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Next up: A long offseason

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Date/Time: Oct 4, 2025
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Schedule for 2024-25
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Which player do you feel will be our biggest surprise player?  Defined as the player who most exceeds expectations for them given their historical MU career to this point.

Steve Taylor
40 (25.2%)
Duane Wilson
32 (20.1%)
Juan Anderson
14 (8.8%)
John Dawson
4 (2.5%)
Derrick Wilson
27 (17%)
JJJ
42 (26.4%)

Total Members Voted: 159

Voting closed: October 02, 2014, 10:35:02 PM

NersEllenson

Thought this would be an interesting topic to debate.  I left out Carlino and Burton - because I think everyone expects pretty good performance out of them. Left Cohen and Fischer out due to no MU experience to go off - though the same can be said about Duane Wilson - he has been in the program now for over a year...and entered the program with pretty high expectations.

I'm really excited to see how this year plays out.  Think actually all of the guys in this poll have the ability to exceed general expectations we all might have for them...yet which guy will exceed expectations the most?


"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

Galway Eagle

put derrick wilson just because I knew itd tick you off lol
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jesmu84

Let's see.. how can we spin this...

If people pick Derrick, it's obviously because everyone acknowledges that he was terrible and he can't get any worse.
If no one picks Derrick, it's obviously because everyone knows he sucks and will be the player he always has been.

Anti-Dentite

You know the difference between a dentist and a sadist, don't you? Newer magazines.

77ncaachamps

SS Marquette

ChitownSpaceForRent

I don't know this Steve guy. Did you perhaps mean Teve? Cause Teve is gonna have a monster year.

GB Warrior

Quote from: ChitownEllenson on September 23, 2014, 12:22:11 AM
I don't know this Steve guy. Did you perhaps mean Teve? Cause Teve is gonna have a monster year.

Dark horse for meme of the year.

NersEllenson

I think it's going to be Steve Teve Taylor.  He'll have a lot of minute opportunity, and also think he's got a chip on his shoulder from last season's mindf$ck Buzz gave him. 

Think Steve could be a 10ppg and 8rpg kind of player this year.

Looks like a lot are either sleeping on Dawson, or already expect good things from him.  I couldn't vote for JD, as I expect he'll have a nice year - so it wouldn't come as a surprise.

I look forward to seeing what JJJ can do with good minute opportunity as well.  Lots of talent there.

I also expect Juan and Derrick to be better than they were last year - with both being used in roles that best fit what they bring to the table:  Hustle, energy, hard nosed players off the bench come conference play.
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

TAMU, Knower of Ball

I trust BigDaddy when he says "Steve (Teve) is about to paint his masterpiece." I also think JJJ has the talent to surprise a lot of people.

Personally, I hope all of the surprise me (in a good way)
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GGGG

STJ.  He showed flashes as a freshman and I think was hurting for a good portion of last year.  He will get plenty of playing time to prove himself this year.

I also think Juan is going to impress simply because expectations are low.  I don't expect him to be a huge statistics guy, but I think could fill the Trent Lockett role on this team.  Experienced senior, good attitude, who will also get the playing time.

CTWarrior

STJ is the guy I have the highest hopes for compared to his MU accomplishments, so I answered him.  I just have the feeling that he is going to be really good, but I don't have a lot to back that up with.
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Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

MU82

Quote from: NersEllenson on September 23, 2014, 07:57:37 AM

Looks like a lot are either sleeping on Dawson, or already expect good things from him.  I couldn't vote for JD, as I expect he'll have a nice year - so it wouldn't come as a surprise.


Wait ... you like Dawson? I never knew that!
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bilsu

I voted with the idea that it was the biggest surpise to us collectively. I am sure there are several people here who think Taylor, JJJ, Dawson or Anderson are going to have a big step up in their games or that Duane will have a very good year. There are very few here that even think Derrick will even see significant playing time. Therefore the answer has to be Derrick, if his game improves.

WarriorInNYC

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on September 23, 2014, 08:22:23 AM
STJ.  He showed flashes as a freshman and I think was hurting for a good portion of last year.  He will get plenty of playing time to prove himself this year.

I also think Juan is going to impress simply because expectations are low.  I don't expect him to be a huge statistics guy, but I think could fill the Trent Lockett role on this team.  Experienced senior, good attitude, who will also get the playing time.

Agreed.  I voted Juan for the exact reasons you list above.  Due to the lack of size we will have, he will get some good minutes, and I just think he is ready to become a steady contributor.  Not going to fill up the stat sheet, but be solid.

I didn't vote Steve mainly because I think there is a general consensus that he will be a high contributor.  I would not be surprised to see him be a high performer this year.

Skatastrophy

I believe that Duane Wilson is about to set the world on fire.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: NersEllenson on September 23, 2014, 07:57:37 AM
I think it's going to be Steve Teve Taylor.  He'll have a lot of minute opportunity, and also think he's got a chip on his shoulder from last season's mindf$ck Buzz gave him. 

Think Steve could be a 10ppg and 8rpg kind of player this year.

Looks like a lot are either sleeping on Dawson, or already expect good things from him.  I couldn't vote for JD, as I expect he'll have a nice year - so it wouldn't come as a surprise.

I look forward to seeing what JJJ can do with good minute opportunity as well.  Lots of talent there.

I also expect Juan and Derrick to be better than they were last year - with both being used in roles that best fit what they bring to the table:  Hustle, energy, hard nosed players off the bench come conference play.


Django Teve Unchained!

Silkk the Shaka

#16
I voted Juan because no one expects anything out of him, but there were a couple games against cupcakes last year where it looked like things were finally clicking for him. He was all over the court making an impact everywhere. Then he came down weird on his ankle in one of those games and he didn't look the same after. Combine that with the ususal senior performance bump and I think he'll outperform his relatively low expectations more than anyone else.

EDITED TO CLARIFY:

I expect big things out of Duane, JJJ, Steve, and Dawson this year. My expectations are low/muted for Juan and Derrick, so to surprise on the upside, all Juan has to do is be a solid 15 minute role player. I think he can achieve that if healthy.

willie warrior

Quote from: Skatastrophy on September 23, 2014, 09:29:54 AM
I believe that Duane Wilson is about to set the world on fire.
This sort of reminds me about the rumors a year ago of the MU recruit who allegedly set some girl's hair on fire. Wow!
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Tums Festival

I voted Triple J merely because we really haven't heard much about him this off season. There are posts here from time to time saying one player or another has looked good in workouts or that someone has taken 20,000 shots over the summer, but there hasn't really been much of anything said about Triple J.
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ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: Heavy Ellenson Gear on September 23, 2014, 10:19:29 AM
I voted Triple J merely because we really haven't heard much about him this off season. There are posts here from time to time saying one player or another has looked good in workouts or that someone has taken 20,000 shots over the summer, but there hasn't really been much of anything said about Triple J.

J cubed.

MU82

Luke ... because if he is a surprise player, he will be the biggest on the roster!
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

OhioGoldenEagle

Or similar to last season, everyone will underachieve (more or less) and we will struggle to break 0.500. 

Galway Eagle

Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

THRILLHO

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on September 23, 2014, 09:53:11 AM
I voted Juan because no one expects anything out of him, but there were a couple games against cupcakes last year where it looked like things were finally clicking for him. He was all over the court making an impact everywhere. Then he came down weird on his ankle in one of those games and he didn't look the same after. Combine that with the ususal senior performance bump and I think he'll outperform his relatively low expectations more than anyone else.

EDITED TO CLARIFY:

I expect big things out of Duane, JJJ, Steve, and Dawson this year. My expectations are low/muted for Juan and Derrick, so to surprise on the upside, all Juan has to do is be a solid 15 minute role player. I think he can achieve that if healthy.

I also voted Juan for similar reasons. He's a guy that I think could benefit from the skills-focused offseason work. I think his confidence in his outside shot gradually eroded under Buzz to the extent that he almost looked afraid to shoot last year. Being able to shoot at range at his height is an advantage, and could open up some space, allowing him to drive and pass, which he was expected to be able to do coming out of high school.

Dawson Rental

#24
Taylor or JJJ?  Taylor or JJJ?  I overcame my first inclination for Steve, and went with JJJ.  So much talent, so little used last year.  (Both of them, really).

#3?  Hologram Al who will show up for the Villanova game to shut down Ryan Arcidiacono, just like he used to shut down Bob Cousy!

"He's a hologram Ryan, just dribble through him!"  Says an exasperated Jay Wright.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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