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Litehouse

Quote from: Michael Kenyon on April 07, 2015, 11:30:30 AM
A co-worker asked me this morning why no one from Duke formed a handshake line instead of celebrating after the game. My only thought was it probably never happens after a team wins the NC - too much celebrating going on.

Any thoughts?

Carried away with the emotion of winning the national championship on a miraculous comeback after being down 9 a few minutes earlier?  But ultimately, who cares, not our job to defend Duke.  The coaches went through and shook hands, the players were a little distracted.

NickelDimer

Quote from: Michael Kenyon on April 07, 2015, 11:41:30 AM
IIRC the problem after that game was that KY ran off not WI
The ky perspective was they were not going to wat around while wi celebrated
No Finish Line

keefe

Quote from: MUEng92 on April 07, 2015, 09:17:53 AM
fricken iphone.  When I turn it sideways, it fully blocks the message box so I have NO idea what is appearing while typing.  I didn't even notice it. Yes, that I am embarrassed about.

Perhaps there is a WinPhone in your future?


Death on call

WarriorInNYC

Quote from: Michael Kenyon on April 07, 2015, 11:30:30 AM
A co-worker asked me this morning why no one from Duke formed a handshake line instead of celebrating after the game. My only thought was it probably never happens after a team wins the NC - too much celebrating going on.

Any thoughts?

Without going through any of the last championship games, I would guess that this is normal in close games.  The winning team is too caught up in the moment celebrating while the losing team is too heartbroken.  I imagine it would be a bit different if it was a blowout, but this was a back and forth, heartwrenching game.

WarriorInNYC

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2015, 11:49:23 PM

To be fair, I just saw the full quote and he was talking about graduate transfers at least in that sense.

Which is funny, because the UW faithful absolutely LOVE Russell Wilson and like to claim him as their own.  I understand Bo doesn't coach the football team or whatever, but if the UW fans were to run with Bo's sentiments on that, that includes "their" Super Bowl winning QB.


ttheisen

Quote from: MUunderpants on April 06, 2015, 11:02:04 PM
Gumbel calls Bo "Classy" immediately after.  The F?  

I had CC turned on, and his comments were in teal.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Bronson is still bitching on his twitter. It's incredible really.

Oldgym

Quote from: ttheisen on April 07, 2015, 01:18:34 PM
I had CC turned on, and his comments were in teal.

:)  Applause.

Benny B

Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Eldon

Quote from: ttheisen on April 07, 2015, 01:18:34 PM
I had CC turned on, and his comments were in teal.


Very, very nice.  Very nice.


Eldon

I am actually pretty objective when it comes to the Badgers.  In-season I want them to do well to boost our RPI, but postseason I don't really care how they fare one way or the other.  Anyway, I watched the game yesterday, including the Bo interview and I thought it was cheap.  The very first thing out of his mouth is about the refs?  Come on, man....

warriorchick

Have some patience, FFS.

CaptainHavoc

But the Duke players were touching the UW players!  And even bumping into them and stuff!  This would never be tolerated in Madtown!  

Waaaahhh!

Eldon

Quote from: warriorchick on April 07, 2015, 08:28:09 PM
We aren't the only ones who think Bo is a whiny bitch:

http://deadspin.com/bo-ryan-is-the-poor-sport-hes-supposed-to-be-1696240425

"He's congratulating himself on losing virtuously"

That is a phenomenal quote right there!

brewcity77

Quote from: Bleuteaux on April 07, 2015, 09:58:13 AM
Another reason why Nigel Hayes is one of the few Badgers I genuinely like, he refused to place blame on the refs, even when his coach couldn't resist. Classy dude

"We are a team with a lot of pride in what we do and we don't want to blame outside factors or other things," Nigel Hayes said. "I guess we just got a little too much contact on a lot of their drivers. We just maybe did a poor job of sliding our feet."

I'd like to agree, but...

"It definitely hurt," Hayes said. "Getting an and-one, a team starts getting a little more excited, they start picking up their energy. We felt like we had them at that point. There's a point in the game where the lead starts to increase where you either fight back or you just wilt, and that was right at that point when they got the and-one and they continued to keep getting fouls called for them. I think that's what really turned the tide."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2015/04/07/wisconsin-officiating-ncaa-championship-bo-ryan-bronson-koenig/25397385/

ChicosBailBonds


mu-rara

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 07, 2015, 10:06:04 PM
Marquette grad Charles Pierce doing his ever loving sobberfest for Bo.


http://grantland.com/the-triangle/oh-god-you-blue-devil-how-duke-did-away-with-the-badgers/


This article slobbers on Bo, but is much more rounded than the locals.  Potrykus is horrible.

At least Pierce points out that K is a better coach and he has better players.

Spotcheck Billy

Well this article sure riled up the WI fans at work today:

NCAA head of officials on controversial play: 'We never saw what everybody saw at home'

By now you've probably seen the blown call that went against Wisconsin with just under two minutes left in Monday night's national championship.

If you missed it, Wisconsin's Bronson Koenig drove into the lane and attempted a layup in traffic and missed badly. The ball went up in the air and players from both sides fought for the ball, which deflected off a hand and out of bounds. The officials initially ruled that the ball hit off of Koenig, giving the ball back to Duke.

However, a closer, zoomed-in replay showed that the ball clearly glanced off the finger of Duke's Justise Winslow.
Even after a review of nearly two minutes, possession was awarded to Duke in a head-scratching decision.

To explain how the blown call transpired, NCAA head of officiating John Adams appeared on Sirius XM radio and made a pretty surprising admission that they never saw the definitive replay that viewers saw at home.

"All four of our officials were involved in the review. We never saw, on our monitor, what everybody saw at home, if you can believe that," Adams said.

However, after the officials left the monitor and made their ruling, Adams said he saw the zoomed-in view of the ball clearly touching Winslow's finger.

At that point he had the opportunity to quickly make a decision.

"I saw it after they had left the monitor, and actually thought about, is it in my prerogative to get up, run over to the table, buzz the buzzer, and tell them to come back and look?" Adams said. "That's how critical I thought the play was and concluded that this is a job for the guys on the floor. I've never done it before. Why would I do it tonight and perhaps change the balance of the game?"
It's pretty surprising that Adams wouldn't blatantly admit that a mistake had been made and even more surprising that he'd admit that he had the opportunity to correct the mistake. To do so, it seems like he would have had to forgo protocol that had been followed with the replay system for the entire season.

Beyond that, Adams seemed to cast a bit of blame toward the review system itself and said that the incident will be looked at moving forward.

"They'd already left. It will be one of the things we will follow up on," Adams said. "We've been told time and time again that nobody at home will see anything you didn't see. And I will tell you that's not what happened last night. That's not an excuse; that's just laying it out for you."

While it's nice that Adams was so transparent in explaining how it all went down, none of it will make Wisconsin fans feel any better.

After the possession was ultimately given to Duke, freshman guard Tyus Jones – the Final Four's Most Outstanding Player – drilled a three-pointer to increase the Blue Devils' lead from five to eight.

brewcity77

I love how we're led to believe that one out of bounds play when Wisconsin was already trailing by 5 was somehow more of a turning point than the Allen/Jones led run that led to the 14-point swing that gave Duke that lead in the first place.

Coleman

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 08, 2015, 10:51:00 AM
I love how we're led to believe that one out of bounds play when Wisconsin was already trailing by 5 was somehow more of a turning point than the Allen/Jones led run that led to the 14-point swing that gave Duke that lead in the first place.

Right. Wisconsin was down by 5. This was not a tie game.

brewcity77

Quote from: Bleuteaux on April 08, 2015, 11:05:45 AM
Right. Wisconsin was down by 5. This was not a tie game.

Seriously, if you look back at the game, the 10-minute stretch from Hayes' three at 12:00 until this play at 1:53 saw the Badgers get 14 possessions and score 7 points. Over the same stretch, Duke scored 18 points, mostly at the line or on layups because Allen, Winslow, Jones, and Okafor were attacking the basket (though Okafor barely played because of foul trouble in that time).

All the momentum had swung towards Duke, Wisconsin's poor defense and inability to counter Duke's small-ball shift had left them on the ropes, and still people think this was the turning point. By this point, the game had already taken a 180 and driven 20 miles in the opposite direction. Over the course of a 40-minute game this call was, for all intents and purposes, fairly inconsequential.

Coleman

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Quote from: brewcity77 on April 08, 2015, 11:17:39 AM
Seriously, if you look back at the game, the 10-minute stretch from Hayes' three at 12:00 until this play at 1:53 saw the Badgers get 14 possessions and score 7 points. Over the same stretch, Duke scored 18 points, mostly at the line or on layups because Allen, Winslow, Jones, and Okafor were attacking the basket (though Okafor barely played because of foul trouble in that time).

All the momentum had swung towards Duke, Wisconsin's poor defense and inability to counter Duke's small-ball shift had left them on the ropes, and still people think this was the turning point. By this point, the game had already taken a 180 and driven 20 miles in the opposite direction. Over the course of a 40-minute game this call was, for all intents and purposes, fairly inconsequential.

That's a great assessment.

However, it is human nature to search for something external that somehow swung the direction of the game. This call is the closest thing Badger fans could find, even if by this time Duke had already taken over the game and was cruising to a victory. And the media latches onto it because controversy sells.

JWags85

Quote from: Bleuteaux on April 08, 2015, 11:21:16 AM
That's a great assessment.

However, it is human nature to search for something external that somehow swung the direction of the game. This call is the closest thing Badger fans could find, even if by this time Duke had already taken over the game and was cruising to a victory. And the media latches onto it because controversy sells.

Its more the crown on the narrative that Wisconsin got zero calls in the second half and that run by Duke was solely due to Duke's guard's being able to draw spurious fouls on Wisconsin, WHO NEVER FOULS, AT ALL, LOOK AT THEIR SEASON STATS.

Chicago_inferiority_complexes

Quote from: JWags85 on April 08, 2015, 11:35:19 AM
Its more the crown on the narrative that Wisconsin got zero calls in the second half and that run by Duke was solely due to Duke's guard's being able to draw spurious fouls on Wisconsin, WHO NEVER FOULS, AT ALL, LOOK AT THEIR SEASON STATS.

Is that seriously what UW fans are saying? They couldn't possibly be fouling in the NC because they never got called for fouls previously? Pathetic if true, wow.

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