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MuggsyB

Congrats to Penn St. Women's 🏐. 

Billy Hoyle

MU takes a hit in the Portal losing Molly Berezowitz to Kentucky.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 06, 2025, 09:47:52 AMMU takes a hit in the Portal losing Molly Berezowitz to Kentucky.
$EC.  >:(

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 06, 2025, 09:59:05 AM$EC.  >:(

SEC, ACC, Big Ten. A BE coach at the VB championships told me the entire Louisville team was getting $100k in NIL from the collective. Nebraska has a collective just for VB that has $5 million to distribute. There's a reason we see the same teams making title runs every year. That MU made the round of 16 and Creighton the round of 8 (and should have beaten PSU) by knocking off high major programs is ridiculously impressive.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

StillAWarrior

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 06, 2025, 10:20:17 AMSEC, ACC, Big Ten. A BE coach at the VB championships told me the entire Louisville team was getting $100k in NIL from the collective. Nebraska has a collective just for VB that has $5 million to distribute. There's a reason we see the same teams making title runs every year. That MU made the round of 16 and Creighton the round of 8 (and should have beaten PSU) by knocking off high major programs is ridiculously impressive.

In fairness, there wasn't a lot of variety in the VB FF prior to NIL.

Quote from: StillAWarrior on December 17, 2018, 08:40:02 AMThis is so, so true.  I have to laugh because the Georgetown board has a volleyball section, and there was a poster last year that was complaining that Georgetown wasn't competing for national championships in volleyball.  While I agree that Georgetown needs to get better, competing for national championships is just an absurd goal (competing for a spot in the Big East tourney was a nice start).  There are about a half-dozen teams that are legitimately competing for national championships in volleyball.  And, as you said, the gap between them and the next level of teams is enormous.  Creighton and Marquette were outstanding teams this year and undeniably head and shoulders above the rest of the conference.  But it would be an absolutely earth-shattering "Douglas beats Tyson" upset if they won the title.  Probably even bigger than that.

I was really disappointed when Stanford and Nebraska won in the semis because I would have really liked to see some new blood.  And even BYU and Illinois -- either of which would have been seen as a real surprise -- are among a group that has been hanging around the top for years.  I just took a look at the last 10 final fours and it's amazing how few teams have been involved:

  • Only 18 teams have played in the FF:  Tex (7); Penn St. (6); Stanford (4); Nebraska (4); Minnesota (3); BYU (2); Illinois (2); USC (2); Florida (1); Kansas (1); Wisconsin (1); Washington (1); Oregon (1); Michigan (1); UCLA (1); FSU (1); Cal (1); Hawaii (1).
  • Only 11 teams have played in the championship match:  Penn State (4); Texas (4); Nebraska (3); Stanford (2); Florida (1); BYU (1); Wisconsin (1); Oregon (1); UCLA (1); Illinois (1) and Cal (1).
  • Ony 5 teams have won titles:  Penn State (4); Stanford (2); Nebraska (2); Texas (1) and UCLA (1).

So, even this year's "underdogs" in the Final Four (Illinois and BYU) are among the truly elite with both having played in the championship match and multiple final fours in the past decade.

I would love to see someone -- anyone -- from a conference other than the BIG or PAC (and Texas) win a title.  But, it will be an extraordinary upset when it happens.  It looked like maybe BYU had a shot this year, but they had some bad luck down the stretch with injuries.


In the six years since that post, we've had the following in the FF:

  • Wisconsin - 4 (2019, 2020, 2021, 2023)
  • Pittsburgh - 4 (2021, 2022, 2023, 2024)
  • Texas - 3 (2020, 2022, 2023)
  • Nebraska - 3 (2021, 2023, 2024)
  • Louisville - 3 (2021, 2022, 2024
  • Stanford - 1 (2019)
  • Minnesota - 1 (2019)
  • Penn State - 1 (2024)
  • Washington - 1 (2020)
  • Kentucky - 1(2020)
  • Baylor - 1 (2019)
  • San Diego - 1 (2022)


Obviously, Louisville and Pittsburgh are new at the top since NIL, but there are a lot of pre-NIL familiar faces remaining.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 06, 2025, 12:53:24 PMIn fairness, there wasn't a lot of variety in the VB FF prior to NIL.

In the six years since that post, we've had the following in the FF:

  • Wisconsin - 4 (2019, 2020, 2021, 2023)
  • Pittsburgh - 4 (2021, 2022, 2023, 2024)
  • Texas - 3 (2020, 2022, 2023)
  • Nebraska - 3 (2021, 2023, 2024)
  • Louisville - 3 (2021, 2022, 2024
  • Stanford - 1 (2019)
  • Minnesota - 1 (2019)
  • Penn State - 1 (2024)
  • Washington - 1 (2020)
  • Kentucky - 1(2020)
  • Baylor - 1 (2019)
  • San Diego - 1 (2022)


Obviously, Louisville and Pittsburgh are new at the top since NIL, but there are a lot of pre-NIL familiar faces remaining.

I mentioned that in a post earlier in this thread. Only 12 schools have won titles overall and there have been only four first time champs since 1992 (three of those only winning once - Washington, Kentucky - in the COVID year, and Bucky).

When I was at the MU/Purdue tourney game last year I noticed they'd made the round of 16 18 times since 2004 (and no conference titles in that time) but have only advanced to the regional finals twice. The hill to climb in VB is massive. Men's college hockey is more competitive - we've seen programs like Union, Providence, UMass, Yale, and Quinnipiac win titles in the past few years
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 06, 2025, 01:09:45 PMI mentioned that in a post earlier in this thread. Only 12 schools have won titles overall and there have been only four first time champs since 1992 (three of those only winning once - Washington, Kentucky - in the COVID year, and Bucky).

When I was at the MU/Purdue tourney game last year I noticed they'd made the round of 16 18 times since 2004 (and no conference titles in that time) but have only advanced to the regional finals twice. The hill to climb in VB is massive. Men's college hockey is more competitive - we've seen programs like Union, Providence, UMass, Yale, and Quinnipiac win titles in the past few years

And QU has been to the Frozen 4, 3 times.

Billy Hoyle

#1332
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on January 06, 2025, 01:13:24 PMAnd QU has been to the Frozen 4, 3 times.

I was glad to see them finally get over the hump and win it all in 2023 after two previous finals losses (including the first one to Yale).

The craziest champ is Union. A school of 2k students that's D3 in everything else winning the D1 title. They've only been back to the tourney once since.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

JWags85

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 06, 2025, 02:07:04 PMI was glad to see them finally get over the hump and win it all in 2023 after two previous finals losses (including the first one to Yale).

The craziest champ is Union. A school of 2k students that's D3 in everything else winning the D1 title. They've only been back to the tourney once since.

College hockey is crazy like that.  You obviously have the blue bloods like BC, BU, ND, Denver, and Minnesota, but then the contenders rise and fall really quick.  Its truly wild.  Union obivously, but Providence also had been to like 2 tourneys in like 25 years and then won a title in 2015 out of nowhere.  Made another FF the year before COVID, and then have stunk.  I went to Miami U and we were a perenial top 5 team when I was there.  Made 2 FFs in 3 years in the late 00s/10s, including a runner up, and then haven't made a tourney in almost a decade.  Hell, MSU won a title in 07 and then only made 1 other tourney since then until this past season.

Its been awhile, but Lake Superior State is even tinier than Union, like 1500 kids, and they were an absolute monster in the early 90s.  Ferris State has had the same coach for 30+ years, has a lifetime losing record, only made 2-3 tournaments ever...but randomly made a championship game and lost to BC like 7-8 years ago.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Diverging from hockey in Volleyball thread, a shout out to my younger daughter's college, UVM for winning the NCAA Soccer championship.  First time any school from America East won anything.

WhiteTrash

MARQUETTE HOCKEY. I'm in!

Marquette Fan

John Cook retiring at Nebraska and Nebraska quickly announced that they hired Louisville Coach and former Nebraska player Dani Busboom Kelly as his replacement - https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/john-cook-retires-at-nebraska-dani-busboom-kelly-takes-over/ar-AA1y5FIm?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=db15c8768b8841a5b54405f50d4e1acb&ei=14

wadesworld

Theis gets the Florida job. He's definitely proven to be a good coach, but not sure he's that level. Though if he keeps their roster together he should have success this year. Good move for him, think the team takes a step back this year.

The Sultan

Quote from: wadesworld on February 17, 2025, 06:49:47 PMTheis gets the Florida job. He's definitely proven to be a good coach, but not sure he's that level. Though if he keeps their roster together he should have success this year. Good move for him, think the team takes a step back this year.

He coached there. His wife played there. Pre-ordained?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: The Sultan on February 17, 2025, 06:57:07 PMHe coached there. His wife played there. Pre-ordained?

Interesting. Honestly didn't even know either of those things. Wonder if Wise had a say in the hire. The Florida players were advocating for their assistant to get the job.

WhiteTrash

So where does MU go from here?

wadesworld

Quote from: WhiteTrash on February 17, 2025, 07:21:13 PMSo where does MU go from here?

We'll see. Probably a mid major coach with Wisconsin ties.

wadesworld

#1342
It'd be kind of funny if MU went with Dave Boos, the Florida assistant that Theis got the job over. He is from Waukesha and played club volleyball at UW Oshkosh. The Florida team publicly went to bat for Boos. Would be a real shame if Kennedy Martin was playing at Marquette next year. 😂

Galway Eagle

Damn. Hope they can make another great hire. I've really enjoyed having another MU sport to be invested in these past few years
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

cheebs09

Is this how we bring Wardle home and make him coach in waiting?

wadesworld

Sounds like Boos is a real candidate. The South Dakota coach seems like she's high up on the list too. I'd personally like to see Boos get it. Think he could take the program to the next level.


Galway Eagle

Hope he can hang onto Natalie Ring.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

wadesworld

#1348
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 02, 2025, 04:40:57 PMMU hires So. Carolina's coach

https://x.com/MarquetteVB/status/1896325513888800950?t=mmjMxA-O_2gYLgySro_I9g&s=19

Interesting hire. Feels like a high floor but probably just maintaining the current level kind of hire. Felt like Boos would've been the home run hire here. But getting an active and decent SEC head coach to take your job is solid.

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: wadesworld on March 02, 2025, 08:10:26 PMInteresting hire. Feels like a low floor but probably just maintaining the current level kind of hire. Felt like Boos would've been the home run hire here. But getting an active and decent SEC head coach to take your job is solid.
Long time assistant at Creighton who's worked his way up the head coach ladder.

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