Steve Taylor transferring

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Why? Would you have said the same thing if I told you I expected Dawson, Burton and STJ to transfer this year? Get off your high horse.

High horse? Hardly.

You coming in here and running your mouth about 2/4 returning players leaving, without any knowledge of such, is idiotic.

[D'Lo Brown]

My thought also.

Henry will play the PF position, Luke at the C, with JJJ, Wally, Cheatham at the SF.  

Taylor would be backup at the C, (along with Heldt) and the PF position, splitting time there so his minutes might have seen some decrease.

Taylor missed way too many short "bunnies" this year and maybe someone on the staff told him his playing time might decrease abit with Henry and the new additions (with one more PF coming in?).

As for Cohen, unless he puts on like 20 lbs., he will be at end of bench next year.  Watching him against Nova guarding Pinkston was just sad to watch.  

Best of luck Steve

Sandy Cohen was played out of position a lot near the end of the year when Juan was hurt. He's not a PF. As an SG I don't think he has to worry as much about putting on 20 lbs.

I think he'll be on the bench but he showed some ability this year. Let's see how he develops with the 3 point shot.

[Babybluejeans]

Taylor just never really developed into the player we all thought he'd be when we saw him as a freshman. Didn't seem like he could put it all together even with some nice rebounding performances down the stretch this season. He's better off transferring to a place where his level of play is more valued and we're better off using the elements of CACHE (or finding a transfer) who can produce a bit more consistently.  

[DienerTime34]

High horse? Hardly.

You coming in here and running your mouth about 2/4 returning players leaving, without any knowledge of such, is idiotic.

By "running your mouth", you mean "discussing a possible scenario" right? 

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

By "running your mouth", you mean "discussing a possible scenario" right? 

Then discuss is as a "possible scenario" not just assuming it is going to happen. 

In any event, it is stupid to speculate on transfers. Let the process play out.

[nyg]

Sandy Cohen was played out of position a lot near the end of the year when Juan was hurt. He's not a PF. As an SG I don't think he has to worry as much about putting on 20 lbs.

I think he'll be on the bench but he showed some ability this year. Let's see how he develops with the 3 point shot.

Yes, he was out of position and there are probably 20 opposing players I can name at the SF or SG position that make Sandy look like a junior in high school build wise.  He's not the only one, with JJJ, Duane and Luke also needing to put on some bulk since MU was destroyed on the offensive boards this year.  The new players coming in will help and I believe Wojo has something up his sleeve to address this situation, making this Taylor transfer occur.

Taylor had the build, but not the ability/hands near the basket.  Not assertive with going up with the ball on those short shots and I hope at his next destination, he works on that and has a nice senior year.  

[Groin_pull]

Whatever. Let him miss layups for someone else.

[GGGG]

Ryan has done an incredible job. Later today...his 17th straight tourney invite. Later this month, likely his second Final Four. All with minimal drama and roster turnover. The guy knows what he's doing. I envy their stability.

Whatever. Let him miss layups for someone else.

So in one thread you "envy" UW's stability.

But in this one, you seem not to care about stability.

[Earl Tatum]

Maybe the player from Dominican. Won't divulge his name. Ha!

[chapman]

Thought we really had something the past few games.  He was playing physical, grabbing rebounds.  Just what we would need from him next year, though possibly not what he wanted.  Unfortunate to lose the only current senior on the roster.

And yeah, we needed a forward before today.  I'd take two now.  Worried me when a team that kind of sucked at rebounding loses four of its top five.

[Tugg Speedman]

Where does he go?  He cannot go to Depaul because of BE transfer rules.

Anywhere else and he eats up two years of scholarship for one year of basketball.  Will Illinois or even Iowa State see this "2 for 1" as a deal?  Has he shown enough for you to do this?

I really like Steve but let's not confuse him with Robert Jackson.

Thoughts?

[Marcus92]

Don't assume this is a done deal just yet.

Juan Anderson announced to the world that he was going to transfer to another school. Then he changed his mind and stayed at Marquette.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/juan-anderson-to-transfer-from-marquette-rt9ilts-203100321.html

And back in 2009, MU announced that Maurice Acker wouldn't return for his senior season. Then he ended up returning for his senior season.

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062509aab.html

I for one think Steve Taylor Jr. could be a significant part of next year's team. Wojo had nothing but good things to say about Steve's rebounding during the DePaul postgame show. I hope he stays. If not, Wojo will find a player who wants to be part of the program.

[Tugg Speedman]

Where does he go?  He cannot go to Depaul because of BE transfer rules.

Anywhere else and he eats up two years of scholarship for one year of basketball.  Will Illinois or even Iowa State see this "2 for 1" as a deal?  Has he shown enough for you to do this?

I really like Steve but let's not confuse him with Robert Jackson.

Thoughts?

Don't assume this is a done deal just yet.

Juan Anderson announced to the world that he was going to transfer to another school. Then he changed his mind and stayed at Marquette.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/juan-anderson-to-transfer-from-marquette-rt9ilts-203100321.html

And back in 2009, MU announced that Maurice Acker wouldn't return for his senior season. Then he ended up returning for his senior season.

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062509aab.html

I for one think Steve Taylor Jr. could be a significant part of next year's team. Wojo had nothing but good things to say about Steve's rebounding during the DePaul postgame show. I have he stays. If not, Wojo will find a player who wants to be part of the program.

See my post above ... I think he is going to find the "2 for 1" deal to be problematic when looking for another school.  All rising seniors have this problem unless they are really good.

[Pakuni]

Where does he go?  He cannot go to Depaul because of BE transfer rules.

Anywhere else and he eats up two years of scholarship for one year of basketball.  Will Illinois or even Iowa State see this "2 for 1" as a deal?  Has he shown enough for you to do this?

I really like Steve but let's not confuse him with Robert Jackson.

Thoughts?

MAC, MVC, Horizon.
If he wants to go home (or closer to it), Loyola, Northern Illinois and UIC are options.

[AZWarrior]

During his high school days, was Steve a paint player or more of a perimeter/wing player?  I vaguely recall him as more of a wing.  Offensively at MU, he seemed most effective at the high post, and taking his shots from there.  He rarely looked comfortable, to me, with the ball close to the basket.

[ATWizJr]

He ended up being a better than average rebounder which we'll miss.  Sorry to see him go, especially as a senior. I don't get it.

[Tugg Speedman]

MAC, MVC, Horizon.
If he wants to go home (or closer to it), Loyola, Northern Illinois and UIC are options.

I was afraid you would say that (distance wise Northern is no closer to his house than MU).  He would step that far down?

[D'Lo Brown]

Yes, he was out of position and there are probably 20 opposing players I can name at the SF or SG position that make Sandy look like a junior in high school build wise.  He's not the only one, with JJJ, Duane and Luke also needing to put on some bulk since MU was destroyed on the offensive boards this year.  The new players coming in will help and I believe Wojo has something up his sleeve to address this situation, making this Taylor transfer occur.

Taylor had the build, but not the ability/hands near the basket.  Not assertive with going up with the ball on those short shots and I hope at his next destination, he works on that and has a nice senior year.  

It's the coach's responsibility to play who performs the best, not who looks the best.

Example: Derrick Wilson is built like a tank, he is an unbelievable physical specimen. He is also a bad basketball player with a terrible jump shot and almost no ability to score. If the best players were the ones that looked the best, Derrick would have been in the discussion for player of the year!

I'm not convinced that physical strength is more important than developing things like a jump shot, free throw shot, dribbling, passing. Conditioning is important, but I'd still take a basketball player with great endurance over one with great strength.

[Pakuni]

I was afraid you would say that (distance wise Northern is no closer to his house than MU).  He would step that far down?

DeKalb is probably 30+ miles closer to the South side than Milwaukee, and easier to get to.
I don't see a lot of big programs giving a 5.9 ppg player a two-year scholarship for one year of playing time.

[MattyWarrior]

He played center in HS at Simeon,Jabari Parker played on the wing. Steve took a lot of 3s and also rebounded well. He
was the second best player in Illinois in a weak year, but most people thought he would be a solid player. Did not Develop!

[chapman]

I don't see a lot of big programs giving a 5.9 ppg player a two-year scholarship for one year of playing time.

Yep, this is what seems to make it difficult to find an ideal fit for both parties.  The schools willing to give such a scholarship are likely going to be low majors, and/or have had more than their own fair share of roster turnover, possibly from coaching changes.  Maybe not a dream fit for Steve.  Would think most stable, high-mid or major conference programs wouldn't want the two-for-one deal unless they really feel they're getting a stud or the missing piece for 2016-17.

[hoyasincebirth]

Any chance he'll graduate early and thus take advantage of the graduate transfer rule so not have to sit out a year. He's a junior.Plenty of players have graduated in 3 years.

[Nukem2]

Any chance he'll graduate early and thus take advantage of the graduate transfer rule so not have to sit out a year. He's a junior.Plenty of players have graduated in 3 years.

Nope.  Steve is in very good academic standing, but not close enough to graduate in only 3 years.

[Hilltop]

MAC, MVC, Horizon.
If he wants to go home (or closer to it), Loyola, Northern Illinois and UIC are options.

Loyola is actually probably about 2 years away from a legit chance at winning the Valley and making the tournament.  So a transfer to Loyola would not be a bad move.  They are led by a sophomore from CPS, Milton Doyle, who first went to Kansas then transferred back home.  He is arguably the best player coming back next year in the Valley.  Steve's game would fit pretty well in the valley, too.

[4everwarriors]

Next man up, hey?