2015-16 NFC North/NFL thread

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You think the lame ass smirk he has on his face coming off the field after getting sacked on 3rd and long multiple times then sulking by himself with that tablet is inspiring his teamates?

He plays like a leader but he has to act like one

Thanks, I know it's a parody now.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Wide receivers are just not talented enough.

Cobb can't be the guy. Adams is trying. 12 can't turn water into wine.

More than the WRs, the defense has been abused the last three weeks.

[ronald dragon]

Thanks, I know it's a parody now.

What leadership qualities did he have on display today?

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What leadership qualities did he have on display today?

25/48, 4 TDs while getting tossed around like a rag doll.

Really the idea that Aaron Rodgers isn't a leader because he doesn't "light a fire under his teammates" and yell at them, and (in your eyes) "looks like he doesn't care."

That is a stupid sports thought.  Rodgers has turned himself into one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL because he cares...a lot.

[ronald dragon]

25/48, 4 TDs while getting tossed around like a rag doll.

Really the idea that Aaron Rodgers isn't a leader because he doesn't "light a fire under his teammates" and yell at them, and (in your eyes) "looks like he doesn't care."

That is a stupid sports thought.  Rodgers has turned himself into one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL because he cares...a lot.
[/quote I said he was a hell of a quarterback and his stats back that up.  But leaders inspire their team to play well,  which he didn't. ]

[jesmu84]

25/48, 4 TDs while getting tossed around like a rag doll.

Really the idea that Aaron Rodgers isn't a leader because he doesn't "light a fire under his teammates" and yell at them, and (in your eyes) "looks like he doesn't care."

That is a stupid sports thought.  Rodgers has turned himself into one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL because he cares...a lot.

Cutler on line 1...

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I said he was a hell of a quarterback and his stats back that up.  But leaders inspire their team to play well,  which he didn't.

So whenever the team doesn't play well it's because Aaron Rodgers didn't "inspire" them enough?

Not to mention that I thought that he had the offense playing pretty damn well toward the end of the game.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Cutler on line 1...

+1000000 not saying Rodgers isn't a leader but let's not be hypocrites about it.

[ronald dragon]

So whenever the team doesn't play well it's because Aaron Rodgers didn't "inspire" them enough?

Not to mention that I thought that he had the offense playing pretty damn well toward the end of the game.

No that isn't always the case, sometimes you get beat by the better team. The thing is I don't think the Panthers are better, and the pack proved that in the fourth quarter. But after they got whooped on in the first half and everyone's looking at each other like what just happened someone has to inspire them. And if you're the highest paid player in the league I feel like that falls on you.

[GooooMarquette]

Cutler on line 1...

Wonder if he'll injure his wrist if we make him hold long enough....

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No that isn't always the case, sometimes you get beat by the better team. The thing is I don't think the Panthers are better, and the pack proved that in the fourth quarter. But after they got whooped on in the first half and everyone's looking at each other like what just happened someone has to inspire them. And if you're the highest paid player in the league I feel like that falls on you.

So the big 4th quarter comeback was because the Packers were simply a better team?  How do you know that they weren't reacting to Rodgers' inspirational leadership?  And the way you be a leader is to yell at your teammates?

[ronald dragon]

So the big 4th quarter comeback was because the Packers were simply a better team?  How do you know that they weren't reacting to Rodgers' inspirational leadership?  And the way you be a leader is to yell at your teammates?

Yeah sometimes you do need to lay into them, not all the time like you keep trying to make it seem, but sometimes you do. Leaders find different ways of inspiring their team and that's one of them. Where was this inspirational leadership in the first 3 quarters when he would walk off the field after 3 and outs with that blank look on his face? If he had inspired them in the beginning they wouldn't have had to scramble to make that miraculous near comeback because of his "inspirational leadership".

[Jay Bee]

THE CONSENSUS rolls into first place! SKOL VIKINGS!

Let's hope Teddy is OK.

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Yeah sometimes you do need to lay into them, not all the time like you keep trying to make it seem, but sometimes you do. Leaders find different ways of inspiring their team and that's one of them. Where was this inspirational leadership in the first 3 quarters when he would walk off the field after 3 and outs with that blank look on his face? If he had inspired them in the beginning they wouldn't have had to scramble to make that miraculous near comeback because of his "inspirational leadership".

This is really dumb.

The idea that the only way to be a leader is to engage in Knute Rockne stereotypes is hilarious.

[ronald dragon]

This is really dumb.

Yeah good point you proved me wrong there. You've shown time and time again on this board you are to hard headed too ever change your mind so I'll let you keep thinking you are right.

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Yeah good point you proved me wrong there. You've shown time and time again on this board you are to hard headed too ever change your mind so I'll let you keep thinking you are right.

I'm changed my mind plenty of times.  But the idea presented has to be well thought out and have some evidence to back it up.  Yours provides neither.

[ronald dragon]

I'm changed my mind plenty of times.  But the idea presented has to be well thought out and have some evidence to back it up.  Yours provides neither.

And your thoughts on him being a leader provide none as well.

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And your thoughts on him being a leader provide none as well.

Except for the fact that he has lead his team to four straight division titles and a Super Bowl Championship (where he was MVP), while quarterbacking one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL.

[ronald dragon]

Except for the fact that he has lead his team to four straight division titles and a Super Bowl Championship (where he was MVP), while quarterbacking one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL.

I've never denied he was a good quarterback, he's one of the best in the league and those things back it up.  But leaders inspire their team to play well when things aren't going well.  Which he didn't.

[mu03eng]

I've never denied he was a good quarterback, he's one of the best in the league and those things back it up.  But leaders inspire their team to play well when things aren't going well.  Which he didn't.

So your argument is when the team isn't playing well it is Rodgers lack of leadership at fault and his talent doesn't matter but all the times they did win is because of his talent and his leadership doesn't matter?  This logic is clearly infallible.

[ronald dragon]

So your argument is when the team isn't playing well it is Rodgers lack of leadership at fault and his talent doesn't matter but all the times they did win is because of his talent and his leadership doesn't matter?  This logic is clearly infallible.

No his talent makes up for his lack of leadership in my opinion. But a leader is someone that can bring there team back when they are down and fire them up when things aren't looking good. And I did not see any of that until the 4th quarter rolled around. Look I think he is a damn good quarterback but just not a very inspiring guy, I think if he became a more inspiring leader he would end up as one of the best of all time.

[MU82]

No that isn't always the case, sometimes you get beat by the better team. The thing is I don't think the Panthers are better, and the pack proved that in the fourth quarter.

So, when the Panthers were taking a big lead, that didn't count toward them being the better team? The first 3 1/2 quarters don't count in NFL games?

The Panthers are 8-0 and have overcome considerable adversity this season ... but the Packers "proved" they were the better team by outscoring the Panthers in the fourth quarter and still losing?

Huh?

[ronald dragon]

So, when the Panthers were taking a big lead, that didn't count toward them being the better team? The first 3 1/2 quarters don't count in NFL games?

The Panthers are 8-0 and have overcome considerable adversity this season ... but the Packers "proved" they were the better team by outscoring the Panthers in the fourth quarter and still losing?

Huh?

I think the Packers are a better team? I don't get what's hard to understand about that. They didn't play up to their potential for most of the game but when they did in the 4th quarter you saw what happened. If they had played that well all game I believe the Packers would have won.

[GGGG]

It's even better.  The 4th quarter doesn't show that Rodgers is "inspiring" or "a leader."  But the first three quarters show that he lacks these qualities.  Bizarre.

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Every time you use 'fire' your perceived IQ drops by 5 points.

Worst, well documented sports cliche ever.

No one has ever 'fired' a professional team up with 'passion' through a speech or other motivational tactics. It's all bullcrap, if you believe otherwise, you're likely a Neanderthal.