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tower912

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Seton Hall thoughts
« on: December 30, 2015, 07:55:43 PM »
1.   This isn't Presbyterian anymore, young men, this is the Big East.   
2.   Soft.    Charmin-y.
3.  I am not going to beat up on anyone.    We all saw it. 
4.   The last time we got embarrassed like this, Wojo took away the practice uni's and the Al.   What does he take away after this?
5.  Need to dig deep to make the NIT.   
6.  Officiating wildly inconsistent, but toughness and aggressiveness gets rewarded. 

« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 08:00:15 PM by tower912 »
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2015, 07:57:28 PM »
Bad (shooting) game.  We'll be better.

But, it'll be an uphill battle to make ANY post season tournament this year.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2015, 07:58:44 PM »
Jock strap, ai na?
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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2015, 07:59:14 PM »
Couldn't agree more on 1 and 2. The schedule plays a huge role in that.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2015, 08:01:19 PM »
SH has some long athletes and we struggled with that. Still feel we are going to get better and better as season moves on.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2015, 08:01:24 PM »
How a team with our bigs gets out rebounded 49-32 to a team with relatively small bigs is pathetic. Couple that with how abysmal the interior defense was...cmon. This was disgusting to watch. And that's not even taking into account how awful our guards are at getting open and making shots.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2015, 08:02:38 PM »
Saying they are a fringe NIT team after one awful half is an overreaction. That having been said - that was a totally inexcusable 20 minutes. Out-hustled the whole way and seemed like they gave up with 8 minutes to go. This is a crossroads - time for Wojo to show he can turn them around in a hurry - just like the Iowa game.

Don't forget that they clawed their way back into the lead after starting 11 in the hole. All the while not making a 3 and having their star player hit 1 FG.

I'm very disappointed - but still a believer that they can turn it around quickly. They've done it before.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2015, 08:03:29 PM »
1. yep whoever designed our schedule needs to answer some tough questions. didn't prepare us at all.
2. sick of losing in the big east
3. why the big contract for a coach who has not proven he can win in the big east? honest question
4. had my hopes up beating asu, lsu, wisconsin. those hopes came crashing back to earth tonight. my expectations have been lowered big time. the big east is really good this year. if you get killed by seton hall at home it is not a good sign. sad that our program has not been able to compete in the new big east

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2015, 08:03:43 PM »
Couldn't agree more on 1 and 2. The schedule plays a huge role in that.

While they were clearly soft today, I don't know how much that has to do with the schedule.  They weren't soft in NYC.  They weren't soft in Madison.

What concerns me about today is that the Big East is a physical conference.  Seton Hall was physical tonight.  They better figure that out.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2015, 08:04:50 PM »
Wake me up when we're good again
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2015, 08:05:26 PM »
SH had 20 turnovers and beat MU by 20.  Thats unreal

MU had 4 points in the first 10 minutes of second half

MU had 6 offensive charge calls

Fischer had 3 walks within two feet of basket

D. Wilson will have a good game, then a bad one.  This was a bad one.

Carter has played terrible last five games and tonight was his worst. Almost embarrassing for the young guy

This team is soft, especially on the boards.  They miss a big banger type and have needed one for years.

No hustle for balls, handed away passes, just not there.  Cheatham only one that showed up.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2015, 08:05:44 PM »
Not a good game at all by MU. Welcome to the Big East for the Freshman.


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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2015, 08:05:57 PM »
SH has some long athletes and we struggled with that. Still feel we are going to get better and better as season moves on.

great the team improves, but still doesn't make A tourney (NCAA, NIT, etc.) Then next year Ellenson leaves, and we are stuck with a team that is really soft inside (i.e Luke) and a team that can't shoot to save their lives (Henry was the only one to make a 3 tonight?)

...and this is reason to give wojo a contract extension?

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2015, 08:06:36 PM »
Our inability to hit a jumper and Luke missing bunny after bunny inside was brutal. Not to mention Henry routinely missing Lake Michigan from Bradford Beach.

The refs didn't beat us, but man, it could have been a lot closer. Feels like we had more offensive fouls called tonight than the last 12 games combined. Guess that was only a referee priority until conference play.

We were outplayed in the first half but somehow had the lead. Then we got bludgeoned. Still just one game. I could see us winning in Newark and still getting 10-12 in league. Hopefully this will serve as a wake-up call.
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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2015, 08:06:53 PM »
Sandy played his worst game at MU.
Traci played like he was in high school.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2015, 08:08:56 PM »
Played like freshmen.Delgado had his way with Henry and Luke.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2015, 08:09:14 PM »
This team is soft, especially on the boards.  They miss a big banger type and have needed one for years.


Same problem as the last two seasons.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2015, 08:09:54 PM »
1.   This isn't Presbyterian anymore, young men, this is the Big East.   
2.   Soft.    Charmin-y.
3.  I am not going to beat up on anyone.    We all saw it. 
4.   The last time we got embarrassed like this, Wojo took away the practice uni's and the Al.   What does he take away after this?
5.  Need to dig deep to make the NIT.   
6.  Officiating wildly inconsistent, but toughness and aggressiveness gets rewarded.
What we miss the most is the toughness that was instilled by Buzz.

tower912

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2015, 08:10:54 PM »
And Derrick Wilson as an on-ball defender.   (and Jimmy Butler....and Jae Crowder..... and Vander Blue...)
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2015, 08:11:57 PM »
1.   This isn't Presbyterian anymore, young men, this is the Big East.   
2.   Soft.    Charmin-y.
3.  I am not going to beat up on anyone.    We all saw it. 
4.   The last time we got embarrassed like this, Wojo took away the practice uni's and the Al.   What does he take away after this?
5.  Need to dig deep to make the NIT.   
6.  Officiating wildly inconsistent, but toughness and aggressiveness gets rewarded.

The Rec Center...AND the Rec Plex.  Yes, even the Rec Plex.

The team needs to start practicing on that blacktop court next to O'Donnell.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2015, 08:12:29 PM »
It was one game. Got 17 to go. Can't get down on the team. Hope they are ready Saturday. Go MU!

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2015, 08:12:52 PM »
Guess I'm glad I only saw the first half.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2015, 08:13:37 PM »
Unfortunately we can not fix poor shooters, some poor jumpers and slow reflexes.  We can fix the D,  execute better play making,  improve passing and reduce turnovers in time. Will it be enough  to be competitive in the BE this year? I let you decide.
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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2015, 08:13:45 PM »
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Seton Hall thoughts
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2015, 08:14:19 PM »
1. yep whoever designed our schedule needs to answer some tough questions. didn't prepare us at all.
2. sick of losing in the big east
3. why the big contract for a coach who has not proven he can win in the big east? honest question
4. had my hopes up beating asu, lsu, wisconsin. those hopes came crashing back to earth tonight. my expectations have been lowered big time. the big east is really good this year. if you get killed by seton hall at home it is not a good sign. sad that our program has not been able to compete in the new big east

Agree on all accounts. would love an answer to #3.

 

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