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How many years do you think Henry Ellenson will play at Marquette?

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Author Topic: Ellenson: One and Done or not?  (Read 113604 times)

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Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« on: August 12, 2015, 02:15:08 PM »
I'm just curious what everyone's expectations are of Ellenson as he starts his career. While we all expect him to be good, do most people think this will be the only year he wears blue and gold, will he play out the string with his brother, or will he stay longer than Wally does?
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2015, 02:19:24 PM »
One and done, not necessarily because I expect him to dominate, but I could see him having a year like Looney at UCLA that lands him in the 1st round.

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2015, 02:21:49 PM »
The absolute only chance he stays for more than a year is if he wants to play out the rest of his brother's career with him.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2015, 02:23:20 PM »
I think it all depends on his year.  I think a 12/6 year means he's staying, yet a 15/7 game means he's gone.

A bucket + 1 isn't a lot when it comes down to it.  I was surprised b andre drummond's decision to go pro, but it worked well for him.  On the flip side Hank is expected to be an offensive game changer.  1-2 years could add the polishing that his game needs.

If there was a flip a coin option, I'd take it

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2015, 02:26:01 PM »
Can we please just enjoy this season first?  Seriously, I can already see this board living in fear of Henry leaving after 1 year that we don't even enjoy what is in front of us. 

That said, if he is as good as advertised (he looked it today), I don't see why he wouldn't be 1 and done.  I'd go get paid - you never know what can happen injury wise.  But, I for one, am going to enjoy him while he's here, rather than moan about him leaving early.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2015, 02:39:05 PM »
Staying for two would be great.
But I hope he is 1-done, because that means he did/does something truly special this year.

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2015, 02:46:18 PM »
The thing that could keep him a second year is his strength and toughness. The downsides of his game today were being pushed around a bit, dribbling up too high, and finishing in traffic. If you take into account that his game is suited to Euro style, and he may get more physical play in the Big East, he may find that he needs more strength. I'm thinking in particular when he finishes, he starts out correctly oriented and gets bumped a bit and tried to adjust the ball in the right direction but lost some touch in the process. It would be awesome if he gained some strength and could impose his will a bit more on those short hooks and jumpers. Holding position in interior defense obviously benefits from greater strength as well. In my mind, that is the thing that might keep him an extra year, having a full offseason in the college strength training program and playing starter's minutes next year, rather than spending a rookie year on the bench if his pro coach doesn't think he's strong enough yet to finish at that level. (Yes you get paid even if you're on the bench but there is a perception that it is hard to recover from a bad rookie year.)

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2015, 03:11:48 PM »
I doubt he stays just to 'get better for the next level'. We know the NBA drafts guys based on potential and HE knows it as well. The only reason I could see HE staying is he isn't in a hurry to get there (liking college life/playing with Wally) or God forbid he gets injured hurting his 1st round status.

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2015, 05:52:07 PM »
The 06 Florida team came back, the 14 Kentucky team came back, Barnes and someone else that year came back. Anything can happen if he truly loves college ball and feels like he's a part of something special at MU.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2015, 06:02:20 PM »
He's got show more mental toughness and a better shot. 

Was his dad a tough player?

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2015, 06:44:06 PM »
what the f#ck is the point of this thread?


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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2015, 06:55:43 PM »
what the f#ck is the point of this thread?

If you believe Henry Ellenson will be a one and done or not.

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2015, 06:59:24 PM »
He gone, ai na?
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2015, 07:57:39 PM »


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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2015, 09:47:36 PM »
The 06 Florida team came back, the 14 Kentucky team came back, Barnes and someone else that year came back. Anything can happen if he truly loves college ball and feels like he's a part of something special at MU.

People here act like nobody has ever stayed another year in college because they like it.

My gut feeling says 2 years for the Hankmeister.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2015, 10:03:51 PM »
I put two years, but that is more wishful thinking than anything. Do you think he would go for guaranteed first round or is he thinking lottery?

Also, we need to remember to enjoy his time in the Blue and Gold (and White and Valor Blue).
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2015, 10:06:32 PM »
I think if Wally leaves MU and goes for the Olympics, Hank goes, but if Wally sticks around I can easily see the Ellenson bros together for one more year.

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2015, 10:09:12 PM »
I put two years, but that is more wishful thinking than anything. Do you think he would go for guaranteed first round or is he thinking lottery?

Also, we need to remember to enjoy his time in the Blue and Gold (and White and Valor Blue).

Henry will be a top 10 pick if he goes.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2015, 10:15:46 PM »
Henry will be a top 10 pick if he goes.

If that's the case, let's hope he plays like it all year.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2015, 10:18:20 PM »
If that's the case, let's hope he plays like it all year.

He could be an 11 and 5 guy and he'd be a top 10 pick.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2015, 10:25:29 PM »
He could be an 11 and 5 guy and he'd be a top 10 pick.

That's what I mean. If he's going either way, I hope he puts up 25 and 10 a night, like he did today.
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2015, 10:29:00 PM »
what the f#ck is the point of this thread?

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2015, 11:12:55 PM »
That's what I mean. If he's going either way, I hope he puts up 25 and 10 a night, like he did today.

Ahh gotcha.  Well, I can certainly agree to that!
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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2015, 11:16:06 PM »
Lets wait till he trashes Bucky in Madison, and relishes the moment.  Putting fear in the heart of the Grinch twice, might compel him to stay two years.

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Re: Ellenson: One and Done or not?
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2015, 06:57:55 AM »
The Association is all about the playa's second contract. Just ax Butler or Crowder. If you're a sure fire first round pick, you'd be nuts to stick around and give it the old college try. #5 could realize in excess of 8 mil. in his rookie contract if the team extends his qualifyin' offer. He gone, ai na?
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