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MU82

Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 08, 2019, 09:01:32 PM
  take's more than one to tango eighty-something...maintain man...maintain. but ya gotta thank 'strap for brown nosin it for ya

I accept your apology.

I've been trying to keep this thread on subject.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TSmith34, Inc.

What do you think about ABBV here MU82?  I'm seriously considering nibbling a little, despite the Humira cliff in 2023.  Yield is close to 6.7%, and with their dividend growth rate the YOC should be north of 8% in three years.

Even factoring in zero capital appreciation over that time span, the dividend is tempting.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MU82

Quote from: TSmith34 on August 09, 2019, 10:22:51 AM
What do you think about ABBV here MU82?  I'm seriously considering nibbling a little, despite the Humira cliff in 2023.  Yield is close to 6.7%, and with their dividend growth rate the YOC should be north of 8% in three years.

Even factoring in zero capital appreciation over that time span, the dividend is tempting.

Let me start with my standard caveat: Although I do write extensively about stocks, I do not pretend to be an "expert." Because of this, and because I don't want to steer my fellow investors wrong, I generally am uncomfortable at making specific recommendations.

Now, you asked a question, and I'll answer it concisely ...

I do own ABBV myself, and I also selected it last year for the public portfolio I manage. As you said, its yield is incredibly attractive, although one of the sites I trust pretty well, Simply Safe Dividends, gives it only a 50 (on a 1-100 scale) for "dividend safety."

The biggest problem with ABBV is that by far its biggest cash cow, Humira, is losing market share to similar drugs. So far, its pipeline has not produced anything close as a money-maker. Add in the unsettled political climate -- one thing politicians on both sides of the aisle seem to agree on is that drug prices need to be brought down somehow -- and one might argue that it isn't the greatest time to buy a pill company.

I bought my stake at a much lower price point, and I'm cautiously holding right now. If I get a real sense that the dividend is in danger of being cut, I will sell. As you say, it has been growing its dividend like a weed, and so far its free cash flow has covered the dividend easily, so I'm hopeful that point won't come.

Lately, it seems every bit of bad news hits ABBV harder than most, price-wise. Only you can decide if those dips represent good buying opportunities for you.

I wish you good fortune.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Cheeks

Quote from: tower912 on August 08, 2019, 02:07:08 PM
The guy who stabbed 6 people out of hate?  Yup.   Just no one else tried to politicize it in a thread about ESPN.

No one is politicizing it....thoughts and prayers.  When I worked for DIS, they put my family up in Garden Grove...it is where many employees are put up until they find lodging.  DIS may need to find another location.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

cheebs09

Quote from: Cheeks on August 10, 2019, 11:10:52 AM
No one is politicizing it....thoughts and prayers.  When I worked for DIS, they put my family up in Garden Grove...it is where many employees are put up until they find lodging.  DIS may need to find another location.

This stretch rivals some of Herman's recruiting updates.

Heisenberg

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 08, 2019, 12:28:05 AM
Calling Heise

Sorry ... was too busy counting my Disney profits

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on April 13, 2019, 06:06:27 PM
82/Chico - DIS is now a buy.  They get it.  Defending the old world is over.  DIS is a tremendous producer of content and now that they got out of the business of supporting cable, they can see their value really go up.



MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Cheeks

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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