Question on Henry's announcement

[Windyplayer]

When is it customary to announce your intentions to either stay in school or go to the draft? How often does it happen this week, during the tournament, after the tournament, etc.? Thanks.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

When is it customary to announce your intentions to either stay in school or go to the draft? How often does it happen this week, during the tournament, after the tournament, etc.? Thanks.

IIRC, most typically announce shortly after they are done playing. So an announcement could come soon. But that is not a rule by any stretch. Theres always several who wait until the last couple of days to announce.

[CreightonWarrior]

IIRC, most typically announce shortly after they are done playing. So an announcement could come soon. But that is not a rule by any stretch. Theres always several who wait until the last couple of days to announce.

FWIW it was announced that Ben Simmon's had hired Lebron's agent yesterday.

[GooooMarquette]

FWIW it was announced that Ben Simmon's had hired Lebron's agent yesterday.

Did they make the announcement into a TV show?

[🏀]

He'll likely announce once he signs with an agent, otherwise it will likely come out that he signed with an agent.

[T-Bone]

Well they now have until after the combine to decide.  I don't know why you would declare beforehand.  You get hurt in the combine, you can always go back to college and rehab (or rehab while being paid millions - if you're still that good to get drafted high). 

More here:
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/01/13/nba-draft-early-entry-deadline-ncaa-extended-combine

But still why not wait. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Did they make the announcement into a TV show?

Yeah but it got leaked on twitter so nobody watched

[GooooMarquette]

Well they now have until after the combine to decide.  I don't know why you would declare beforehand.  You get hurt in the combine, you can always go back to college and rehab (or rehab while being paid millions - if you're still that good to get drafted high). 

More here:
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/01/13/nba-draft-early-entry-deadline-ncaa-extended-combine

But still why not wait.

I'm guessing some of the guys who declare early haven't been going to class (paging Ben Simmons), so they wouldn't be eligible to return anyway. 

[keefe]

I'm guessing some of the guys who declare early haven't been going to class (paging Ben Simmons), so they wouldn't be eligible to return anyway.

That's a good question: Is Ellenson still attending classes?

[MU82]

I'm not sure why Henry has to announce he's coming back next season to lead us to the Final Four!

[GGGG]

I'm guessing some of the guys who declare early haven't been going to class (paging Ben Simmons), so they wouldn't be eligible to return anyway. 

In Simmons case, it doesn't matter if he was attending classes or not.  He is going to be gone very early.  Might as well hire an agent to get working on non-basketball deals (shoes, etc.) and to have them front the costs of getting access to the best pre-draft training possible.

If Henry wants to wait to determine his status after the combine that's fine.  But that does come at a cost.

[T-Bone]

Re: Simmons

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14906627/ben-simmons-lsu-tigers-ineligible-wooden-award

"Consideration should be given to scholastic achievement and aspirations. All candidates must have a cumulative 2.00 grade point average since enrolling in their current university."

Which may be why LSU wouldn't certify him to be eligible for the Woodie.

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And yes, that makes sense to start working out with pre-combine/draft trainers.  So, plenty of reason to declare early still.

[Spotcheck Billy]

I doubt Simmons really needs to shore up his draft stock via trainers etc. all that much. I have not seen any predictions slotting him lower than #2.

[MU82]

In Simmons case, it doesn't matter if he was attending classes or not.  He is going to be gone very early.  Might as well hire an agent to get working on non-basketball deals (shoes, etc.) and to have them front the costs of getting access to the best pre-draft training possible.

If Henry wants to wait to determine his status after the combine that's fine.  But that does come at a cost.

I'm not sure I've seen a mock draft in at least 6 months that has projected Henry as anything but a lottery pick. The exact selection number has varied, but 4-10 seems most common.

Players who expect to be drafted up there rarely take part in the combine, and their agents (or "advisers") usually advise against it. Why risk a poor showing that can drop a guy 3-5 spots when the player is seemingly locked in as a top 10?

So if that really is the case -- and Henry's "advisers" should be able to determine it to some degree of certainty by making  some inquiries -- Henry need not wait until the combine to decide if he is going or staying.

And if he need not wait to decide, he need not wait to announce.

I won't "hold it against him" if he waits -- and I'm sure he's concerned about what I think! -- because it is his prerogative. But if he really cares about Wojo and the program, he will not delay his announcement significantly.

[wadesworld]

I'm not sure I've seen a mock draft in at least 6 months that has projected Henry as anything but a lottery pick. The exact selection number has varied, but 4-10 seems most common.

Players who expect to be drafted up there rarely take part in the combine, and their agents (or "advisers") usually advise against it. Why risk a poor showing that can drop a guy 3-5 spots when the player is seemingly locked in as a top 10?

So if that really is the case -- and Henry's "advisers" should be able to determine it to some degree of certainty by making  some inquiries -- Henry need not wait until the combine to decide if he is going or staying.

And if he need not wait to decide, he need not wait to announce.

I won't "hold it against him" if he waits -- and I'm sure he's concerned about what I think! -- because it is his prerogative. But if he really cares about Wojo and the program, he will not delay his announcement significantly.

I think Wojo will know (see: already knows) well before any announcement comes public.

[muguru]

I'm not sure I've seen a mock draft in at least 6 months that has projected Henry as anything but a lottery pick. The exact selection number has varied, but 4-10 seems most common.

Players who expect to be drafted up there rarely take part in the combine, and their agents (or "advisers") usually advise against it. Why risk a poor showing that can drop a guy 3-5 spots when the player is seemingly locked in as a top 10?

So if that really is the case -- and Henry's "advisers" should be able to determine it to some degree of certainty by making  some inquiries -- Henry need not wait until the combine to decide if he is going or staying.

And if he need not wait to decide, he need not wait to announce.

I won't "hold it against him" if he waits -- and I'm sure he's concerned about what I think! -- because it is his prerogative. But if he really cares about Wojo and the program, he will not delay his announcement significantly.

Depends on which mock...

http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft #17

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/03/11/nba...brandon-ingram #15


http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/ #8

http://hoopshype.com/2016/02/27/nba-mock-draft-2016/ #18


So, while obviously these things can change based on workouts etc, if you are to believe any of these mocks, 3 of the 4 actually have him outside the lottery.

[avid1010]

thinking wojo knows exactly how to handle this type of situation...

[MU82]

Depends on which mock...

http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft #17

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/03/11/nba...brandon-ingram #15


http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/ #8

http://hoopshype.com/2016/02/27/nba-mock-draft-2016/ #18


So, while obviously these things can change based on workouts etc, if you are to believe any of these mocks, 3 of the 4 actually have him outside the lottery.

Thanks. I hadn't seen those.

I still think Henry's "people" probably will feel he need not participate in all of the physical "measurable" activities.

Those are more for second-rounders trying to get into the first, for lesser prospects trying to get drafted, etc. They are for the Jerel McNeals and the Dee Browns, and the rule allowing them to wait until after the combine before declaring is a very positive step for athletes.

And I agree with others who say Wojo will know how to handle this. He was the top assistant in a program that had 1-and-dones almost every year.

[brewcity77]

The earliest I saw an underclassman last year declaring was March 30 for Myles Turner of Texas. My guess is Henry will at least give it a week until after the first weekend of the tournament is done. Though as mentioned, until he signs with an agent, he is eligible to return. The cutoff this year isn't until June 13 to come back to school.

[MUBigDance]

One of the reasons I've heard (and it sounds like a good one) that Henry would leave now...is that the draft is relatively weak this year and he would go higher and have more upfront value.

So is 2017 draft better vs 2016? I googled one page that thinks 2017 has a lot of talent. mock drafts have a bunch of now HS seniors and some foreign guys...

So does it make it even more wise for Henry to get out now and get more early money.

[GooooMarquette]

One of the reasons I've heard (and it sounds like a good one) that Henry would leave now...is that the draft is relatively weak this year and he would go higher and have more upfront value.

So is 2017 draft better vs 2016? I googled one page that thinks 2017 has a lot of talent. mock drafts have a bunch of now HS seniors and some foreign guys...

So does it make it even more wise for Henry to get out now and get more early money.

I don't follow the mock drafts or the year-to-year comparisons, but that seems to be the feeling.

[MUVander]

Not saying this will happen with Henry but I remember a few years back Marcus Smart from OK St was supposed to be a top 3 pick in the very weak 2013 draft, but decided to return for his sophomore year. I remember I was shocked when that happened, and he entered the 2014 draft after his sophomore year in what was supposed to be a much stronger draft and he went in the 5-10 range I believe. I have a gut feeling Henry comes back for his sophomore year, not sure why.

[bobnoxious]

That's a good question: Is Ellenson still attending classes?

Seen him around with a backpack each of the last 2 days, hope thats a good sign

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If Henry is going, he should get out of Milwaukee and start working with a trainer.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Did they make the announcement into a TV show?

The 30 for 30 debuts thus sunday.