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How many years do you think Henry Ellenson will play at Marquette?

One and done
63 (27.5%)
Two and through
142 (62%)
Three or more
24 (10.5%)

Total Members Voted: 229

Voting closed: November 10, 2015, 01:15:08 PM

bilsu

I originally voted that he was one and done. Of course, if he wants to go it does not matter whether he is ready or not. He seemed to wear down on the Italy tour. I now believe he is not as ready as I thought he was. I do not even think he is the best player on the team. I think Fischer is the best player. We really could have three players go pro after this year. We will be a serious challenger to win the NCAA tournament if Henry, Luke and Duane stay.

MuMark

@PatThomas1318: Duane Wilson on Henry Ellenson "He will be Marquette's first ever one and done."

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: MuMark on October 06, 2015, 09:18:26 PM
@PatThomas1318: Duane Wilson on Henry Ellenson "He will be Marquette's first ever one and done."

Apparently Duane has never heard of Niv Berkowitz.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: MuMark on October 06, 2015, 09:18:26 PM
@PatThomas1318: Duane Wilson on Henry Ellenson "He will be Marquette's first ever one and done."

I'm fine with Henry being a one and done, so long as he doesn't turn into our programs version of Larry Hughes. Keep on the recruiting trail Wojo.

wadesworld

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on October 06, 2015, 09:33:31 PM
Apparently Duane has never heard of Niv Berkowitz.

Apparently he didn't hear from our local Scoop experts that we need to temper expectations on him because he's a freshman and unless you go to Kentucky you don't produce as freshman.  Be happy with 6 and 3 from Hank this year.

GGGG

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 06, 2015, 09:41:12 PM
I'm fine with Henry being a one and done, so long as he doesn't turn into our programs version of Larry Hughes.


I'm not sure what this means.

GoldenWarrior11

Whatever happens, happens.  I'll just enjoy the ride this season.

Galway Eagle

Glaring endorsement but Duane can exaggerate let's not forget he called Steve Taylor when of the best power forwards in the country About this time last year.

Hopefully he'll be great if he's one and done, great if he's two and through and great if he stays for three or four years.
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bilsu

I hoping Ellenson has a good enough season to be a top 5 pick. My fear is that Duane and/or Fischer would also turn pro. Everyone returning besides Henry should result in a very successful 2016-17 season.

GGGG

Quote from: bilsu on October 07, 2015, 08:30:13 AM
I hoping Ellenson has a good enough season to be a top 5 pick. My fear is that Duane and/or Fischer would also turn pro. Everyone returning besides Henry should result in a very successful 2016-17 season.


Duane would have to take an ENORMOUS jump.  He simply isn't big enough unless he becomes a hell of a PG.

NotAnAlum

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on October 07, 2015, 08:28:10 AM
Glaring endorsement but Duane can exaggerate let's not forget he called Steve Taylor when of the best power forwards in the country About this time last year.

It think its great that Duane thinks so highly of his teammate but to put that in prospective how many can't miss NBA prospects has Duane ever been on a team with?  If the Bucks players start saying H.E. is NBA ready NOW (like we heard when Wade was on team) then I'll start thinking Henry "might" leave after this freshman year.  For now I'm in the 2 years or longer camp. 

wadesworld

Quote from: NotAnAlum on October 07, 2015, 08:51:39 AM
It think its great that Duane thinks so highly of his teammate but to put that in prospective how many can't miss NBA prospects has Duane ever been on a team with?  If the Bucks players start saying H.E. is NBA ready NOW (like we heard when Wade was on team) then I'll start thinking Henry "might" leave after this freshman year.  For now I'm in the 2 years or longer camp.

He's been listed in the top 10 of 2016 NBA Draft boards for the past year and a half by people who get paid to evaluate those things.  He was 1 of 13 players chosen to represent the USA at his age group.  He's 6'10" with a guard's skillset.  Literally the only chance he stays is if he loves playing with his brother that much...and even then, he might love his brother enough to say, "I'll take care of you for the rest of your life by getting paid next year."

He gowne.

Goose

I think little to no chance of him returning for a second season. Hopefully the first of more one and done at MU.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on October 07, 2015, 08:28:10 AM
Glaring endorsement but Duane can exaggerate let's not forget he called Steve Taylor when of the best power forwards in the country About this time last year.

Hopefully he'll be great if he's one and done, great if he's two and through and great if he stays for three or four years.

Not so great for recruiting as Marquette would get a reputation as a place where great players languish and/or regress.

Henry is a one year guy.  Period.  Most people (as shown by the poll results) don't get it due to a combination of wishful thinking and our inexperience as a fan base with one and dones.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

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Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 06, 2015, 09:41:12 PM
I'm fine with Henry being a one and done, so long as he doesn't turn into our programs version of Larry Hughes. Keep on the recruiting trail Wojo.

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on October 07, 2015, 08:20:27 AM

I'm not sure what this means.

I believe that Chitown is referring to Larry Hughes status as a one and done both as a player and as the only one and done recruit for SLU.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.


Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 06, 2015, 09:41:12 PM
I'm fine with Henry being a one and done, so long as he doesn't turn into our programs version of Larry Hughes. Keep on the recruiting trail Wojo.

Yes, let's hope Henry doesn't turn us into St. Louis.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on October 06, 2015, 09:33:31 PM
Apparently Duane has never heard of Niv Berkowitz.

Lol, good catch.  Although, technically, Niv was a 1/4 and done.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

GGGG

Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on October 07, 2015, 10:54:21 AM
I believe that Chitown is referring to Larry Hughes status as a one and done both as a player and as the only one and done recruit for SLU.


Oh.  OK.  I thought he was somehow disparaging Larry Hughes.


JakeBarnes

Quote from: NotAnAlum on October 07, 2015, 08:51:39 AM
It think its great that Duane thinks so highly of his teammate but to put that in prospective how many can't miss NBA prospects has Duane ever been on a team with?  If the Bucks players start saying H.E. is NBA ready NOW (like we heard when Wade was on team) then I'll start thinking Henry "might" leave after this freshman year.  For now I'm in the 2 years or longer camp.

Diamond Stone, for one. If you follow those sorts of rankings for kids.
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bilsu

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on October 07, 2015, 08:37:05 AM

Duane would have to take an ENORMOUS jump.  He simply isn't big enough unless he becomes a hell of a PG.
Anyone can go pro, whether it is a good idea or not. See Vander Blue.

Brewtown Andy

Quote from: bilsu on October 07, 2015, 08:30:13 AM
I hoping Ellenson has a good enough season to be a top 5 pick. My fear is that Duane and/or Fischer would also turn pro.

So, your "fear" is basically that MU wins a national championship this season.
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Quote from: Brewtown Andy on October 07, 2015, 12:42:03 PM
So, your "fear" is basically that MU wins a national championship this season.

+1 -- I dream of a scenario where those three go pro next year.  My guess is the excitement of watching that happen would totally offset the temporary gap in recruiting.  Temporary would likely be the key word because Wojo would be the coach that just delivered 3 guys to the NBA.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on October 07, 2015, 12:46:43 PM
+1 -- I dream of a scenario where those three go pro next year.  My guess is the excitement of watching that happen would totally offset the temporary gap in recruiting.  Temporary would likely be the key word because Wojo would be the coach that just delivered 3 guys to the NBA.

Well if those three go pro obviously Haanif JJJ and Cohen all step up and get us to back to back national championships. 
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