Washington Redskins change their name

[rocket surgeon]

The Blackhawks are making changes....someone was outraged and I am thrilled that they are responding to the outrage.  Now, if they can only end the racist logo there will be peace in the world.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/story/_/id/11350487/chicago-blackhawks-nix-stripper-online-petition-launched

900 people out of ? were "outraged"?  i guess everyone is going to have to sit down, shut up and watch in complete silence.  that way no one can get "outraged".  well, wait a second, guys hitting a puck-that seems kind of violent-yes i should have used teal.  i'm outraged at the "outrage" this is really getting/has gotten ridiculous, I have a toothache   

[Dr. Blackheart]

For Cheeks

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chinews-ditka-blames-politically-co-20140819-embeddedvideo.html

[ChicosBailBonds]

Thanks Doctor, here's another one

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24668601/mike-ditka-debate-over-redskins-name-so-stupid-its-appalling

God Bless Ditka....calling it like it is

[GGGG]

If Ditka is on your side of an argument, your argument is wrong by default.

[🏀]

Yeah, there was nothing redeeming about Ditka's rant. Nothing.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Yeah, there was nothing redeeming about Ditka's rant. Nothing.

There may not be a more ironic post in the history of this post, considering your avatar.     Offensive...terrify offensive

[ChicosBailBonds]

Today's Forbes ratings out, Redskins increased value by 41% and are third, valued now at $2.4billion.  Damn, that name is killing that value.

[🏀]

There may not be a more ironic post in the history of this post, considering your avatar.     Offensive...terrify offensive

[ChicosBailBonds]

I know exactly where it's from, one of the best SNL sketches ever.   Yet, there will be some (always someone) that is outraged or finds it, not "redeeming"

[Dr. Blackheart]

Somewhat related...Interesting history on UNLV's mascot. 

http://m.lvsun.com/news/2008/dec/23/why-are-unlv-sports-teams-represented-confederate-/

[Coleman]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-redskins-name-only-offensive-if-you-think-a,33449/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:NA:InFocus

[Coleman]

I know exactly where it's from, one of the best SNL sketches ever.   Yet, there will be some (always someone) that is outraged or finds it, not "redeeming"

Your non sequiturs are becoming almost predictable.

We aren't talking about an SNL skit. We are talking about a racist NFL nickname.

Ditka's rant made almost no sense. His primary argument was that it should be this way because its always been this way. And then he tried to politicize it, turning it into a liberal vs. conservative thing, which I'm not sure it is. To say that because Vince Lombardi didn't have a problem with it, at a time when African Americans weren't allowed to eat at the same lunch counters as whites, is just dumb. Lombardi lived in a different time and there were obviously different prevailing thoughts about ethnic minorities, which we now recognize as soundly racist.

Its time for Ditka to get his head checked. I have a hard time distinguishing the point he is even trying to make when I hear him on Chicago sports radio stations.

[MU82]

Your non sequiturs are becoming almost predictable.

We aren't talking about an SNL skit. We are talking about a racist NFL nickname.

Ditka's rant made almost no sense. His primary argument was that it should be this way because its always been this way. And then he tried to politicize it, turning it into a liberal vs. conservative thing, which I'm not sure it is. To say that because Vince Lombardi didn't have a problem with it, at a time when African Americans weren't allowed to eat at the same lunch counters as whites, is just dumb. Lombardi lived in a different time and there were obviously different prevailing thoughts about ethnic minorities, which we now recognize as soundly racist.

Its time for Ditka to get his head checked. I have a hard time distinguishing the point he is even trying to make when I hear him on Chicago sports radio stations.

Ditka is a sad, pathetic dinosaur who also is almost unintelligible. Quoting him to make a point is even worse than quoting Bleacher Report!

[ChicosBailBonds]

Your non sequiturs are becoming almost predictable.

We aren't talking about an SNL skit. We are talking about a racist NFL nickname.

Ditka's rant made almost no sense. His primary argument was that it should be this way because its always been this way. And then he tried to politicize it, turning it into a liberal vs. conservative thing, which I'm not sure it is. To say that because Vince Lombardi didn't have a problem with it, at a time when African Americans weren't allowed to eat at the same lunch counters as whites, is just dumb. Lombardi lived in a different time and there were obviously different prevailing thoughts about ethnic minorities, which we now recognize as soundly racist.

Its time for Ditka to get his head checked. I have a hard time distinguishing the point he is even trying to make when I hear him on Chicago sports radio stations.

We are talking about a nickname that SOME people find racist, most people do not.  Just because you want it to be racist, doesn't make it so. 

The reason he brought up Lombardi is because he was considered a progressive coach with African American players, gay players, etc, yet he went and coached for the Washington Redskins.  That's why he brought him up.

Someone is always outraged by something in this country, it's a cottage industry.  Someone would be outraged at Schmidt's Gay.  Not a non sequiter, an example of the never ending outrage about anything and everything.

Finally, this most stupid example that people use "you wouldn't call someone Redskin to their face", which was trumpeted again by Morrisey in the Sun Times yesterday.  His example, if a Native American dropped his had on the street you wouldn't say "Redskin you dropped your hat".  He's right, you wouldn't.  Just as if an Asian American or Hispanic American or African American or Israeli, or guy from Canada that isn't American or Russian Orthodox Jew or Egyptian poker player....doesn't matter....you would say the same thing..."sir, you dropped your hat".    The example is so incredibly dumb.  Would you say to a Notre Dame fan wearing a Notre Dame shirt that dropped his hat, "hey Irish fighter...you dropped your hat?"  Of course not.  It's beyond stupid.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Ditka is a sad, pathetic dinosaur who also is almost unintelligible. Quoting him to make a point is even worse than quoting Bleacher Report!

Clearly you have something against old people.  You must be a Gerontophobic!  Someone is outraged

[Lennys Tap]

We are talking about a nickname that SOME people find racist

Correct. The SOME people who can read a dictionary and comprehend a declarative sentence.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Someone please notify these men and women, clearly they are dumb, stupid, ignorant, etc because they don't realize they are racist about the nickname.  Oh, each of these men and women are Native American....plenty more where these came from.  Hopefully someone can get out there to reeducate and show them how dumb they are.


https://www.youtube.com/v/LT2b5kXFv-4#t=37

https://www.youtube.com/v/LaX6pUnI-hQ

https://www.youtube.com/v/M-c-RmrUBUg

https://www.youtube.com/v/2cleG4hLuuc

https://www.youtube.com/v/EA7wv7cmp8U

[GGGG]

**Chico's defends a racist nickname
**He claims people are too sensitive
**Continues to be the most over-sensitive person on Scoop
**Yet constantly cries "HYPOCRISY!!!"

Lather.  Rise.  Repeat.

[MU82]

Someone please notify these men and women, clearly they are dumb, stupid, ignorant, etc because they don't realize they are racist about the nickname.  Oh, each of these men and women are Native American....plenty more where these came from.  Hopefully someone can get out there to reeducate and show them how dumb they are.


https://www.youtube.com/v/LT2b5kXFv-4#t=37

https://www.youtube.com/v/LaX6pUnI-hQ

https://www.youtube.com/v/M-c-RmrUBUg

https://www.youtube.com/v/2cleG4hLuuc

https://www.youtube.com/v/EA7wv7cmp8U

Let's see ...

Some black people use the n-word when talking to each other and about each other. It also is extremely popular among rappers and other pop-culture figures. It was used freely in Huck Finn.

Ipso fatso, it would be acceptable - wait, not just acceptable, but good - for the next NFL team to be named the Los Angeles Ni@#$%^.

Because, you know, lots of blacks actually like the reference!

Logic, Chicos style.

[keefe]

I am curious. I flew as a member of the world famous Fighting Samurai (Tactical Call Sign Shogun) out of Misawa AB. Is the Squadron logo offensive to people?

[ChicosBailBonds]

I am curious. I flew as a member of the world famous Fighting Samurai (Tactical Call Sign Shogun) out of Misawa AB. Is the Squadron logo offensive to people?

To someone, somewhere....of course.  The mere fact that you are an American is offensive to someone, somewhere.  Your race, skin color, etc, is offensive to someone, somewhere.  It is what it is.

Welcome to planet outrage.

[Coleman]

I am curious. I flew as a member of the world famous Fighting Samurai (Tactical Call Sign Shogun) out of Misawa AB. Is the Squadron logo offensive to people?

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Its impossible for me to say as a white person. Which is exactly the point Chicos doesn't understand. I can't put myself in the place of a Japanese-American.

FWIW, I don't think every single depiction of an ethnic minority is automatically offensive. Its a case by case thing. And it depends on the minority you are portraying.

Is there a history of genocide or oppression of that minority? Is it being imposed by someone outside of that ethnic group, perhaps a member of another group that historically oppressed this minority? These kinds of specifics can change the equation.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Correct. The SOME people who can read a dictionary and comprehend a declarative sentence.

Yup, those Native Americans that support the name apparently are too stupid to read or comprehend....that's the conclusion I take from your answer.  They aren't enlightened as you are, or they are capable of understanding multiple definitions (which you aren't).  Ever look at the definition of Redskin over time and how it has changed in the dictionary?  Interesting.  Ever wonder about the makeup of who decides definitions of words or the political angle involved?  Some great articles on that process, but as the enlightened one I'm sure you already knew that.

Now, if you wouldn't mind donating some money to Native American causes to help educate the dumb ones that you feel don't agree with your sensibilities, that would be great.  You called them dumb and incapable of comprehension....sounds racist to me.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Let's see ...

Some black people use the n-word when talking to each other and about each other. It also is extremely popular among rappers and other pop-culture figures. It was used freely in Huck Finn.

Ipso fatso, it would be acceptable - wait, not just acceptable, but good - for the next NFL team to be named the Los Angeles Ni@#$%^.

Because, you know, lots of blacks actually like the reference!

Logic, Chicos style.

Apparently you didn't play one video, or you would be ashamed at how stupid your analogy is.  Try again as your comparison is shot down directly.  Really poor try, piss poor....UW Osh Kosh level.

[ChicosBailBonds]

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Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Its impossible for me to say as a white person. Which is exactly the point Chicos doesn't understand. I can't put myself in the place of a Japanese-American.[/u]

FWIW, I don't think every single depiction of an ethnic minority is automatically offensive. Its a case by case thing. And it depends on the minority you are portraying.

Is there a history of genocide or oppression of that minority? Is it being imposed by someone outside of that ethnic group, perhaps a member of another group that historically oppressed this minority? These kinds of specifics can change the equation.

Which is why I have posted videos of people that ARE Native American, so you can't use that BS argument.  Exactly the point YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.   I could post the numerous letters to the Washington Post from native Americans, polls, videos, etc.  What you really mean to say is that it doesn't conform to what YOU think it should be, and the opinions of only Native Americans that agree with YOUR opinion matters, not the opinions of any Native Americans that disagree.