Break up California

[ChicosBailBonds]

I put 2 + 2 together and think I got 3 1/2. Chicos already left California and we know he is pretty far to the right - aha... which would make Idaho seem like the ideal place. And, then I saw this:

http://idahoptv.org/elections/2014/

Is Chicos leaving the world of DirectTV behind for the world of politics? I think the evidence speaks for itself 

Love Idaho, go up there 2 or 3 times a year.

Not sure any of these clowns are as clownish as Mary Burke   

[keefe]

Love Idaho, go up there 2 or 3 times a year.

Not sure any of these clowns are as clownish as Mary Burke   

I love Idaho, too. Superb fly fishing ad Ketchum is a great place.

Is Mary Burke a Subaru Driver?

[ATWizJr]

Dude! People are voting with their feet. By moving to California. It's where every educated Asian immigrant wants to be. It's where every computer or electrical engineering grad wants to work, including many of my MU buddies.

Hope you feel so warm and fuzzy about CA when it goes bankrupt.

[keefe]

CA when it goes bankrupt.

Fiscally? Morally? Intellectually?

[Coleman]

Fiscally? Morally? Intellectually?

Emotionally

[keefe]

Emotionally

Actually you are wrong there, Bleu. CA is the epicenter of emotional rediscovery. As a practitioner of Rolfing, EST, TM, and Primal Scream Therapy I can attest to the cleansing and nurturing properties of California-based emotional reconstitution. In fact, as soon as my loin cloth and dhoti are finished drying in the Seattle sun I am heading over to my Ashram for an afternoon of purging my residual carvaka tendencies through a tantric exploration of my seven most vital chakras. 

[Coleman]

Actually you are wrong there, Bleu. CA is the epicenter of emotional rediscovery. As a practitioner of Rolfing, EST, TM, and Primal Scream Therapy I can attest to the cleansing and nurturing properties of California-based emotional reconstitution. In fact, as soon as my loin cloth and dhoti are finished drying in the Seattle sun I am heading over to my Ashram for an afternoon of purging my residual carvaka tendencies through a tantric exploration of my seven most vital chakras. 

I stand corrected

[brandx]

Actually you are wrong there, Bleu. CA is the epicenter of emotional rediscovery. As a practitioner of Rolfing, EST, TM, and Primal Scream Therapy I can attest to the cleansing and nurturing properties of California-based emotional reconstitution. In fact, as soon as my loin cloth and dhoti are finished drying in the Seattle sun I am heading over to my Ashram for an afternoon of purging my residual carvaka tendencies through a tantric exploration of my seven most vital chakras. 

Ah.... I had you pegged as a disciple of the Buddha.

[Coleman]

Ah.... I had you pegged as a disciple of the Buddha.

Keefe does not seem to me as someone confined to a single life philosophy.

[ATWizJr]

Fiscally? Morally? Intellectually?

yes. 

[keefe]

Ah.... I had you pegged as a disciple of the Buddha.

Buddha was actually Hindu. Buddhism shares many central values with Hinduism but differs in that it is philosophical rather than theological.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Buddha was actually Hindu. Buddhism shares many central values with Hinduism but differs in that it is philosophical rather than theological.

Fr Lambert, S.J. taught me that.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Fr Lambert, S.J. taught me that.

I had him for Islam and Buddhism....two classes

[ChicosBailBonds]

Bye bye Sony Pictures Effects....California in rear view mirror...going to Canada.  Lower taxes.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-sony-imageworks-move-20140531-story.html

[brandx]

Bye bye Sony Pictures Effects....California in rear view mirror...going to Canada.  Lower taxes.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-sony-imageworks-move-20140531-story.html

Also from the LA Times - regarding Toyota:

The trouble is that taxes, regulations and business climate appear to have had nothing to do with Toyota's move. It came down to a simple matter of geography and a plan for corporate consolidation, Toyota's North American chief told The Times. And in the big picture, California's and Texas' economies are growing at a similar pace, with corporate relocations — in either direction — representing only a tiny slice of job growth in both states.

"It may seem like a juicy story to have this confrontation between California and Texas, but that was not the case," said Jim Lentz, Toyota's North American chief executive.

Toyota left California to move its company's brainpower, now divided among offices in three states, into one headquarters close to the company's manufacturing base, primarily in the South.

"It doesn't make sense to have oversight of manufacturing 2,000 miles away from where the cars were made," Lentz said. "Geography is the reason not to have our headquarters in California."

The episode highlights the outsized attention paid to the interstate scrum to woo big-name employers — often with public money. Add in Perry's high-profile company-poaching visits to California, and the move teed up a talking point for those who argue that California must change its ways to fend off the Texas assault.

"It's a prime example of the state's unfriendly tax code and business regulations that drive businesses out of the state," said Allan Mansoor, the top Republican on the state Assembly's economic development committee. "The whole thing could have been prevented."

Economic data paint a different picture, according to experts who study job migration and creation. For one thing, poaching of jobs does little to grow the economy of any state.

In the big picture, Texas and California are seeing strong job growth. Since they bottomed out in the recession, both states have added about 1.2 million jobs.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Bye bye Pratt & Whitney air power engines division...pulling out of San Diego and moving to Georgia or Texas.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Bye bye Sony Pictures Effects....California in rear view mirror...going to Canada.  Lower taxes.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-sony-imageworks-move-20140531-story.html

To Canada??? I thought that was a socialist hell hole that could NEVER compete with the U.S. for business? Why didn't these idiots go to your free & unfettered capitalist paradise Texas?

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Bye bye Pratt & Whitney air power engines division...pulling out of San Diego and moving to Georgia or Texas.

I didn't even know they had a location in California.  Probably Georgia as they have a location there already.  They have been trying to consolidate locations the last several years and closing smaller facilities so it's not surprising. 

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Also from the LA Times - regarding Toyota:

The trouble is that taxes, regulations and business climate appear to have had nothing to do with Toyota's move. It came down to a simple matter of geography and a plan for corporate consolidation, Toyota's North American chief told The Times. And in the big picture, California's and Texas' economies are growing at a similar pace, with corporate relocations — in either direction — representing only a tiny slice of job growth in both states.

"It may seem like a juicy story to have this confrontation between California and Texas, but that was not the case," said Jim Lentz, Toyota's North American chief executive.

Toyota left California to move its company's brainpower, now divided among offices in three states, into one headquarters close to the company's manufacturing base, primarily in the South.

"It doesn't make sense to have oversight of manufacturing 2,000 miles away from where the cars were made," Lentz said. "Geography is the reason not to have our headquarters in California."

The episode highlights the outsized attention paid to the interstate scrum to woo big-name employers — often with public money. Add in Perry's high-profile company-poaching visits to California, and the move teed up a talking point for those who argue that California must change its ways to fend off the Texas assault.

"It's a prime example of the state's unfriendly tax code and business regulations that drive businesses out of the state," said Allan Mansoor, the top Republican on the state Assembly's economic development committee. "The whole thing could have been prevented."

Economic data paint a different picture, according to experts who study job migration and creation. For one thing, poaching of jobs does little to grow the economy of any state.

In the big picture, Texas and California are seeing strong job growth. Since they bottomed out in the recession, both states have added about 1.2 million jobs.

I believe this also.  If anyone knows kaizen & lean, Toyota is the world leader in it.  The first rule is to eliminate distance in an assembly line.  The less travel the operator does the less waste, shorter assembly time and the more profit for the company.  This falls right in-line with that.  Closing a location in Kentucky should be the validation of this article as it's regarded as "a low cost state".

[keefe]

I believe this also.  If anyone knows kaizen & lean, Toyota is the world leader in it.  The first rule is to eliminate distance in an assembly line.  The less travel the operator does the less waste, shorter assembly time and the more profit for the company.  This falls right in-line with that.  Closing a location in Kentucky should be the validation of this article as it's regarded as "a low cost state".

I think the most amazing aspect of Kaizen is that it allowed Toyota to eliminate inventory. And because of the rigor and precision of their forecasting models, Toyota was able to do this not just for itself but all of its suppliers. This unheralded aspect of kaizen and Deming freed up hundreds of millions of dollars of working capital for more productive uses than carrying costs.

At a time when the Big Three had billions of dollars of capital tied up in inventory Toyota and its suppliers were operating on an exceptionally lean basis. This was a huge competitive advantage for Toyota and its entire ecosystem - from steel manufacturer through dealer network.

[brandx]

I think the most amazing aspect of Kaizen is that it allowed Toyota to eliminate inventory. And because of the rigor and precision of their forecasting models, Toyota was able to do this not just for itself but all of its suppliers. This unheralded aspect of kaizen and Deming freed up hundreds of millions of dollars of working capital for more productive uses than carrying costs.

At a time when the Big Three had billions of dollars of capital tied up in inventory Toyota and its suppliers were operating on an exceptionally lean basis. This was a huge competitive advantage for Toyota and its entire ecosystem - from steel manufacturer through dealer network.

Inventory management and sourcing/raw materials were always the main concerns of the last company I worked for. That is where your money is tied up.
From dealing with the cotton market and the effects that China had on it to managing inventory to find the balance of having enough inventory for distribution while at the same time not having too much cash tied up in it was a constant battle.

When it was just the Big 3 selling cars in the US, there was no concern over inventory. Once Toyota and Honda came in with their lean ways, it was almost goodbye for GM, Ford, and Chrysler. But that is the history of American business. Ford started as an innovator and after it's refusal to change with the times, found itself chasing Chevy forever.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Also from the LA Times - regarding Toyota:

The trouble is that taxes, regulations and business climate appear to have had nothing to do with Toyota's move. It came down to a simple matter of geography and a plan for corporate consolidation, Toyota's North American chief told The Times. And in the big picture, California's and Texas' economies are growing at a similar pace, with corporate relocations — in either direction — representing only a tiny slice of job growth in both states.

"It may seem like a juicy story to have this confrontation between California and Texas, but that was not the case," said Jim Lentz, Toyota's North American chief executive.

Toyota left California to move its company's brainpower, now divided among offices in three states, into one headquarters close to the company's manufacturing base, primarily in the South.

"It doesn't make sense to have oversight of manufacturing 2,000 miles away from where the cars were made," Lentz said. "Geography is the reason not to have our headquarters in California."

The episode highlights the outsized attention paid to the interstate scrum to woo big-name employers — often with public money. Add in Perry's high-profile company-poaching visits to California, and the move teed up a talking point for those who argue that California must change its ways to fend off the Texas assault.

"It's a prime example of the state's unfriendly tax code and business regulations that drive businesses out of the state," said Allan Mansoor, the top Republican on the state Assembly's economic development committee. "The whole thing could have been prevented."

Economic data paint a different picture, according to experts who study job migration and creation. For one thing, poaching of jobs does little to grow the economy of any state.

In the big picture, Texas and California are seeing strong job growth. Since they bottomed out in the recession, both states have added about 1.2 million jobs.

LOL.  What a pile of total excrement and typical unnatural carnal knowledgeing bullcrap with the LA Times carrying Jerry Brown's jug of water.

One of the guys I work with, his wife is SVP at Toyota in the their Finance office.  They have been transferred to Dallas effective in three years.  It has A TON to do with taxes.  How can this article even suggest this bullcrap when the mayor of Torrance flat out said they couldn't match the tax package when the announcement was made.

The journalism in this country to carry their liberal brethren is unnatural carnal knowledgeing disgusting.  

Here are the words directly out of the mouth of the major of Torrance.   "CALIFORNIA TO BLAME FOR TOYOTA MOVE".  http://www.cnbc.com/id/101625195

As for the last part of the LA Times article... let's compare those 1.2 million jobs added here in California to the kinds added in Texas.   It is embarrassing.

[keefe]

Here are the words directly out of the mouth of the major of Torrance.   "CALIFORNIA TO BLAME FOR TOYOTA MOVE".  

What the hell? The guy's only a major. Put a colonel in there if you want to get serious

[ChicosBailBonds]

What the hell? The guy's only a major. Put a colonel in there if you want to get serious

LOL.


Seriously, though, the crap the press will do to spin things has gotten so disgusting the last few decades.  Did you know our economy contracted this last quarter....first time in years.  You would be hard pressed to find it anywhere that was talked about in the mainstream press.  Have to protect the image, you know. 

This idea that Toyota didn't leave because of taxes...in fact the article says "NOTHING TO DO WITH TOYOTA'S MOVE" is flat out embarrassing that a journalistic endeavor can state this.  My old boss, Kathy Thompson, was the president of the Times until last year...she's now the CMO of Sirius XM Radio...glad she isn't there anymore.  That is just disgraceful reporting designed to do one thing....protect failed policies and a failed philosophy and cover it up. 

Jim Lentz is in CYA mode right now....his own Finance team that worked on the numbers say something totall different, I guess he's just being a politician now because the move has people upset.  The number one reason why businesses have left California...taxes and a gov't that is hostile to businesses. 

[keefe]

There is no question CA is not a very conducive environment for business. TX is winning because it accommodates corporate need. It is the classic strategy of enabling private sector value generation to replace government-sponsored economic activity. Mr. Jefferson would be pleased. There is no greater, more efficient mechanism than profit motive. Mr. Marx was naïve.