Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[Viper]

That's true. Like Sam and Virginia winning the ACC. 

Also, Joey playing on a team that  knocked off three top 5 teams late season and played their way into the tournament, lost in OT to an eventual Final Four team, and not getting run out of the gym in an NCAA game.

I know these aren't  spectacular accomplishments (major conference regular season champion is damn good for any program though), but that's still way beyond what Wojo proved capable of.

So yeah, in just one season out from under incompetent coaching, they did more in team success than Wojo could have possibly delivered.

solid

[The Sultan]

solid

Not really.  Bragging about Joey losing in the play in round of the NCAA tournament and Sam playing for an underperforming UVA team is hardly "solid."

I mean it was clear that Wojo wasn't a good coach, but let's not exaggerate the seasons either of them had because I think both of them would label them as "disappointing."

[HutchwasClutch]

I think the Hausers leaving MU showed a number of things.  First, Wojo isn't a great coach.  Second, Sam is a decent but not great player.  Third, Joey is overrated.

It proved Wojo isn't a "great" coach?!? So, what, it proved he's merely very good, pretty good, the next level below the elite coaches, etc.?  No, he was completely in over his head and incompetent.  We all saw the absolute sh!t shows his teams devolved to year in and year out.  And it was apparent before the Hausers transferred too for any fair minded observer. 

"Decent" players do not average 16 a game in Bennett's restrictive offensive system, and earn first team all ACC.  I'm not saying he is great either, but any program in America would have happily taken Sam and he would have been a major piece of their roster from day one as he was with Virginia. You'd have been hard pressed to find many better pure shooters anywhere in college than him. I know that was some nerve he showed leaving your alma mater though, so I see where your label comes from.

I'm open that Joey may prove to be overrated, but it will take more than one season following a transfer, where struggles are not uncommon, to convince me. 

[Galway Eagle]

It proved Wojo isn't a "great" coach?!? So, what, it proved he's merely very good, pretty good, the next level below the elite coaches, etc.?  No, he was completely in over his head and incompetent.  We all saw the absolute sh!t shows his teams devolved to year in and year out.  And it was apparent before the Hausers transferred too for any fair minded observer. 

"Decent" players do not average 16 a game in Bennett's restrictive offensive system, and earn first team all ACC.  I'm not saying he is great either, but any program in America would have happily taken Sam and he would have been a major piece of their roster from day one as he was with Virginia. You'd have been hard pressed to find many better pure shooters anywhere in college than him. I know that was some nerve he showed leaving your alma mater though, so I see where your label comes from.

I'm open that Joey may prove to be overrated, but it will take more than one season following a transfer, where struggles are not uncommon, to convince me.

Joey was rated as high as 16 before his broken foot his senior year. Any way you slice it he was overrated.

[The Sultan]

It proved Wojo isn't a "great" coach?!? So, what, it proved he's merely very good, pretty good, the next level below the elite coaches, etc.?  No, he was completely in over his head and incompetent.  We all saw the absolute sh!t shows his teams devolved to year in and year out.  And it was apparent before the Hausers transferred too for any fair minded observer. 

"Decent" players do not average 16 a game in Bennett's restrictive offensive system, and earn first team all ACC.  I'm not saying he is great either, but any program in America would have happily taken Sam and he would have been a major piece of their roster from day one as he was with Virginia. You'd have been hard pressed to find many better pure shooters anywhere in college than him. I know that was some nerve he showed leaving your alma mater though, so I see where your label comes from.

I'm open that Joey may prove to be overrated, but it will take more than one season following a transfer, where struggles are not uncommon, to convince me. 

I don't really care much any longer.  I have moved on to a brighter Marquette future.  So if it makes you feel good to exaggerate the Hauser story, go ahead.  I just hope you realize that they don't love you as much as you love them.

[HutchwasClutch]

Not really.  Bragging about Joey losing in the play in round of the NCAA tournament and Sam playing for an underperforming UVA team is hardly "solid."

I mean it was clear that Wojo wasn't a good coach, but let's not exaggerate the seasons either of them had because I think both of them would label them as "disappointing."

You and BLM of course cannot be honest enough to acknowledge a conference championship for Virginia, that I wasn't "bragging" their NCAA loss, and ignoring other points I made that they both did in fact experience successes that were the antithesis of Wojo teams. 

I know the bar was so low under Wojo that a close NCAA loss can be considered an accomplishment, but there you have it folks.

[The Sultan]

Joey was rated as high as 16 before his broken foot his senior year. Any way you slice it he was overrated.

I hope Hutch wasn't staring longingly at his poster of Joey when he read your post.

[brewcity77]

Sam Hauser was the only player named to both the preseason and postseason ACC First Team and did so for the league champions. It's amazing to me that people need to throw shade at him.

Joey didn't meet the hype he had coming out, but Sam met it, exceeded it, lapped it, and lapped it again. He was a really good college player

[The Sultan]

You are right brew.  I should not have called Sam merely "decent." 

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Me: "Oooo, I wonder what recruiting news there is this morning."

*Opens thread*

"Oh no."

[HutchwasClutch]

I don't really care much any longer.  I have moved on to a brighter Marquette future.  So if it makes you feel good to exaggerate the Hauser story, go ahead.  I just hope you realize that they don't love you as much as you love them.

I could really care less about them. But supposedly grown men who can't get past two college players deciding they don't want to be coached anymore by someone who's incompetent and then deciding to play for two of the very best, while using every opportunity that presents itself to smear and exaggerate or just make up crap how a first team all ACC guy was merely decent, yeah, that really irks me. 

Lenny pointed out the hypocrisy very well of how guys leaving the program of their own free will are treated here.  It's pathetic and truly character revealing.

Good goal post adjustment with what I was attempting to discuss however. 

[We R Final Four]

Me: "Oooo, I wonder what recruiting news there is this morning."

*Opens thread*

"Oh no."

Exactly. The Hausers? Awesome.

[wadesworld]

Nobody is saying Joey or Sam aren't good players. But people are pretending they had this wild success and really improved greatly as players once they left Marquette. The reality is one of them finished a single spot higher in the conference standings than they did at Marquette, and neither improved the chances of getting drafted. Both also ended up contributing to the worst defense in their respective programs in over a decade.

The reality is the Hausers did no better at UVA or MSU than they did at MU. The narrative that they were so smart to get out of MU just doesn't meet reality.

[The Sultan]

I could really care less about them. But supposedly grown men who can't get past two college players deciding they don't want to be coached anymore by someone who's incompetent and then deciding to play for two of the very best, while using every opportunity that presents itself to smear and exaggerate or just make up crap how a first team all ACC guy was merely decent, yeah, that really irks me. 

Lenny pointed out the hypocrisy very well of how guys leaving the program of their own free will are treated here.  It's pathetic and truly character revealing.

Good goal post adjustment with what I was attempting to discuss however. 

Outside of making fun of Joey eating Ja's nuts, I really haven't said anything about them.  I really stopped caring about them a long time ago.  But you exaggerating their success isn't really helpful either.

[willie warrior]

It proved Wojo isn't a "great" coach?!? So, what, it proved he's merely very good, pretty good, the next level below the elite coaches, etc.?  No, he was completely in over his head and incompetent.  We all saw the absolute sh!t shows his teams devolved to year in and year out.  And it was apparent before the Hausers transferred too for any fair minded observer. 

"Decent" players do not average 16 a game in Bennett's restrictive offensive system, and earn first team all ACC.  I'm not saying he is great either, but any program in America would have happily taken Sam and he would have been a major piece of their roster from day one as he was with Virginia. You'd have been hard pressed to find many better pure shooters anywhere in college than him. I know that was some nerve he showed leaving your alma mater though, so I see where your label comes from.

I'm open that Joey may prove to be overrated, but it will take more than one season following a transfer, where struggles are not uncommon, to convince me.

Hey do not disagree with Fluffy
After all his opinion is all that matters. Ask him, he will tell you

[willie warrior]

Blojoes and in the closet with it, huh?

As usual Uncle you missed the point. Some blojoes still do not recognize the disaster that Wojo-Dukiet was at MU.

[The Sultan]

As usual Uncle you missed the point. Some blojoes still do not recognize the disaster that Wojo-Dukiet was at MU.

Most people have moved on.  Why can't you?

[Uncle Rico]

As usual Uncle you missed the point. Some blojoes still do not recognize the disaster that Wojo-Dukiet was at MU.

No, I got the point.  Not sure what it has to do with recruiting but I appreciate your fascination with closets and bjs

[D'Lo Brown]

Anyway.

[JTJ3]

Leon Bond going off again this weekend.  Would be an awesome way for shaka to start off 2022.

(I apologize for posting about recruiting)

[tower912]

Bond.   Shaka'n, not stirred. 

[We R Final Four]

Leon Bond going off again this weekend.  Would be an awesome way for shaka to start off 2022.

(I apologize for posting about recruiting)

Where?

[JTJ3]

Where?

Spiece Run n Slam is this weekend.  One of the bigger spring aau weekends each year.

[Loose Cannon]

I think the Hausers leaving MU showed a number of things.  First, Wojo isn't a great coach.  Second, Sam is a decent but not great player.  Third, Joey is overrated.

Yep, Occam Razor

[Dawson Rental]

I could really care less about them. But supposedly grown men who can't get past two college players deciding they don't want to be coached anymore by someone who's incompetent and then deciding to play for two of the very best, while using every opportunity that presents itself to smear and exaggerate or just make up crap how a first team all ACC guy was merely decent, yeah, that really irks me. 

Lenny pointed out the hypocrisy very well of how guys leaving the program of their own free will are treated here.  It's pathetic and truly character revealing.

Good goal post adjustment with what I was attempting to discuss however.

Yes, you could care less about the Hausers, so you post on and on because....