Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

This did not go unappreciated.

Thank You

[wadesworld]

My source now tells me George won the rap battle vs Drake:

You Clearly Canadian while I'm Original New York
Seltzer bubble up every time I go to work
My moves are so sweet, just call me cream soda
Homer tell these fools, I'm more Brute Force than Yoda

Haanif wear 24?  Nah, that I gotta nix
Now I'm seeing ghosts again like it's 2006
'Cept Wojo ain't tan and he don't know karate
And what's this about Diener?  He never tried to call me

Now tell Haanif his choice
If he wants to stay alive
When I say it, heed my voice
Wear number 25 (drops the mic...)

"Work" and "York" don't rhyme where I come from, ai'na?

[keefe]

My source now tells me George won the rap battle vs Drake:

You Clearly Canadian while I'm Original New York
Seltzer bubble up every time I go to work
My moves are so sweet, just call me cream soda
Homer tell these fools, I'm more Brute Force than Yoda

Haanif wear 24?  Nah, that I gotta nix
Now I'm seeing ghosts again like it's 2006
'Cept Wojo ain't tan and he don't know karate
And what's this about Diener?  He never tried to call me

Now tell Haanif his choice
If he wants to stay alive
When I say it, heed my voice
Wear number 25 (drops the mic...)

F#cking hilarious!

[JakeBarnes]

Back to the original post... Haanif will wear #25 next season- https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/604031669008515072

But did the staff talk to Marquette great Steve Taylor Jr. about using his former number?

[classof2k]

Gail Pudvan, so hot! Want to touch the heine, ai na?

Way before my time, but has Gail made the cut for the meme tournament yet?  I swear that name comes up about a dozen times a year and half this place loses their minds.

[MUDPT]

But did the staff talk to Marquette great Steve Taylor Jr. about using his former number?

Did anyone talk to DWade?  It was his number freshmen year.

[Silkk the Shaka]

My source now tells me George won the rap battle vs Drake:

You Clearly Canadian while I'm Original New York
Seltzer bubble up every time I go to work
My moves are so sweet, just call me cream soda
Homer tell these fools, I'm more Brute Force than Yoda

Haanif wear 24?  Nah, that I gotta nix
Now I'm seeing ghosts again like it's 2006
'Cept Wojo ain't tan and he don't know karate
And what's this about Diener?  He never tried to call me

Now tell Haanif his choice
If he wants to stay alive
When I say it, heed my voice
Wear number 25 (drops the mic...)

Lazar? Is that you?

[4everwarriors]

Way before my time, but has Gail made the cut for the meme tournament yet?  I swear that name comes up about a dozen times a year and half this place loses their minds.

Think of Farrah Fawcett with knockers, hey?

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

"Work" and "York" don't rhyme where I come from, ai'na?

They do where George comes from, ai'na?

[DienerTime34]

We all agree too many numbers have been retired, and that the criteria to retire jerseys is too arbitrary. The solution is simple, if an "honored" jersey is used, put a patch on it with the former player's name. Right now, nobody outside of MU fans know whose jerseys are honored. But if you go with that system, and a Marquette player is shooting a free throw on national TV/NCAA Tournament, you'll have thousands of people going "Oh yeah, George Thompson/Doc Rivers/Earl Tatum played for Marquette." It also connects the past and the future and avoids situations like these in the future.

[GGGG]

We all agree too many numbers have been retired, and that the criteria to retire jerseys is too arbitrary. The solution is simple, if an "honored" jersey is used, put a patch on it with the former player's name. Right now, nobody outside of MU fans know whose jerseys are honored. But if you go with that system, and a Marquette player is shooting a free throw on national TV/NCAA Tournament, you'll have thousands of people going "Oh yeah, George Thompson/Doc Rivers/Earl Tatum played for Marquette." It also connects the past and the future and avoids situations like these in the future.

But really, no one outside of Marquette and old, hard core fans even know who George Thompson and Earl Tatum are.

[The Lens]

Maybe too many numbers have been retired and maybe we should go toward honoring but the simple matter is nearly every sports team in America retires numbers.   When assigning numbers to new players, it probably should strike someone to say, I wonder if that number has been retired.

[GooooMarquette]

Maybe too many numbers have been retired and maybe we should go toward honoring but the simple matter is nearly every sports team in America retires numbers.   When assigning numbers to new players, it probably should strike someone to say, I wonder if that number has been retired.

True, but many of the teams that retire numbers are FAR more selective than MU has been.  For example, the Packers have won 13(?) NFL Championships, but have retired only 5 numbers to date.  Don't know exactly what criteria they apply, but it's a lot easier to restrict future use if the decision makers exercise some restraint.

[MU82]

True, but many of the teams that retire numbers are FAR more selective than MU has been.  For example, the Packers have won 13(?) NFL Championships, but have retired only 5 numbers to date.  Don't know exactly what criteria they apply, but it's a lot easier to restrict future use if the decision makers exercise some restraint.

NFL teams have to be very careful about retiring too many numbers, as they have 55 or so active players on the roster.

[StillAWarrior]

We all agree too many numbers have been retired, and that the criteria to retire jerseys is too arbitrary. The solution is simple, if an "honored" jersey is used, put a patch on it with the former player's name. Right now, nobody outside of MU fans know whose jerseys are honored. But if you go with that system, and a Marquette player is shooting a free throw on national TV/NCAA Tournament, you'll have thousands of people going "Oh yeah, George Thompson/Doc Rivers/Earl Tatum played for Marquette." It also connects the past and the future and avoids situations like these in the future.

What's done is done.  For those who have been retired, they should continue to honor them and not allow the jerseys to be worn (unless, of course, the player comes to them and says it's OK -- which won't happen).  I do agree they need some clear criteria going forward.  They've got 27 numbers to work with.  They need a criteria that will be rare enough that it's unlikely to lead to too many more.  Perhaps first team AA, but even that could lead to problems given enough time.  I think that UNC's "player of the year" criteria is good, but perhaps a little too stringent for Marquette.

And I'm honestly not sure they could use patches like you suggested.  I wonder if there are rules that require all uniforms to be...well...uniform.  I'm not sure if players can have different patches on their uniforms.

[The Lens]

True, but many of the teams that retire numbers are FAR more selective than MU has been.  For example, the Packers have won 13(?) NFL Championships, but have retired only 5 numbers to date.  Don't know exactly what criteria they apply, but it's a lot easier to restrict future use if the decision makers exercise some restraint.

It doesn't matter.  Let's say we only retired Bo Ellis and of course Dwyane Wade, you still would expect an equipment manager to cross reference that retired list.  It should not be this hard.  One way to prevent getting shot, is to not shoot yourself.  Marquette seems to inflict more damage upon themselves than any other program I follow.

[Galway Eagle]

Off topic a bit but if little Wade were to come here would we allow him to wear 3?

[Lennys Tap]

It doesn't matter.  Let's say we only retired Bo Ellis and of course Dwyane Wade, you still would expect an equipment manager to cross reference that retired list.  It should not be this hard.  One way to prevent getting shot, is to not shoot yourself.  Marquette seems to inflict more damage upon themselves than any other program I follow.

This. Every frickin' guy who posts on Scoop knew this could be a problem the minute the news was released that Hanif was wearing #24 but nobody working at Marquette did? Incredible.

[warriorchick]

This. Every frickin' guy who posts on Scoop knew this could be a problem the minute the news was released that Hanif was wearing #24 but nobody working at Marquette did? Incredible.

Geez, pick your battles, man.

It was a mistake that, while high-profile, was easily corrected, and it's extremely unlikely it will ever be repeated.

I don't know why Marquette went to all the effort to hire Wojo when apparently, there are dozens of people on this board who could run the basketball program so much better.

[mujersey]

Can someone please tell me what "Retiring a Jersey" means?  You retire a number, it is NEVER worn again.  What the hell is retiring a jersey?  "Thompson's jersey is retired."...well no kidding, he's not playing there any more!  Bart Miller's jersey is retired, too, as far as I'm concerned.  Maybe it means just a select few get their likeness on a banner hanging at the BC.  But then don't put their number on the banner.  In fact, don't hang any banners of players at all unless you RETIRE THEIR NUMBER.  Retire their jersey...just sounds so stupid!

[StillAWarrior]

It was a mistake that, while high-profile, was easily corrected, and it's extremely unlikely it will ever be repeated.

Gotta admit that is what I thought when it happened in 2006.

But, I agree...it's honestly not that big of a deal.

[🏀]

So much butt hurt over this, within my lifetime, someone will wear #24, unless they officially retire that number.

[keefe]

It doesn't matter.  Let's say we only retired Bo Ellis and of course Dwyane Wade, you still would expect an equipment manager to cross reference that retired list.  It should not be this hard.  One way to prevent getting shot, is to not shoot yourself.  Marquette seems to inflict more damage upon themselves than any other program I follow.

I rather doubt Nike ships Marquette a box with jerseys numbered 1-55 so that the equipment manager is simply handing them out and yelling, "Next!"

[jsglow]

True, but many of the teams that retire numbers are FAR more selective than MU has been.  For example, the Packers have won 13(?) NFL Championships, but have retired only 5 numbers to date.  Don't know exactly what criteria they apply, but it's a lot easier to restrict future use if the decision makers exercise some restraint.

And have 23 NFL HOFers to go with those 13 championships.  The 6th number gets retired next season with Favre meaning that exactly 25% achieved the higher honor (when Favre too gets inducted).  I know that the Packers are possibly the most conservative organization in professional sports as the Yankees have retired 20, the Celtics 21, and the Bears 14 (representing more than 50% of their HOFers.)

I'm all for a two tier approach going forward.

[We R Final Four]

Maybe too many numbers have been retired and maybe we should go toward honoring but the simple matter is nearly every sports team in America retires numbers.   When assigning numbers to new players, it probably should strike someone to say, I wonder if that number has been retired.

THIS!!!!!

It is not that difficult, but for some at MU it seems to be.