM
I wish Duane Wilson improved like Koening did


You may want to look a little deeper at the stats.  Koenig is a high volume player who has a worse overall shooting percentage than Duane with less assists per game.

I'm not arguing who is better, and Koenig is clearly more valuable to UW than Wilson is to MU, but let's not let emotion cloud rational thought here.

naginiF

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2016, 09:58:50 AM
So the dude that has an obsession with Hillary's coughing fits is posting about other's unhealthy obsessions.  Do I have that right?
Both VERY funny and a legit question.

The Lens

I'm more disappointed that a conference foe, who was ranked Top 5 this year, couldn't get out of the Round of 32. 

If we're a basketball conference, we should be good at basketball.  Only having 1 S16 team, is disappointing.

I like Bucky being good, it makes our wins vs. them all the more sweeter. 

We've won 3 of the past 5, we are getting the Mr. Basketballs and the majority of the desired in-state recruits.  We're clearly winning every measurable head to head. And we're doing it during their peak, which is fun.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

MUUWUWM

Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 21, 2016, 10:00:22 AM
I wish Duane Wilson improved like Koening did

Bucky fans have been critical of Koening all year. Last night he was a hero.
Not the case for most of the year..

Hubert Davis


mu_hilltopper

(Just FYI, I didn't remove any UW thread .. not sure who did, sure it wasn't merged?)

I like seeing other Scoop posters talk about their misery, it makes me feel less alone.

But what I really really love is threads about how what other people post about is wrong and shouldn't be discussed.   If you don't like reading it, move on, find another thread.

Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020

Deal with it.    Wisconsin is an in-state rival in direct competition with us for recruits and media coverage.   Their fanbase is smug, sanctimonious and excessively hypocritical.   Most of us, even those of us who live outside of Wisconsin, interact with them daily and experience this first-hand.   Would it have been nice to Xavier pound them?   Absolutely.   Should we watch in schadenfreude when His Majesty Bo Ryan turns out to be the scumbag we knew he was?   Definitely.    You can either ignore it or embrace it.   Calling it a "Sick obsession" only makes you look self-important and smug.

dgies9156

Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2016, 09:35:50 AM
I started a thread on this and the mods deleted it.  Hopefully this one will pass muster ...

This board has a real problem, it's Bucky.  The obsession is unhealthy.  You have to stop measuring MU's success or failure against them.  They are as relevant as any other B1G team.   Anyone care that Maryland made the s16?  That is as relevant as Bucky.

Mark Few has taken Gonzaga to 17 straight NCAAs, and has them in the S16 again.  I don't hear anyone getting worked up about their success versus MU.

Whatever Bucky does, or does not do, does not matter to MU.  It does not matter to recruiting (see HE and Hauser), it does not matter to our conference rankings, as we are in different conferences, it does not matter to our TV market, as they are a different TV market. Stop turning this into a defacto Bucky board.

It only matters to a bunch of MU alumni that live in WI and have a serious inferiority complex, which seems to be way to many. 

You need to get over it.

I live in Illinois, so the Red Rodent is an unattractive nuisance.

Let's face it, the Rodent has almost no business being where he is now. So give Greg Gard credit and hope that whoever wins the Domer/Rodent match-up loses handily to North Carolina (they will).

As to the Rodent's appeal -- who cares. When we start playing like we're for real, I'll worry about it. Until we do and until we make the NCAA again (next year), we're just another mediocre team with significant deficiencies. I know Wojo is working on it and I'm looking forward to laughing at the Rodent the way we did back in the 1970s.

MU TommyDieHard

Scout a little harder.  Those Mr Basketballs outside of Henry have no heart and have not improved like another poster mentioned.  Fischer gets 4 boards a game most of the box scores I look at.  His help side defense is comparable to Greg Monroe's of the Bucks. 

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: MU TommyDieHard on March 21, 2016, 10:21:10 AM
Scout a little harder.  Those Mr Basketballs outside of Henry have no heart and have not improved like another poster mentioned.  Fischer gets 4 boards a game most of the box scores I look at.  His help side defense is comparable to Greg Monroe's of the Bucks.

Luke is the only other Wisconsin Mr. Basketball on the roster. If you don't think he's improved then you're simply not watching or you don't know what you're seeing, other than some numbers in the occasional box score.


KenoshaWarrior

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 21, 2016, 10:27:57 AM
Luke is the only other Wisconsin Mr. Basketball on the roster. If you don't think he's improved then you're simply not watching or you don't know what you're seeing, other than some numbers in the occasional box score.
i do think luke has improved and im a huge Wojo doubter.   

KampusFoods

People will definitely stop talking about Bucky if we start more threads about Bucky

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