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Quote from: Benny B on March 22, 2016, 01:03:07 PM
LofL deal for sure. 

Type(s) of coverage, benefits, qualifications, etc. are all negotiable, but typically they cover only the catastrophic stuff (i.e. career-ending injuries).  If you suffer a major injury but are still able to play after reasonable recovery (i.e. you end up being a journeyman instead of an all-star and/or delay your entry to the NBA by a couple years), those usually don't pay off.

Keep in mind, the odds of a career-ending or materially-detrimental injury are astronomically low (unless you have a known condition or pre-disposition to injury), so Lloyd's loves this kind of stuff.

And if Lloyd's is like other insurance companies, there's also a chance they might get out of paying by keeping HE on hold until he gives up.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: MUDish on March 22, 2016, 01:06:50 PM
I traded texts with Malik Newman today. He declared without an agent. In short, he believes he's NBA ready, but his family advised him to not hire an agent yet. His thinking is go to the combine and see what happens, zero to lose.

Has anyone ever torn a ligament or broken something at the combine?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Dish

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 22, 2016, 01:40:25 PM
Has anyone ever torn a ligament or broken something at the combine?

You know if that happened, he'd just go back to school, right?

brandx

#153
Quote from: radome on March 22, 2016, 12:37:32 PM
Dunn is going pro according to CBS. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25526556/providence-guard-kris-dunn-will-declare-for-the-2016-nba-draft

It is selfish to want Henry to stay; he has money to make. Just wondering, as Dunn and others declare, do you think that it could be part of the decision? Is there a point in which enough declare that this "weak" class becomes stronger and waiting until next year helps? A fellow can dream ...

It is considered a weak class even after assuming that most of these guys declare.

When guys like Diallo and Labissierre will probably be lottery picks - that is the definition of a very weak class. There weren't good enough to earn minutes on a college team, so how will they do professionally next year? No chance whatsoever to play. Small chance that they will ever be factors in the league. Just 8th or 9th players in the rotation at best.

Pakuni

Quote from: brandx on March 22, 2016, 02:46:38 PM

When guys like Diallo and Labissierre will probably be lottery picks - that is the definition of a very weak class.

I think it's more a definition of the NBA's longtime preference for tools over production.

MerrittsMustache

#155
Quote from: brandx on March 22, 2016, 02:46:38 PM
It is considered a weak class even after assuming that most of these guys declare.

When guys like Diallo and Labissierre will probably be lottery picks - that is the definition of a very weak class. There weren't good enough to earn minutes on a college team, so how will they do professionally next year? No chance whatsoever to play. Small chance that they will ever be factors in the league. Just 8th or 9th players in the rotation at best.

Most recent draft classes have been weak because of guys with "potential and upside" like Diallo and Labissierre. There hasn't been a good draft class since 2012 with Davis, Lillard, Beal, Drummond and Green. Most NBA Draft picks have no business being in the NBA their rookie year.



Pakuni

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 22, 2016, 02:52:08 PM
Most recent draft classes have been weak because of guys with "potential and upside" like Diallo and Labissierre. There hasn't been a good draft class since 2012 with Davis, Lillard, Beal, Drummond and Green.

Too soon to say for certain, but 2015 class is looking very, very good with Towns, Okafor, Porzingis, Turner, Russell, Mudiay, etc.

Herman Cain

I like to look at the Mock draft where Henry is rated lowest,  He is now rising in that  mock draft and is up to 15th.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft

This one also has good scouting reports of the players involved so it is kind of fun to watch.

Will be interesting to see how Henry does at the NBA combine. I wonder if he will be able to demonstrate some of his high  basketball IQ.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 22, 2016, 02:52:08 PM
Most recent draft classes have been weak because of guys with "potential and upside" like Diallo and Labissierre. There hasn't been a good draft class since 2012 with Davis, Lillard, Beal, Drummond and Green. Most NBA Draft picks have no business being in the NBA their rookie year.

And most importantly Crowder!

But I don't think 2013 was as bad as people claim. Though Bennett was clearly a massive flop.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

brandx

Quote from: Pakuni on March 22, 2016, 02:50:25 PM
I think it's more a definition of the NBA's longtime preference for tools over production.

Reminds me of when the old baseball scouts would call a guy "toolsy".

In other words, a great athlete, but sucks as a player.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: brandx on March 22, 2016, 06:28:06 PM
Reminds me of when the old baseball scouts would call a guy "toolsy".

In other words, a great athlete, but sucks as a player.

Better yet, "Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane."
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

real chili 83

So, like when Henry comes back next year, what will be our preseason ranking?

WarriorPride68

Quote from: real chili 83 on March 23, 2016, 05:33:10 AM
So, like when Henry comes back next year, what will be our preseason ranking?

#1 in our hearts

Shark

Quote from: real chili 83 on March 23, 2016, 05:33:10 AM
So, like when Henry comes back next year, what will be our preseason ranking?

24. But seriously. When was the last time a MU team brought back 100% of its points and minutes (ok 99.9%).

warriorchick

Quote from: Shark on March 23, 2016, 09:42:57 AM
24. But seriously. When was the last time a MU team brought back 100% of its points and minutes (ok 99.9%).

Not sure you brought that decimal point out far enough.  99.995%
Have some patience, FFS.

mu03eng

Quote from: warriorchick on March 23, 2016, 10:23:17 AM
Not sure you brought that decimal point out far enough.  99.995%

He was using significant digits to represent a scientifically accurate number.

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Windyplayer

#166
Twitter:

James E. Causey ‏@jecausey  1h1 hour ago
Another season at MU would do him some good. via Henry Ellenson's NBA decision looming http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/henry-ellensons-nba-decision-remains-known-only-to-him-b99692370z1-373170921.html ...

*Editorial writer, columnist & blogger for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Wisconsin Black Media Association president. Member of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity Inc.

EDIT: Yes, yes, I am grasping at anything that relates to HE staying.

Shark

Quote from: mu03eng on March 23, 2016, 10:31:02 AM
He was using significant digits to represent a scientifically accurate number.



Yeah, that's exactly what I did  8-)

bilsu

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 22, 2016, 01:40:25 PM
Has anyone ever torn a ligament or broken something at the combine?
That happen a few years ago. I do not remember who, but I am thinking a Florida player.

Windyplayer

Well, are you more likely to tear something playing a full season of college bball or for a few hours at a combine? I don't need the nerds for this one.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Windyplayer on March 24, 2016, 11:49:17 AM
Well, are you more likely to tear something playing a full season of college bball or for a few hours at a combine? I don't need the nerds for this one.

Maybe we could start a poll.  The results might help Henry with his decision. ;)

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Windyplayer on March 23, 2016, 11:27:11 AM
Twitter:

James E. Causey ‏@jecausey  1h1 hour ago
Another season at MU would do him some good. via Henry Ellenson's NBA decision looming http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/henry-ellensons-nba-decision-remains-known-only-to-him-b99692370z1-373170921.html ...

*Editorial writer, columnist & blogger for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Wisconsin Black Media Association president. Member of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity Inc.

EDIT: Yes, yes, I am grasping at anything that relates to HE staying.

Don't let go, Jack... Don't eve let go!

warriorchick

Quote from: Windyplayer on March 24, 2016, 11:49:17 AM
Well, are you more likely to tear something playing a full season of college bball or for a few hours at a combine? I don't need the nerds for this one.

How about tearing an achilles tendon try to max out your vertical leap?  Or straining a neck muscle trying to appear as tall as possible?
Have some patience, FFS.

Windyplayer

Quote from: warriorchick on March 24, 2016, 01:03:38 PM
How about tearing an achilles tendon try to max out your vertical leap?  Or straining a neck muscle trying to appear as tall as possible?
Good points. Also can't forget about slipping on the tile floor during a bathroom break at the combine.

warriorchick

Quote from: Windyplayer on March 24, 2016, 01:09:19 PM
Good points. Also can't forget about slipping on the tile floor during a bathroom break at the combine.

Have some patience, FFS.

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