McKay

[JWags85]

Jameel McKay is an absolute beast for ISU.  I wish the best for Burton, but seeing him explode into a stud like McKay has would be brutal.  Love our program's direction, but tough to see former players killing it.

[forgetful]

The big question for Burton is whether he will be willing to play defense, play 100% on both ends of the court and play within the confines of an offense.

If he does, he will be a beast.  If he doesn't, he may have flashy stats, but he won't improve his team.

Often, moving to a different place and hearing the same thing has a way to finally let it sink in, so hopefully it does for him.

[Dawson Rental]

The big question for Burton is whether he will be willing to play defense, play 100% on both ends of the court and play within the confines of an offense.

If he does, he will be a beast.  If he doesn't, he may have flashy stats, but he won't improve his team.

Often, moving to a different place and hearing the same thing has a way to finally let it sink in, so hopefully it does for him.

See: Maymon, Jeronnie

[jesmu84]

Yea, it sucks. But I can kind of understand it. Why would he have wanted to stay at MU, redshirt and play in the post? When he could just as easily go to ISU, redshirt and play in the post?

[warriorchick]

Woulda, coulda, shoulda....

Let's move on.

[HutchwasClutch]

Jameel McKay is an absolute beast for ISU.  I wish the best for Burton, but seeing him explode into a stud like McKay has would be brutal.  Love our program's direction, but tough to see former players killing it.

Yeah, he's very good.  Yeah, watching him play you can't help but wish he would have stayed.

It was also HIS man that he let slip under the basket for what should have been a tying basket to send tonight's game with OU to overtime (the guy blew the layup).  Not sure what he was thinking, OU was only down two, and he was drifting out ready to cover a guy spotted up beyond the arc.  

[rocky_warrior]

Burton will probably be a beast.  But I can't blame Wojo for his departure.  Some think we 'lost' him, but more than likely there was no way we could 'keep' him. Understandably, his head was leading him away from Marquette.

[79Warrior]

Burton will probably be a beast.  But I can't blame Wojo for his departure.  Some think we 'lost' him, but more than likely there was no way we could 'keep' him. Understandably, his head was leading him away from Marquette.

Burton is gone, who cares. He did not want to be in Wojo's system.

[HutchwasClutch]

Burton is gone, who cares. He did not want to be in Wojo's system.

Agree, and that's because he exuded selfishness on the court, both ends.

[rocky_warrior]

Burton is gone, who cares. He did not want to be in Wojo's system.

If you're asking.  I do care.  And it didn't have much to do with Wojo's 'system'.

[ecompt]

Burton is gone, who cares. He did not want to be in Wojo's system.

I got the impression Denote wanted to have the ball in his hands and shoot 25 times a game while playing zero defense.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Yea, it sucks. But I can kind of understand it. Why would he have wanted to stay at MU, redshirt and play in the post? When he could just as easily go to ISU, redshirt and play in the post?

He wouldn't have red shirted for MU last year, but your point still sort of stands.

[Jay Bee]

Burton was a huge loss. I hope he does extremely well at ISU.

[willie warrior]

Jameel McKay is an absolute beast for ISU.  I wish the best for Burton, but seeing him explode into a stud like McKay has would be brutal.  Love our program's direction, but tough to see former players killing it.

Thank you phony douche cowboy Buzzster.

[79Warrior]

If you're asking.  I do care.  And it didn't have much to do with Wojo's 'system'.

Well, the old girlfriend is not coming back, so thinking about what could have been is wasted energy. Move on.

[willie warrior]

The big question for Burton is whether he will be willing to play defense, play 100% on both ends of the court and play within the confines of an offense.

If he does, he will be a beast.  If he doesn't, he may have flashy stats, but he won't improve his team.

Often, moving to a different place and hearing the same thing has a way to finally let it sink in, so hopefully it does for him.

He already does. have you been watching? Thanks to the Buzzard for losing this guy.

[MU82]

Thinking about McKay really is wasted energy.

To keep him, Buzz probably had two options: Promise him he would have played the 3, which would have been a lie and eventually gotten everybody pissed at Buzz for lying; not let Otule come back for another season, and I think Otule earned that invitation.

McKay, like Maymon, didn't want to hear the truth about where he was best suited.So he bolted and ended up in the exact same position. Good player ... we coulda used him ... but good riddance.

[bilsu]

Burton will probably be a beast.  But I can't blame Wojo for his departure.  Some think we 'lost' him, but more than likely there was no way we could 'keep' him. Understandably, his head was leading him away from Marquette.

Starting Cohen over Burton at start of season probably has a lot to do with why Burton left. Nothing like kicking a kid when he is down with the passing of his mother. To me both Buzz and Wojo unintentionally pushed out McKay and Burton by being inflexible and not looking at the big picture. In my opinion both coaches are inflexible.

[#UnleashSean]

... we coulda used him ... but good riddance.

Can't be used together. Rofl.

[The Equalizer]

Thinking about McKay really is wasted energy.

To keep him, Buzz probably had two options: Promise him he would have played the 3, which would have been a lie and eventually gotten everybody pissed at Buzz for lying; not let Otule come back for another season, and I think Otule earned that invitation.

McKay, like Maymon, didn't want to hear the truth about where he was best suited.So he bolted and ended up in the exact same position. Good player ... we coulda used him ... but good riddance.

McKay left well after the start of the academic year, which meant McKay and Otule both had scholarships. This wasn't an issue of Buzz having to choose between keeping McKay or not letting Otule come back.  Both were on the team.

I suspect (especially after seeing McKay play this year) McKay was easily beating Otule in early practice yet Buzz told him that he was going to be loyal to Otule no matter how hard McKay practiced.

[MuMark]

Starting Cohen over Burton at start of season probably has a lot to do with why Burton left. Nothing like kicking a kid when he is down with the passing of his mother. To me both Buzz and Wojo unintentionally pushed out McKay and Burton by being inflexible and not looking at the big picture. In my opinion both coaches are inflexible.

Or they were both sending a message that Burton for one reason or another didn't care to hear....

Carlino, Juan and Luke disagree with your opinion about Wojo.....

Duane didn't start the first game either.....Eventually he earned his way into the starting lineup and had a great rookie season....

[brewcity77]

Starting Cohen over Burton at start of season probably has a lot to do with why Burton left. Nothing like kicking a kid when he is down with the passing of his mother. To me both Buzz and Wojo unintentionally pushed out McKay and Burton by being inflexible and not looking at the big picture. In my opinion both coaches are inflexible.

I won't pretend to know all the reasons Burton left. Clearly McKay was a loss and Burton could become one as well. But I do fully believe that this year especially, the most important thing is building the future of the program. If, for whatever reason, Burton didn't want to be a part of that, Marquette is better off moving on. We watched this year when Jajuan struggled and how well he responded to being challenged by the coaching staff. That will benefit us going forward, even if Jajuan would elect to transfer now, because it sends the message to current players and recruits about hard work and what the staff expects.

No one player is bigger than the program. No one player will make or break the future of Marquette. My hope is that in 5 years, Wojo has Marquette on firmer footing than at any point of the last 30 years. For that to happen, it won't be about any one player (not even Ellenson) it will be about a strong foundation and a full team that can play at the highest level and buy in to the system. If that means we miss out on a good or even great player for a couple years of his career, so be it.

In the past decade since the transfers really started getting crazy, McKay is the first player that I think the fanbase would really regret losing. Dameon Mason might have been great, but went on to do very little. Reggie Smith, Jamail Jones, Erik Williams, etc for the most part did very little after leaving. Honestly, I'm okay with coaches being inflexible as long as they can bring in players that will work within their system.

When Buzz took over, he anticipated 1-2 transfers per year because of his inflexibility. I'm okay with that. When Wojo took over, while he kept the team together, it would have been a bit naive to believe all of the players he started with would end their careers here. I'm far more concerned with the future and bringing in guys that buy into his system than trying to bend to the ones that were from another regime and won't be around as long.

[willie warrior]

McKay left well after the start of the academic year, which meant McKay and Otule both had scholarships. This wasn't an issue of Buzz having to choose between keeping McKay or not letting Otule come back.  Both were on the team.

I suspect (especially after seeing McKay play this year) McKay was easily beating Otule in early practice yet Buzz told him that he was going to be loyal to Otule no matter how hard McKay practiced.

If your suspicion is right, and it makes sense, because that was Buzz's MO, his way or the highway-- McKay, Duane, Otule, Derrick, etc.) it was just another nail for the phony cowboy--no wonder MU administration showed him the ass slamming door.

[willie warrior]

I won't pretend to know all the reasons Burton left. Clearly McKay was a loss and Burton could become one as well. But I do fully believe that this year especially, the most important thing is building the future of the program. If, for whatever reason, Burton didn't want to be a part of that, Marquette is better off moving on. We watched this year when Jajuan struggled and how well he responded to being challenged by the coaching staff. That will benefit us going forward, even if Jajuan would elect to transfer now, because it sends the message to current players and recruits about hard work and what the staff expects.

No one player is bigger than the program. No one player will make or break the future of Marquette. My hope is that in 5 years, Wojo has Marquette on firmer footing than at any point of the last 30 years. For that to happen, it won't be about any one player (not even Ellenson) it will be about a strong foundation and a full team that can play at the highest level and buy in to the system. If that means we miss out on a good or even great player for a couple years of his career, so be it.

In the past decade since the transfers really started getting crazy, McKay is the first player that I think the fanbase would really regret losing. Dameon Mason might have been great, but went on to do very little. Reggie Smith, Jamail Jones, Erik Williams, etc for the most part did very little after leaving. Honestly, I'm okay with coaches being inflexible as long as they can bring in players that will work within their system.

When Buzz took over, he anticipated 1-2 transfers per year because of his inflexibility. I'm okay with that. When Wojo took over, while he kept the team together, it would have been a bit naive to believe all of the players he started with would end their careers here. I'm far more concerned with the future and bringing in guys that buy into his system than trying to bend to the ones that were from another regime and won't be around as long.

So, you are OK with what? 1-2 transfers per year or inflexibility? Neither are good traits for a college coach, IMO. I guess it is just the "In Buzz we trust" jones, ai'na.

[4everwarriors]

Next man up, ai na?