DePaul Game thoughts

[tower912]

1.  Start Derrick at PG
2. Twin towers starting isn't the answer.   Poor ball movement
3.  Thank you, DePaul, for single covering Davante.   Nice game big fella
4.  Best team offensively today was Derrick, Todd, Jake, Jamil, Davante.   
5.  Deonte looked like a frosh.
6.   Whither JJJ and STjr?
7.  Everybody other than Davante, make your bleepin free throws.
8.  Nice adjustment in the second half to start contesting Depaul 3's.
9.  36-16 game ending runs are fun
10.   Indiana got rolled.  At home.

[nyg]

Juan hardly saw floor in second half after starting.
Otule hardly saw floor in second half after starting.
Three guard offense Mayo, Thomas and D. Wilson played long stretches together.

Besides the DNPs of others, Buzz cutting his rotation.

[tower912]

Deonte hardly played in the second half, too. 

[chapman]

Deonte hardly played in the second half, too. 

Liked that call today.  He's got tunnel vision on offense - only sees the hoop.  Sometimes you need the aggressiveness, other times you need the awareness.   

[mhendrick]

Depaul must be horrible. That is as bad a game we have played in years and still won by 10. Thank you Gardner.
No minutes for Johnson? Is he hurt?

[MUEng92]

I am sure it was just coincidence that the most repeated commercial during the first half was for a prostate exam.  Not sure if MU's play during the first half or the thought of a prostate exam was more uncomfortable.

[jesmu84]

Liked that call today.  He's got tunnel vision on offense - only sees the hoop.  Sometimes you need the aggressiveness, other times you need the awareness.   

it seems like sometimes he still has tunnel vision on defense too - still only staring at the hoop

[GGGG]

Liked that call today.  He's got tunnel vision on offense - only sees the hoop.  Sometimes you need the aggressiveness, other times you need the awareness.    

Deonte was also absolutely brutal on defense today...even in zone.

[PGsHeroes32]

As I keep saying.

The offense is simply better with Todd mayo on floor.

I would like to see JJJ with some of Jakes minutes but that simply isn't happening for whatever reason.

[GGGG]

As I keep saying.

The offense is simply better with Todd mayo on floor.

I would like to see JJJ with some of Jakes minutes but that simply isn't happening for whatever reason.

Because Jake plays well.  He was solid again today.  When Todd comes off the bench and score like today, JJJ just isn't going to get the minutes.

[PGsHeroes32]

Because Jake plays well.  He was solid again today.  When Todd comes off the bench and score like today, JJJ just isn't going to get the minutes.

Jake doesn't play well. It's a pray he gets a little warm from 3 and makes 2 in a row. His defense is decent. He doesn't do anything else.

You could give JJJ his minutes and things would work the same.

[GGGG]

Jake doesn't play well. It's a pray he gets a little warm from 3 and makes 2 in a row. His defense is decent. He doesn't do anything else.

You could give JJJ his minutes and things would work the same.

Holy crap.  What were you watching?  Did you SEE the defense that Jake played today???

Furthermore, when MU made their run, Jake and Todd were BOTH on the floor.  It worked very well.

[GGGG]

Not to mention, as I have brought up before, JT has by and large outplayed JJJ offensively in games where we have faced quality opposition. 

[jsglow]

Jake doesn't play well. It's a pray he gets a little warm from 3 and makes 2 in a row. His defense is decent. He doesn't do anything else.

You could give JJJ his minutes and things would work the same.

That's crazy.  Jake played well today.  He's been very consistent over the last several games.  Nice shot off the double screen.

[milwaukee ex-pat]

Give JJ Jakes minutes. Jake can't score or even be productive - good pass for example -in transition. Buzz needs for this team to get a lot of points in transition because they can't shoot well. JJJ Burton Dawson can finish and pass - they should all be getting minutes IMO. Love Jakes character but being a guard and being non entity on the offense except for the one situation where he gets an open 3 - really holds the offense back and makes it hard for the team to create an offensive identity.

[AirPunches]

Not to mention, as I have brought up before, JT has by and large outplayed JJJ offensively in games where we have faced quality opposition. 

Well, JJJ hasn't exactly had the same opportunity against quality opposition as Jake. Jake plays well when 3 guards are in at the same time. I don't think jake should be out there with just one other guard as he is in the starting lineup. Think Jake, mayo, and Derrick Wilson would be a decent group to start games with.

[injuryBug]

Not to mention, as I have brought up before, JT has by and large outplayed JJJ offensively in games where we have faced quality opposition. 

Not going to disagree that Jake has outplayed JJ but give JJ 30+ and the make a fair comparison.  The first 5 minutes the bench should have been cleared today that was the worst basketball I have seen.  My sons 3rd grade team gives more effort than they did early on

[jesmu84]

Not going to disagree that Jake has outplayed JJ but give JJ 30+ and the make a fair comparison.  The first 5 minutes the bench should have been cleared today that was the worst basketball I have seen.  My sons 3rd grade team gives more effort than they did early on

Buzz will never do this if JJ hasn't earned it

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Not to mention, as I have brought up before, JT has by and large outplayed JJJ offensively in games where we have faced quality opposition. 

Jajuan hasn't exactly gotten a chance to prove himself against any better teams so far. Jake has shown up vs some good teams but other times is a no-show. 0-7 from the field vs Ohio State in 29 minutes. JJJ DNP. Jake with 0 points in 26 minutes at Bucky. He has shown up in some games against good team, but his percentages in those games aren't very good. Jake is a better option defensively, but I question that JJJ couldn't do better than Jake offensively if given the chance.

[PGsHeroes32]

Not to mention, as I have brought up before, JT has by and large outplayed JJJ offensively in games where we have faced quality opposition. 

And as I have brought up before. JJJ hasn't had the chance.

With Jake we have zero good wins.

It really isn't hard to figure out.

[GGGG]

OMG...not this again.  "If only the guy I think is better played as much as the guy Buzz thinks is better, he would do just as well."

Just look at the games where they both played against top competition...ASU, GW, SDSU, UW, NM and Creighton.  

JJJ got 10+ minutes in all but two of them, and didn't do much of anything outside of ASU.  And went completely scoreless in four of them...and didn't manage to get even an assist or rebound in three of those four.

No one around here would call me a JT fan.  But he has simply been better than JJJ.

[PGsHeroes32]

Holy crap.  What were you watching?  Did you SEE the defense that Jake played today???

Furthermore, when MU made their run, Jake and Todd were BOTH on the floor.  It worked very well.

And yes. I have also made it abundantly clear. That Jake starts making shots with guys like Todd or JJJ in the game

[ATL MU Warrior]

And as I have brought up before. JJJ hasn't had the chance.

With Jake we have zero good wins.

It really isn't hard to figure out.

With Jamil we have zero good wins

With Davante we have zero good wins

With <insert name here> we have zero good wins

[PGsHeroes32]

OMG...not this again.  "If only the guy I think is better played as much as the guy Buzz thinks is better, he would do just as well."

Just look at the games where they both played against top competition...ASU, GW, SDSU, UW, NM and Creighton.  

JJJ got 10+ minutes in all but two of them, and didn't do much of anything outside of ASU.  And went completely scoreless in four of them...and didn't manage to get even an assist or rebound in three of those four.




No one around here would call me a JT fan.  But he has simply been better than JJJ.

You are using 10 minutes as a judge? When does jake ever get going right away? Do you want their shooting %? Their fts?

We are always down out of the gates because guys like Jake don't start well. Yet you use such a small time sample for JJJ

Again, ZERO good wins with Jake.

[GGGG]

Jajuan hasn't exactly gotten a chance to prove himself against any better teams so far. Jake has shown up vs some good teams but other times is a no-show. 0-7 from the field vs Ohio State in 29 minutes. JJJ DNP. Jake with 0 points in 26 minutes at Bucky. He has shown up in some games against good team, but his percentages in those games aren't very good. Jake is a better option defensively, but I question that JJJ couldn't do better than Jake offensively if given the chance.

11 min v. GW.  No points, no assists, no rebounds
9 min v. SDSU.  Ditto
10 min v. UW  No points, one assist, two rebounds
7 min v. NM.  No points, assists, or rebounds
14 min v. Creighton.  Four points, two assists, one rebound

He has had plenty of opportunity.