Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[jsglow]

Okay guys, I've got '16 cleaned up on the P1 chart to the best of my quick ability.  Happy to get immediate feedback to make further corrections.  I took the liberty to put the strike through Kostas.  Additional input, especially for the out years is appreciated.

[wadesworld]

2019 (18 potentially?) Matthew Hurt continues to rise for me (nh).

Good grief. The wrist. Lovely.

Is he on the rise for MU, as far as you know?

[jsglow]

What's the latest with Hicks?  That still alive?

[4everwarriors]

On da rise sounds wonderful, ai na?

[Herman Cain]

Okay guys, I've got '16 cleaned up on the P1 chart to the best of my quick ability.  Happy to get immediate feedback to make further corrections.  I took the liberty to put the strike through Kostas.  Additional input, especially for the out years is appreciated.

Kostas is still in the mix.

[wadesworld]

Kostas is still in the mix.

Not for 2016, no.

[jsglow]

Kostas is still in the mix.

While I know nothing, absent any real evidence given the guys we're truly ON and have offers out to and are visiting I'm inclined to leave the strike in place.  But if I'm advised of any real activity..... 

[BM1090]

Kostas is still in the mix.

For other schools, sure.

[Herman Cain]

While I know nothing, absent any real evidence given the guys we're truly ON and have offers out to and are visiting I'm inclined to leave the strike in place.  But if I'm advised of any real activity..... 

Here is a good article that describes Iowa State and St. Johns Interest. It mentions Marquette among others.
http://www.todaysu.com/recruiting/cbb-recruiting/undeclared-wants-kostas-antetokounmpo/

[brandx]

Here is a good article that describes Iowa State and St. Johns Interest. It mentions Marquette among others.
http://www.todaysu.com/recruiting/cbb-recruiting/undeclared-wants-kostas-antetokounmpo/

I especially love this line:

"But before he was making a mockery of Division 4 Wisconsin high school basketball, the youngest Antetokounmpo had to remain patient."

So now in the age of everyone is a superstar, 12 pts and 7 rebounds in Div 4 against 6'1 kids is making a mockery of the rest of the state.

Wow.

[Dawson Rental]

Who the hell wrote this?  Here's my favorite hyperbole: "His handles and headiness are on the level of any guard on the planet and the best part is that he knows it."

Steph Curry, Chris Paul and James Harden just cannot figure out how Kostas was able to catch up to them so quickly.  MU should be recruiting Kostas to start at the point for us next year.

This moron really thinks that Kostas is a point guard!  Doesn't he realize that only John Dawson is Magic like?

"They want to envision their university with the ever intriguing mismatch of having a 6-foot-10 ball handler running their offense."

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Here is a good article that describes Iowa State and St. Johns Interest. It mentions Marquette among others.
http://www.todaysu.com/recruiting/cbb-recruiting/undeclared-wants-kostas-antetokounmpo/

We've entered obsession-with-Dawson level now.  Anyway, I heard Kostas only makes basic steals.

[forgetful]

Who the hell wrote this?  Here's my favorite hyperbole: "His handles and headiness are on the level of any guard on the planet and the best part is that he knows it."

Steph Curry, Chris Paul and James Harden just cannot figure out how Kostas was able to catch up to them so quickly.  MU should be recruiting Kostas to start at the point for us next year.

This moron really thinks that Kostas is a point guard!  Doesn't he realize that only John Dawson is Magic like?

"They want to envision their university with the ever intriguing mismatch of having a 6-foot-10 ball handler running their offense."

My favorite part is the youtube video indicating dunk of the year candidate.   He was called for a charge on that play...it was worth 0 pts.

[Shark]

My favorite part is the youtube video indicating dunk of the year candidate.   He was called for a charge on that play...it was worth 0 pts.

That call was bullshit. The dunk was amazing. So that's why it will continue to be referenced.

[forgetful]

That call was bullcrap. The dunk was amazing. So that's why it will continue to be referenced.

So your the guy that wrote the article.

[Herman Cain]

That call was bullcrap. The dunk was amazing. So that's why it will continue to be referenced.

Here is a  well written analysis of Kostas by Draft Express. Gives the plus and minus

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Nike-Hoop-Summit-Scouting-Reports-Forwards-5434

One of the best assets we have in our program is Todd. Give him a year to build Kostas strength up and he will have that strength he needs.

Even if we don't sign Kostas,  I like all the big guys we are looking at and hope we can get one. I am very bullish on Gill.

[Stretchdeltsig]

Todd needs to step it up.  We looked like skinny high school kids competing against NFL teams last year.

[Herman Cain]

Todd needs to step it up.  We looked like skinny high school kids competing against NFL teams last year.

Matt Heldt  lost significant body fat and gained 20 pounds of muscle. That alone was a victory.

This is going to be a big workout summer for Luke.

[forgetful]

Todd needs to step it up.  We looked like skinny high school kids competing against NFL teams last year.

Some of these things are more complicated than they seem.  Buzz recruited length (wingspan), our roster right now is build of people with length. Wojo comes from the ACC, where officiating and style of play favors length.  The BEAST favors brute strength. 

The issue with length is that it makes building strength and mass more difficult.  Players with length have to rely on technique (leverage, where they have an advantage).  The guys that we think of as our tough/solid players (aka Crowder, Butler) actually didn't have length.

Crowder only has a +2" length, JFB was +1-2 (wingspan-height).  That is actually very small in basketball terms, where in the NBA the average is +4-6. 

Cohen for instance is +4-6. 

So for players like Cohen, it will take longer to build strength, they then also need to focus tremendously on technique and how to use their length/leverage to overcome strength/deficiencies. 

So it is not as simple as just having Todd step it up.

[Herman Cain]

Some of these things are more complicated than they seem.  Buzz recruited length (wingspan), our roster right now is build of people with length. Wojo comes from the ACC, where officiating and style of play favors length.  The BEAST favors brute strength. 

The issue with length is that it makes building strength and mass more difficult.  Players with length have to rely on technique (leverage, where they have an advantage).  The guys that we think of as our tough/solid players (aka Crowder, Butler) actually didn't have length.

Crowder only has a +2" length, JFB was +1-2 (wingspan-height).  That is actually very small in basketball terms, where in the NBA the average is +4-6. 

Cohen for instance is +4-6. 

So for players like Cohen, it will take longer to build strength, they then also need to focus tremendously on technique and how to use their length/leverage to overcome strength/deficiencies. 

So it is not as simple as just having Todd step it up.

I have been in the Al and watched the guys going through their training, it is very well done. They put a heavy emphasis on technique which as you point out is key. I think this summer will be very helpful for quite a few of our guys.

Having the year off certainly helped Rowsey get stronger.

[Taint]

That call was bullcrap. The dunk was amazing. So that's why it will continue to be referenced.

You can't coach that kind of athleticism and length in a prospect like Kostas.  If there ever was a player to take a flyer on - Kostas is exactly the kind a coach should.  Fundamentals, shooting, and the rest can all be taught and improved.  God-given length and athleticism and family genes - not so much.

[GooooMarquette]

2019 (18 potentially?) Matthew Hurt continues to rise for me (nh).

Good grief. The wrist. Lovely.

I'd love to see Wojo go after this kid.  Already has an offer from Iowa State.  Looking forward to seeing some big time coaches in Rochester the next couple of seasons.

[Jay Bee]

The guys that we think of as our tough/solid players (aka Crowder, Butler) actually didn't have length.

Crowder only has a +2" length

Want to double-check that and let us know what you find?

[Herman Cain]

You can't coach that kind of athleticism and length in a prospect like Kostas.  If there ever was a player to take a flyer on - Kostas is exactly the kind a coach should.  Fundamentals, shooting, and the rest can all be taught and improved.  God-given length and athleticism and family genes - not so much.

I agree with this analysis.

[BM1090]

Want to double-check that and let us know what you find?

IIRC Jae measured between 6'4 and 6'5 but has a 6'9 wingspan