Recruiting as of 11/15/23

[WhiteTrash]

On kon,

Duke Numbers I have heard… 2 year expectation, 250k a year.. family gets airplane flights and access to all home games ~100k or more.

Heard nba readiness and style of ball were key criteria.

Nice to see Duke following the NCAA rules and not using NIL as an inducement for recruiting. 

[Uncle Rico]

Nice to see Duke following the NCAA rules and not using NIL as an inducement for recruiting. 

Like Marquette did in the same recruitment?

[Herman Cain]

On kon,

Duke Numbers I have heard… 2 year expectation, 250k a year.. family gets airplane flights and access to all home games ~100k or more.

Heard nba readiness and style of ball were key criteria.

That is a good amount of coin for a prospect and his family. Shows what we are up against.

[WhiteTrash]

Like Marquette did in the same recruitment?

Like everyone does.

[WhiteTrash]

That is a good amount of coin for a prospect and his family. Shows what we are up against.

That's AAC level football money.

[PointWarrior]

Like Marquette did in the same recruitment?

Did Jay Bee ok this?

[Viper]

That is a good amount of coin for a prospect and his family. Shows what we are up against.

so…the days of…. yes, the university will make big cake because you help us win. In return, we give you a full-ride, academic advisors and tutors, travel to fun locations, national tv exposure, team swag. You leave here with a degree and no debt. Deal?  …are long gone? Silly me!

[wadesworld]

so…the days of…. yes, the university will make big cake because you help us win. In return, we give you a full-ride, academic advisors and tutors, travel to fun locations, national tv exposure, team swag. You leave here with a degree and no debt. Deal?  …are long gone? Silly me!

John Wooden would never...

[Lennys Tap]

John Wooden would never...

..but his guy (Sam Gilbert) would.

[WhiteTrash]

..but his guy (Sam Gilbert) would.

If you ain't cheat'n, you ain't try'n.

[BCHoopster]

Al played the game as well, but he knew what was going on, Wooden denied he knew nothing.

[79Warrior]

On kon,

Duke Numbers I have heard… 2 year expectation, 250k a year.. family gets airplane flights and access to all home games ~100k or more.

Heard nba readiness and style of ball were key criteria.

Lots of numbers thrown around. Most are bogus. Highly unlikely anyone knows other than the family. Anyway, if true, way out of our league.

[DoctorV]

Any news on Matthew Hodge?

[The Lens]

so…the days of…. yes, the university will make big cake because you help us win. In return, we give you a full-ride, academic advisors and tutors, travel to fun locations, national tv exposure, team swag. You leave here with a degree and no debt. Deal?  …are long gone? Silly me!

Are you a communist?  As a fan of the free market and a proud capitalist I think this development is fantastic.   Maybe I'm just more pro-America than you? 

[Viper]

Are you a communist?  As a fan of the free market and a proud capitalist I think this development is fantastic.   Maybe I'm just more pro-America than you?

seriously? Chill.

[Galway Eagle]

Al played the game as well, but he knew what was going on, Wooden denied he knew nothing.

If Al played then is the folksy story about Chones a lord of crap or did Al just not have to pay his best and poorest player?

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Any news on Matthew Hodge?

Crystal Ball to Maryland.  #GreenWeenie

[The Lens]

seriously? Chill.

Stop complaining about people making their value and then I will.

[Viper]

Stop complaining about people making their value and then I will.

are you related to Sultan? Mine was tongue in cheek. Banter. Nothing more. Lighten up. Enjoy life. Seashells and ballons, hey.

[The Lens]

are you related to Sultan? Mine was tongue in cheek. Banter. Nothing more. Lighten up. Enjoy life. Seashells and ballons, hey.

All good my friend. I'm color blind so I don't see the teal. Carry on.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

are you related to Sultan? Mine was tongue in cheek. Banter. Nothing more. Lighten up. Enjoy life. Seashells and ballons, hey.

So if it was tongue in cheek then you do support NIL?

[BCHoopster]

If Al played then is the folksy story about Chones a lord of crap or did Al just not have to pay his best and poorest player?

I am pretty sure he got something, but not like what is going on now. If the numbers are correct for Kon, more power to him.  He is no Guarantee he is making the pros, so take it now

[Viper]

So if it was tongue in cheek then you do support NIL?

to answer your question, I don’t support NIL. Especially this wild west version as ‘bama coach Nick Saban has alluded to. But I accept that it’s not going away, probably changing very little, so let’s roll with it. I do support a college kid making $. So, how ‘bout we make adjustments? For example, if Kon gets $250k per from Duke, all good. But, he pays his own tuition out of that. What’s leftover is his. Then, Duke quantifies Kon’s financial impact/team financial impact on the school (revenue gained), makes an adjustment that maybe pays Kon $350k the next season, but no less than the $250k agreed to initially. Kon still pays his tuition, and still keeps the difference. Every player is different, of course. Not all players have the same on-court/off-court impact. Thus, every deal is different. In some cases, the player is on a true full-ride. But, the scholarship, er, ‘contract’ will have a clause that allows for financial gain should that unheralded recruit become a star. 
When I was a student at MU, I was not on an athletic or academic scholarship. However, I left MU with no debt. I’m a free-market guy. I made money while still taking 12-18 credits per semester. I’m all for the cash!! But, if you are accepting a full ride and getting paid, then let’s make some adjustments to that.  I know, there’s always a flip side…what if I was on a full ride, and still made $? Maybe my scholarship value (cost) would be adjusted based on my declared income. So, though I don’t necessarily support NIL, I accept that it’s here. But, if it’s here, let’s get it in the corral and try to tame it to some degree.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

to answer your question, I don’t support NIL. Especially this wild west version as ‘bama coach Nick Saban has alluded to. But I accept that it’s not going away, probably changing very little, so let’s roll with it. I do support a college kid making $. So, how ‘bout we make adjustments? For example, if Kon gets $250k per from Duke, all good. But, he pays his own tuition out of that. What’s leftover is his. Then, Duke quantifies Kon’s financial impact/team financial impact on the school (revenue gained), makes an adjustment that maybe pays Kon $350k the next season, but no less than the $250k agreed to initially. Kon still pays his tuition, and still keeps the difference. Every player is different, of course. Not all players have the same on-court/off-court impact. Thus, every deal is different. In some cases, the player is on a true full-ride. But, the scholarship, er, ‘contract’ will have a clause that allows for financial gain should that unheralded recruit become a star. 
When I was a student at MU, I was not on an athletic or academic scholarship. However, I left MU with no debt. I’m a free-market guy. I made money while still taking 12-18 credits per semester. I’m all for the cash!! But, if you are accepting a full ride and getting paid, then let’s make some adjustments to that.  I know, there’s always a flip side…what if I was on a full ride, and still made $? Maybe my scholarship value (cost) would be adjusted based on my declared income. So, though I don’t necessarily support NIL, I accept that it’s here. But, if it’s here, let’s get it in the corral and try to tame it to some degree.

So when Lens asked:

Are you a communist?  As a fan of the free market and a proud capitalist I think this development is fantastic.   Maybe I'm just more pro-America than you? 

The answer was yes. The free market has determined that Kon (to use your example) is worth a free ride to Duke AND whatever he's going to make in NIL money. What socialist nonsense are you championing that you want to limit individuals from legally making money in exchange for their labor?

[MU82]

So when Lens asked:

The answer was yes. The free market has determined that Kon (to use your example) is worth a free ride to Duke AND whatever he's going to make in NIL money. What socialist nonsense are you championing that you want to limit individuals from legally making money in exchange for their labor?

Some don't consider it "labor." It's love of the game!

Now shut up and dribble and entertain me. Oh, and win or I'll boo you.