2015-16 NFC North/NFL thread

[Benny B]

here's the million $$ question-if this were the canadian league, which i just found out, can review penalties-would this one have been reversed if the nfl had the same??

Depends on whether the NFL hates the fu@king Lions as much as God does.

[tower912]

I doubt it would be over turned by review.   His hand was up there, it made contact with the facemask.   Is there still a distinction between 5 and 15 yard facemask penalties?   If so, I can see it not being a personal foul.   But it wouldn't be overturned with the game being over.   

[Benny B]

I doubt it would be over turned by review.   His hand was up there, it made contact with the facemask.   Is there still a distinction between 5 and 15 yard facemask penalties?   If so, I can see it not being a personal foul.   But it wouldn't be overturned with the game being over.

Agreed... looked like more of the 5-yard flavor, in which case, the game still continues and we probably would be talking about a 71-yd Hail Mary instead.

[GGGG]

In the NFL, there is only a 15 yard penalty.  College still has the 5/15 distinction.

[warriorchick]

This is the most epic video of the play - complete with Lion Superfan reaction:

http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/live-look-at-the-final-play-that-may-have-broken-my-new-friends-detroit-don-and-superfan/

[jesmu84]

This is the most epic video of the play - complete with Lion Superfan reaction:

http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/live-look-at-the-final-play-that-may-have-broken-my-new-friends-detroit-don-and-superfan/

I love BigCat

[tower912]

Agreed... looked like more of the 5-yard flavor, in which case, the game still continues and we probably would be talking about a 71-yd Hail Mary instead.

Because Rogers would have been wide open at the 5 and then walked in.    This is why I am not that ticked about the penalty.   There are many ways to defend a Hail Mary.   Detroit made the worst possible tactical decision.   Even as bad as it was, if they had been able to perform the simple act of being somewhere near the receiver 60+ yards downfield with a ball that was in the air for several seconds, they probably could have done what any remotely non-snakebit team would have done..... knocked it down.    But it is the Lions, they had those sidelines guarded 20 yards downfield, allowed AR to get a running start for his throw, and lost track of a really big guy in the middle of the field in the end zone.   Like on AR's touchdown scramble, when they face guarded the hell out of those stationary receivers while AR ran 20 yards untouched. 

Just the Lions being the Lions.   Inventing a way to lose that no one has seen before. 

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I'm sure every NFL QB can throw the ball at that height, but how many could land it in the end zone from 60 yards out?

Ever play slow pitch softball?  If you're only throwing the ball 4-5 feet over the batter's head, it's pretty easy for the average beer league pitcher to hit the plate once out of every 2-3 tries.  However, if one were to loft the ball 20 feet over the batter's head, that same average beer league pitcher hits the plate once out of every dozen tries, if he's lucky.

Unlimited arc limits are brutal. That being said, I'm a pretty good 16" pitcher.

Just from an athletic ability standpoint I think Cam, Cutler, Jameis, Big Ben and Brady can make that throw. I'm only throwing Brady in there just because hes Tom Brady.

[MerrittsMustache]

Just from an athletic ability standpoint I think Cam, Cutler, Jameis, Big Ben and Brady can make that throw. I'm only throwing Brady in there just because hes Tom Brady.

How is everyone forgetting Michael Vick? He could do that in his sleep, even at this point in his career.

[wadesworld]

How is everyone forgetting Michael Vick? He could do that in his sleep, even at this point in his career.

Heck, the guy can throw a dog that far!

[rocket surgeon]

Heck, the guy can throw a dog that far!

i just spit my coffee all over my screen-thanks!  sonuva...that was good

[Sir Lawrence]

I guess Rodgers & Rodgers sort of practiced the Hail Mary play during warm ups.  From the Detroit Free Press:

Either way, the play came off so easy, it looked like the Packers had practiced it before the game.

And here's the crazy part: They actually did.

Before the game, Aaron Rodgers was messing around, lofting high passes into the end zone to Richard Rodgers.

"Usually, it doesn't go that high in practice," Richard Rodgers said.  "But before the game, he was throwing it that high. I dropped the first one and caught the next two."

Seriously. They practiced it in warm-ups.

For the first time ever. Perfecting a miracle.

Of course, they did.

"It was pretty ironic," Richard Rodgers said. "It was pretty weird. We were just messing around. He just threw three of them, really high up to the rafters."

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2015/12/04/green-bay-packers-hail-mary/76768048/

And for the record, this Packer fan thinks Cutler has the arm strength to make that throw. 

[4everwarriors]

Lacy could use a Hail Mary 'bout now, ai na? Always amazed how well athletes and celebrities can fook up prosperity, hey?

[rocket surgeon]

Lacy could use a Hail Mary 'bout now, ai na? Always amazed how well athletes and celebrities can cook up prosperity, hey?

i think you meant bloody mary-heyna?  seeing as how he missed curfew last night/this morning.  great timing!  i thought i had a steal at $5000 on draftkings for him thinking he's due for a great game in the dome.  sonuva....

[ChicosBailBonds]

In the NFL, there is only a 15 yard penalty.  College still has the 5/15 distinction.

NCAA got rid of 5 yard designation, all are 15.  Changed in 2008.

Only high school has 5 yard / 15 yard.

[Jay Bee]

Zero question that it wasn't a face mask penalty under the NFL rules. Horrible call.

[GGGG]

NCAA got rid of 5 yard designation, all are 15.  Changed in 2008.

Only high school has 5 yard / 15 yard.

OK.  Thanks. 

[mu-rara]

Zero question that it wasn't a face mask penalty under the NFL rules. Horrible call.

Watch it in slow motion JayBee.

[MU82]

Zero question that it wasn't a face mask penalty under the NFL rules. Horrible call.

Obvious face mask. Right in front of the ref. Easy call.

[jesmu84]

Obvious face mask. Right in front of the ref. Easy call.

Heard a discussion on this. The umpire (who stands where the MLB stands) and watches the face of the QB, did not throw the flag. Either the Linesman or the Ref (one down the line of scrimmage to the QB and one behind the QB) was the one who threw it.

I'm not debating the call. But, knowing who threw it, could definitely have been thrown purely based on Aaron's reaction and not whether or not there was actually pulling on the facemask.

[Jay Bee]

Obvious face mask. Right in front of the ref. Easy call.

Read the rule book and see if you can sincerely say this again.

[MU82]

Read the rule book and see if you can sincerely say this again.

15 yards. Easy call.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Read the rule book and see if you can sincerely say this again.

I agree, not a facemask, but I also understand why the call was made.  In real time, the head movement by Rodgers, etc, it "looked" like a facemask.  Under replay, not a facemask but that isn't reviewable under replay.

[MerrittsMustache]

Well, there was Calvin Johnson's touchdown catch against the Bears..... no.   Wait.   Ummmm.   There probably are, but nobody remembers when something good happens to a 5-11 team.

What about that Golden Tate TD "catch" against the Bears this season?  They got a TD instead of an INT. That call was as bad as it gets.

[tower912]

It only took you 2 days to think of one.   I knew there had to be one at some point in history.