Mascot woes at Butler and Georgetown

[hoyasincebirth]

The administration is terrible with regards to transparency. This is not new. This whole thing is BS and really disappointing. People will get over it if they just replace JJ with another dog, but if they actually discontinue having a live bulldog on campus... well I just pray it doesn't come to that.

[🏀]

Blackhawks are named after one individual guy, Chief Blackhawk, who is held in esteem.

The Blackhawks' name is not a reference to an entire people and is certainly not derogatory.

I do not believe the Blackhawks are named after Black Hawk.

I believe it was McLaughlin, founder of the Blackhawks, who served in the 86th Infantry Division also known as "Blackhawk" Division. He named the team after the Division.

[GGGG]

The administration is terrible with regards to transparency.

Welcome to another organ of the Catholic Church.

[GoldenZebra]

No, we are not.

We are Warriors.

Yeah, but we have been the golden eagles for almost a decade. Time to move on.

[real chili 83]

Yeah, but we have been the golden eagles for almost a decade. Time to move on.

Huh? When did WE become the golden eagles?  Ask anyone on this board.

[dgies9156]

In an act of solidarity, and to further honor our new conference brethren, I suggest we lay down to rest, for good, our own mascot, the wonderfully generic and completely uninspiring Golden Eagle.

No kidding! The Marquette Golden Eagle is the world's first furry bird!

Furry Birds? Yeah right. We need a Warrior again!

[brewcity77]

Huh? When did WE become the golden eagles?  Ask anyone on this board.

1994 as I recall. Just as we became Warriors in 1954. If people truly care about our roots, why not push for Hilltoppers? Don't get me wrong, Warriors is a fine mascot name, and I prefer it to Golden Eagles (though Warriors still isn't my first choice) but acting like we never became GEs is just silly. It happened. It happened almost 2 decades ago. We have players who weren't even born when we were Warriors. Time to move on and support Marquette regardless what the mascot is.

[Avenue Commons]

1994 as I recall. Just as we became Warriors in 1954. If people truly care about our roots, why not push for Hilltoppers? Don't get me wrong, Warriors is a fine mascot name, and I prefer it to Golden Eagles (though Warriors still isn't my first choice) but acting like we never became GEs is just silly. It happened. It happened almost 2 decades ago. We have players who weren't even born when we were Warriors. Time to move on and support Marquette regardless what the mascot is.

IF we had dropped the Native American logo and kept the name Warriors in 1994, all would have just moved on. The mistake was in the way everything was handled in 1994. I don't think anyone but Fr. DiUlio disputes this.

The answer to all of this was to have returned to Hilltoppers back in 2005 or whenever it was there was the "vote" on what the name would be post the Gold Debacle.

By the way, I prefer Gold to Golden Eagles. At least Gold is unique.

[GGGG]

1994 as I recall. Just as we became Warriors in 1954. If people truly care about our roots, why not push for Hilltoppers? Don't get me wrong, Warriors is a fine mascot name, and I prefer it to Golden Eagles (though Warriors still isn't my first choice) but acting like we never became GEs is just silly. It happened. It happened almost 2 decades ago. We have players who weren't even born when we were Warriors. Time to move on and support Marquette regardless what the mascot is.

I will never support Golden Eagles.

The answer to all of this was to have returned to Hilltoppers back in 2005 or whenever it was there was the "vote" on what the name would be post the Gold Debacle.

Or even back in '94.  Unique name speaks to tradition.

[Galway Eagle]

IF we had dropped the Native American logo and kept the name Warriors in 1994, all would have just moved on. The mistake was in the way everything was handled in 1994. I don't think anyone but Fr. DiUlio disputes this.

The answer to all of this was to have returned to Hilltoppers back in 2005 or whenever it was there was the "vote" on what the name would be post the Gold Debacle.

By the way, I prefer Gold to Golden Eagles. At least Gold is unique.

I prefer gold as well but the way they approached it was stupid with a childlike mascot named Goldie.  I just think the name on the front of the jersey is a hell of a lot more important that anything else and that name is Marquette not golden eagles not warriors not gold not hilltoppers

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

I will never support Golden Eagles.


Or even back in '94.  Unique name speaks to tradition.

The basketball program doesn't even support the Golden Eagles.

[mr.MUskie]

The answer to all of this was to have returned to Hilltoppers back in 2005 or whenever it was there was the "vote" on what the name would be post the Gold Debacle.

There it is.  Our new name.  The Gold Debacle.

[seakm4]

In an act of solidarity, and to further honor our new conference brethren, I suggest we lay down to rest, for good, our own mascot, the wonderfully generic and completely uninspiring Golden Eagle.

We should have been the marquette gold.  That way when we wore gold in the stands we would be the team's mascot.

[Lennys Tap]

Time to move on and support Marquette regardless what the mascot is.

My support for Marquette has never wavered. Never will. That does not translate into accepting the edict of one very bad president who deep sixed  Warriors and gave us Golden Eagles.

[Avenue Commons]

I do not believe the Blackhawks are named after Black Hawk.

I believe it was McLaughlin, founder of the Blackhawks, who served in the 86th Infantry Division also known as "Blackhawk" Division. He named the team after the Division.

True. But the division was named after Chief Blackhawk.

Plus, look at the sweaters 

[dgies9156]

I would not be a complete summer if we were not having yet another "Warriors", "Hilltoppers", "Gold" and "Golden Eagles" debate!

Was Father DiUlio not particularly smart when he made the decision? Of course! Does Golden Eagles have any connection to us at Marquette? Well, until I see some Furry Birds flying over Milwaukee (those old Delta jets with moss on them don't count), probably not!

Look, I'll always be a Warrior but times change. It's been 20 years since we became the Furry Birds and we Warriors are dying off, slowly perhaps, but most of us are three decades or more out of college. It's time to let this one go, folks and move on to more important things.

[brewcity77]

I have thought for a long time the simple answer that would appease everyone would be to drop the mascot. No Golden Eagles, no Hilltoppers, no Gold, no Warriors, just Marquette. After all, through all of these nicknames, the only constant is Marquette.

Also...Hilltoppers wouldn't be unique. Western Kentucky are also the Hilltoppers.

[real chili 83]

1994 as I recall. Just as we became Warriors in 1954. If people truly care about our roots, why not push for Hilltoppers? Don't get me wrong, Warriors is a fine mascot name, and I prefer it to Golden Eagles (though Warriors still isn't my first choice) but acting like we never became GEs is just silly. It happened. It happened almost 2 decades ago. We have players who weren't even born when we were Warriors. Time to move on and support Marquette regardless what the mascot is.

Clearly, we all support MU.

It's as much about how it happened more than anything else.

If it's true that the school took a big payout, that is equally frustrating.  That one is a head scratcher.

[Aughnanure]

I will never support Golden Eagles.


Or even back in '94.  Unique name speaks to tradition.

Gold > Golden Eagles. Thanks everyone for freaking out so much that that was ruined. But no, we couldn't handle the simple, predictable, and easy jokes for the first 2 weeks.

I'd still take Jumpin' Jesuits...who's with me! Time to start a petition on petitions.whitehouse.gov

[warriorchick]

I'd still take Jumpin' Jesuits...who's with me! Time to start a petition on petitions.whitehouse.gov

That would offend members of the Jesuit order who are mobility impaired.

Shame on you for hurting Fr. Naus's feelings!

[TallTitan34]

I prefer the name Warriors but I have no problem with Golden Eagles. 

In 30 years or so, the pro-Warriors crowd will die off and it won't be an issue anymore.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

I prefer the name Warriors but I have no problem with Golden Eagles. 

In 30 years or so, the pro-Warriors crowd will die off and it won't be an issue anymore.

I don't think people would care so much if the name wasn't something as in your face worthless as "golden eagles." Might as well have gone with another goddam wildcat mascot.

[TallTitan34]

I don't think people would care so much if the name wasn't something as in your face worthless as "golden eagles." Might as well have gone with another goddam wildcat mascot.

I don't think people would care if the name was Warriors with a golden eagle mascot.

[klyrish]

Blackhawks and Seminoles are tribe names and the logos are just of Native American faces. What about either of those is offensive?

[BrewCity83]

I don't think people would care if the name was Warriors with a golden eagle mascot.

Could the eagle have warpaint and a tomahawk?  That would be cool....