2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread

[tower912]

Go for both 4th downs in the first quarter on the goal line.   Make 1 of them.   Win in regulation. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

With 5:07 left in the game, Seattle had a 4.2% chance of winning the game.

[ChicosBailBonds]

True

Some handle it better than others

This might be the quote of the day considering today....

[jsglow]

With 5:07 left in the game, Seattle had a 4.2% chance of winning the game.

I'm trying not to think too much about it but I'm hard pressed to come up with a bigger loss in Packers history.  And I go all the way back to the Glory Years.  Plenty of blame to go around.

[GGGG]

I'm trying not to think too much about it but I'm hard pressed to come up with a bigger loss in Packers history.  And I go all the way back to the Glory Years.  Plenty of blame to go around.

I frankly can't come up with a more heartbreaking loss in my sports history.  Good thing I usually let these things slide off my back.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I really can't blame Capers for that.

I blame an overly conservative 5:00 offense, and a special teams that has been crappy all year.  Bostick was supposed to let Jordy get that ball.

Yup....

[hairy worthen]

This might be the quote of the day considering today....

Do you have to constantly show what  kind of a douche bag and ass hat you are.

McCarthey absolutely made mistakes, but I didn't see him out there trying to field an onside kick, or break up a 2 point conversion, or slide down with 5 minutes to go on an interception. I am guessing there are a lot of fans of other teams that would trade places with mcCartheys record.

[MUfan12]

I frankly can't come up with a more heartbreaking loss in my sports history. 

Me neither. I usually can let these things go after a short amount of time, but this one has really stuck with me.

SF in '98, 4th and 26, NYG in '08. All were really tough, but this was the worst. The only one I can think of that comes close is MU-Stanford.

[GGGG]

Yup....

Yep.  He even admitted as such.  I have no doubt that Jordy makes that play.

Oh well.

[jsglow]

Me neither. I usually can let these things go after a short amount of time, but this one has really stuck with me.

SF in '98, 4th and 26, NYG in '08. All were really tough, but this was the worst. The only one I can think of that comes close is MU-Stanford.

I'll give you a reverse analogy.  MU-Davidson.  It's that shocking.

[MUfan12]

I'll give you a reverse analogy.  MU-Davidson.  It's that shocking.

Spot on.

[jsglow]

I wonder if this will give Thompson reason to make a few changes?  I'm thinking not so much players although some will be gone but a coach or two.  The most obvious choice would be Slocum.

[GooooMarquette]

I frankly can't come up with a more heartbreaking loss in my sports history.

I was at the MU-Miami game in the '78 NCAA tournament.  This probably comes in second.

[brandx]

I wonder if this will give Thompson reason to make a few changes?  I'm thinking not so much players although some will be gone but a coach or two.  The most obvious choice would be Slocum.

The two biggest plays of the game were special team screw-ups.

[MUfan12]

I wonder if this will give Thompson reason to make a few changes?  I'm thinking not so much players although some will be gone but a coach or two.  The most obvious choice would be Slocum.

Slocum should go. Capers did enough after the bye week to save his job, though I hated only rushing two on 3rd and 19.

[Dish]

The two biggest plays of the game were special team screw-ups.

In hindsight, the two point conversion was up there too. Should have been a stop with a chance to go down and win.

[Sheriff]

Go for both 4th downs in the first quarter on the goal line.   Make 1 of them.   Win in regulation. 

Bingo.

[Jay Bee]

Hey, good try guys.

Next year you probably won't need to worry about losing in the playoffs.

SKOL VIKINGS!

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm trying not to think too much about it but I'm hard pressed to come up with a bigger loss in Packers history.  And I go all the way back to the Glory Years.  Plenty of blame to go around.

A bit of consoling of my son this afternoon, that's for sure.  He's a diehard Packers fan.  He's still a bit in disbelief.  We had a good philosophical discussion.  When you area  sports fan, unfortunately there are some days that your heart gets ripped out of you, probably happens more than feelings of euphoria.  Depends how hard you take the losses.  Of course the farther you go, the more it hurts.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Do you have to constantly show what  kind of a douche bag and ass hat you are.

McCarthey absolutely made mistakes, but I didn't see him out there trying to field an onside kick, or break up a 2 point conversion, or slide down with 5 minutes to go on an interception. I am guessing there are a lot of fans of other teams that would trade places with mcCartheys record.

Hairy, I don't think I said anything worse than what Army did before I even posted anything, but whatever.

Yes, I would think many teams would take McCarthy.  I happen to like him.  That being said, there are many Packers fans that believe they are leaving championships on the table.  Hard to say.  I suspect the below article from tonight is how many of those guys feel.  It's tough being a coach under the microscope of the playoffs.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/18/7777479/seahawks-packers-mike-mccarthy

[jsglow]

Hey, good try guys.

Next year you probably won't need to worry about losing in the playoffs.

SKOL VIKINGS!

No doubt an improving team but let's not go too far there.

[MerrittsMustache]

I realize that everyone is focusing on the gaffes in the last 5 minutes of the game, but 6 points off of 5 turnovers? It's tough for many to admit but St. Aaron deserves some blame for that debacle too.

[hairy worthen]

Hairy, I don't think I said anything worse than what Army did before I even posted anything, but whatever.

Yes, I would think many teams would take McCarthy.  I happen to like him.  That being said, there are many Packers fans that believe they are leaving championships on the table.  Hard to say.  I suspect the below article from tonight is how many of those guys feel.  It's tough being a coach under the microscope of the playoffs.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/18/7777479/seahawks-packers-mike-mccarthy

I would expect stupid comments from MUArmy, you at least make a reasonable argument.

There's plenty of blame to go around here, but McCarthy didn't lose them this game. Running the ball with 5 minutes to go was the correct call. Had they passed, and it stopped the clock or they got an interception everyone would have grilled  McCarthy for that.  Players need to make plays.  If they make 1 or 2 plays in that last 5 minutes, the Packers win going away and everyone is talking about what a hell of job McCarthy did winning on the road as an underdog.

The Packers will be back. They are a young ascending team and have cap space. It's tough to get that far though, everything has to go right.

[GGGG]

Also Aaron Rodgers did not have a very good game.  He missed Jordy in the end zone on one of those early drives where they settled for a FG.  He also underthrew Starks down the sideline when he had a step on the linebacker.  And of course there was in the INT on the first drive, which was erased by HHCD's, but still...

Really it comes down to not getting first downs on back to back drives with less then seven minutes to go in the game.  Even one first down there and the game is likely over.  And then of course the on side kick.

[GGGG]

Slocum should go.

Yes.  Here is what I don't understand about the fake FG.  The Packer's clearly went for the block, which IMO is nonsensical considering that Carroll likes rolling the dice and that it was a relatively short FG.  Furthermore holding them to a FG at that point is a defensive "win" IMO.  They still would have a 13 point lead.  The smart thing would have been to play it safe there.