Author Topic: For the Martin backers, if UT doesn't make the play-in game..... (Read 18811 times)

ChicosBailBonds · « **on:** March 31, 2014, 10:40:08 AM »

For the Martin backers, if UT doesn't make the play-in game.....you still supporting him for the coach?

How much of your support is based on the three games won in the NCAA tournament?

Curious more than anything

Coleman · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:42:07 AM »

Thank you.

Questions that needed to be asked.

WadeATKBurton · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:43:58 AM »

I was a Cuonzo fan waaaay before this tournament. Look, the guy can coach, his players play hard for him and he has the ability to recruit 5 STAR players, unlike Brent.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:44:39 AM »

Quote from: atk13thst on March 31, 2014, 10:43:58 AM

I was a Cuonzo fan waaaay before this tournament. Look, the guy can coach, his players play hard for him and he has the ability to recruit 5 STAR players, unlike Brent.

Are you Mike Broeker?

Does CM have a bevy of 5 star recruits he has landed?

LAZER · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:44:58 AM »

For me it all depends. Is it Martin vs Howland? Martin vs Wojo? Martin vs Wardle? Martin vs Hopkins?

Tugg Speedman · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:45:36 AM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 31, 2014, 10:40:08 AM

For the Martin backers, if UT doesn't make the play-in game.....you still supporting him for the coach?

How much of your support is based on the three games won in the NCAA tournament?

Curious more than anything

I also asked, if a Duke did not lay an egg, against Mercer, then blew out Tenn in the next round, are we having this discussion?

As I titled the other thread, "Mercer beats Duke, we lose?"

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:45:53 AM »

Quote from: LAZER on March 31, 2014, 10:44:58 AM

For me it all depends. Is it Martin vs Howland? Martin vs Wojo? Martin vs Wardle? Martin vs Hopkins?

Take those names out of the equation for a second, if UT doesn't get into the play-in game would you support him as the next coach?

WadeATKBurton · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:46:38 AM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 31, 2014, 10:44:39 AM

Are you Mike Broeker?

Does CM have a bevy of 5 star recruits he has landed?

Man, hes an upgrade over Brent!

Clam Crowder · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:48:30 AM »

If Davidson doesn't screw up a simple inbounds play last year is Buzz' name half as attractive?

It is College Basketball...It's called March Madness.

I like Cuonzo. I think he is going to be a great hire if it is him.

Who the hell was Crean before we hired him, who the hell was Buzz?

Trust the guys who have made these decisions before.

Pakuni · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:49:22 AM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 31, 2014, 10:44:39 AM

Are you Mike Broeker?

Does CM have a bevy of 5 star recruits he has landed?

Actually, a couple of five-star guys: Robert Hubbs and Jarnell Stokes.
Two in three years is better than Buzz (one in six) and Crean (zero in nine) did here.

Anyhow, if we're asking the play-in question of Martin (which is fair) we probably should have done it as well for Shaka.

LAZER · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:50:39 AM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 31, 2014, 10:45:53 AM

Take those names out of the equation for a second, if UT doesn't get into the play-in game would you support him as the next coach?

Probably not.

But I see him as MU's second best option at this point.

CAGASS24 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:50:51 AM »

And if Dayton isn't the last A10 at large....

Agree that things need to be kept in perspective - I really would like to see what Howland could do here - if he fits, he fits.... not sounding like it though - its possible more damage could be done to the program trying to fit a round peg into a square hole then a smaller square peg into a larger square hole - if that makes any sense.

Is an assistant from a wildly successful program safer than a head coach with some but not resounding success?

What about a head coach with a history of success but not a ton lately, perhaps suggesting a change in scenery in necessary (Dixon, Brey)

In the end I just hope we get someone that (A) really wants to be at MU; (B) has a clear vision of what the program was, is, and can be, and (C) will work like hell to implement it.

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:51:45 AM »

I'm a little more concerned if he had never made the tournament. But I trust our admin to make the right decision.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:52:11 AM »

Quote from: atk13thst on March 31, 2014, 10:46:38 AM

Man, hes an upgrade over Brent!

As a man, yes. As a coach, I don't know.

Convince me? Why is he?

WadeATKBurton · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:52:30 AM »

I cant wait to read this board once Cuonzo solidify himself as the "great" coach for Marquette like yall THOUGHT Brent was. You guys are sleeping on Cuonzo!

Tugg Speedman · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:54:22 AM »

Quote from: atk13thst on March 31, 2014, 10:52:30 AM

I cant wait to read this board once Cuonzo solidify himself as the "great" coach for Marquette like yall THOUGHT Brent was. You guys are sleeping on Cuonzo!

I have no opinion about Martin either way ... But I'm glad someone is arguing for him. Please continue to make his case.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:54:32 AM »

Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 31, 2014, 10:48:30 AM

If Davidson doesn't screw up a simple inbounds play last year is Buzz' name half as attractive?

It is College Basketball...It's called March Madness.

I like Cuonzo. I think he is going to be a great hire if it is him.

Who the hell was Crean before we hired him, who the hell was Buzz?

Trust the guys who have made these decisions before.

Crean was the lead recruiter for a national championship team and was considered one of the top 2 assistants in the country at the time. Considering where we were in 1999, an assistant is what we needed. Buzz....beats me what he was or why we hired him.

I do trust the guys, I worked for the main guy for 5 years. I'm just asking a straight forward question, if UT doesn't make the NCAA play-in game, would your support be the same.

More out of curiosity.

WadeATKBurton · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:56:29 AM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 31, 2014, 10:52:11 AM

As a man, yes. As a coach, I don't know.

Convince me? Why is he?

For one, he will start his BEST five players. He is able to recruit 5 star players and hes a better x's and o's coach.

Silkk the Shaka · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:56:52 AM »

You could also say would he have missed the tournament last year if Maymon hadn't sat out the entire season injured?

I had Tennessee in the E8 before they played Iowa and before Buzz left & Cuonzo's name surfaced as a candidate here. They came within a possession of proving me right. The team was criminally underseeded. They had some early hiccups, but turned it on down the stretch, the way I want a team to look going into the tournament. Started off ranked #33 by KenPom, spent a majority of conference season ~25 in those rankings, then from March 1 through selection Sunday played in such a manner that the ranking went from 25 to 12. That's a sign of a good coach to me. The committee would have been clueless to leave them out.

Windyplayer · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:57:06 AM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 31, 2014, 10:40:08 AM

For the Martin backers, if UT doesn't make the play-in game.....you still supporting him for the coach?

How much of your support is based on the three games won in the NCAA tournament?

Curious more than anything

Obviously, it plays a role. For me, considering his relative youth as a HC, it could indicate that he had a breakthrough especially considering the adversity he went through at UT, and there was a mountain of it. Every coach finds their way onto the map with these kinds of performances. Martin is no different, he should be getting a little more attention for how far he went under those circumstances.

MUDPT · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:57:19 AM »

I'm not sure I'm a Martin backer, but I'll answer. Yes. The committee is very flawed in their selection process. Tenn. lost to A&M twice and those two games should count against them, but they also have a lot of good wins. They beat X by 15 on a neutral court, they beat fellow bubble team LSU by 18 on their court, they beat other fellow team Mizzou by 27 at home and they beat Virginia by 35 at home.

Litehouse · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:57:34 AM »

Quote from: atk13thst on March 31, 2014, 10:52:30 AM

I cant wait to read this board once Cuonzo solidify himself as the "great" coach for Marquette like yall THOUGHT Brent was. You guys are sleeping on Cuonzo!

Seriously though, what's your connection to Cuonzo? You show up last week, and have been posting non-stop about Cuonzo ever since. I'm starting to think you actually are Broeker drumming up support for him, or Cuonzo's agent.

MuMark · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:57:53 AM »

If Enfield doesn’t make the sweet 16 does he get the USC job? If Pearl doesn’t make the sweet 16 does he get the UT job?

If Groce doesn’t make the sweet 16 does he get the Illinois job?

I think you have to look at everything…….

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #23 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:59:30 AM »

Quote from: MUDPT on March 31, 2014, 10:57:19 AM

I'm not sure I'm a Martin backer, but I'll answer. Yes. The committee is very flawed in their selection process. Tenn. lost to A&M twice and those two games should count against them, but they also have a lot of good wins. They beat X by 15 on a neutral court, they beat fellow bubble team LSU by 18 on their court, they beat other fellow team Mizzou by 27 at home and they beat Virginia by 35 at home.

Hey, I resent tha...oh nevermind. TAMU sucks at basketball

WadeATKBurton · « **Reply #24 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:59:47 AM »

Quote from: Heisenberg on March 31, 2014, 10:54:22 AM

I have no opinion about Martin either way ... But I'm glad someone is arguing for him. Please continue to make his case.

You are one of the main ones saying "HELL NO" to Martin and HELL YES to HOWLAND.

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