2013 NFC North/NFL Thread

[NavinRJohnson]

Just stop. Youre not a Bears fan and youre just being obnoxious. I dont comment on Packers personel decisions.

How dare someone comment on the Bears in a thread entitled "2013 NFC North/NFL Thread."

[wardle2wade]

Loves to turn the ball over. I would take a much physically less gifted quarterback who values the football over Jay. Turnovers are death in the NFL, and nobody turns it over better than Jay Cutler.

McCown >>> Cutler

And yes I realize Cutler's physical tools >>> McCown's physical tools.

Please resign him. And please play him against the Pack.

I'm assuming you are not watching the game.  Albeit he's rusty (not completely healthy?), but both the INT's were tipped off Marshall's fingers.  The second pass was poor as it sailed on him with the wind.  This is too small of a sample size yet.

[DegenerateDish]

Shocked how bad Eagles have been today, tons to play for.

[real chili 83]

Shocked how bad Eagles have been today, tons to play for.

Matt Cassell having a career day today.  He is absolutely picking the Eagles apart.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

You going to blame that fumble on Cutler too?

[NavinRJohnson]

Josh Gordon has been invisible in this one...so far. That's a little scary for the Bears.

[Hards Alumni]

You going to blame that fumble on Cutler too?

Yeah you mad.

[real chili 83]

Eagles are getting their lunch eaten by Cassell and the Vikes.

Wonder if the Vikes d can hold up.

Vikes missing top two running backs and most of their starting secondary.

[jesmu84]

Same old jay

https://twitter.com/Rich_Campbell/status/412325132003078147

(see, I can make short sighted comments too)

[wadesworld]

Same old jay

https://twitter.com/Rich_Campbell/status/412325132003078147

(see, I can make short sighted comments too)

So you're OK with 3 touchdowns to 2 interceptions? I guess with Jay Cutler as your quarterback you have to be, but you aren't going to play the Browns 16 games a year. The only way "Same old Jay" was short sighted was that Jay actually improved on his career touchdown to turnover ratio by going for 3 touchdowns with 2 interceptions. That's not good.

[MerrittsMustache]

Interesting game. Cutler provided ammo for both anti-Cutler people and pro-Cutler people. He had 2 picks and a few other poorly thrown balls, but was outstanding on 3rd down and got the win. He forced passes that McCown wouldn't have, but led a comeback which McCown hadn't done.

A win for the Bears and for sports talk radio!

[wardle2wade]

See my post above.  The INT's came off two Marshall's tips and at the start when Cutler showed some rust.  If Rodgers plays again this season, I'd be shocked if he doesn't have rust in the first half... especially if it's a windy 10 degree road game.  

[wardle2wade]

Next week at Philly should be pretty telling for Cutler.  I imagine Trestman/Cutler learned quite a bit today about any leaks Jay may have in his game in regard to the past injuries.  That sick grab by Alshon should build more confidence/chemistry with Cutler like he has with Marshall.

[DegenerateDish]

So you're OK with 3 touchdowns to 2 interceptions? I guess with Jay Cutler as your quarterback you have to be, but you aren't going to play the Browns 16 games a year. The only way "Same old Jay" was short sighted was that Jay actually improved on his career touchdown to turnover ratio by going for 3 touchdowns with 2 interceptions. That's not good.

I know hou want to vilify Cutler, but by no means was he terrible today, not close. He wasn't 100%, had one ball clearly tipped for a pick. I'm not sure why you feel the need to call him out, they even won.

[wadesworld]

McCarthy is not good at all.  Usually when a team goes into a game without theirs starting quarterback the head coach adjusts his game plans to get the backup quarterback some easy completions early and get comfortable.  Usually it's a quick drop back and it opens up some running lanes for the running back as well.  Instead Mike decides to do some deep drops while Dallas continues to blitz and get in Flynn's face and Flynn fails to get the ball out.  I get that the offensive line needs to be able to protect Flynn better, but come on.  It's not hard to figure out the Cowboys are going to be coming with heat, why are we dropping Flynn back 10 yards deep on first down?  Then inevitably 2nd down is a screen or draw because it's really the only option and the defense knows that so it's 3rd and 25 and we just get 5 yards of room for the punter to get a punt off.  It's unbelievable.  How do you not come in with something different by this point after going 1-4-1 over the last 6 weeks?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I know hou want to vilify Cutler, but by no means was he terrible today, not close. He wasn't 100%, had one ball clearly tipped for a pick. I'm not sure why you feel the need to call him out, they even won.

Because hes a bitter Packer fan thats upset they dont have a good backup.

[wadesworld]

Because hes a bitter Packer fan thats upset they dont have a good backup.

Bitter about what?  I accepted that the Packers were going to miss the Playoffs after the Lions game.  The fact that the Lions and Bears kept the Packers in the Playoff hunt this long is amazing to me.  It's college basketball season for me.  I have nothing to be bitter about.  2 Super Bowls and a lifetime of Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers is much better than any Bears fan (or anyone other than the Patriots really) can say in my quarter of a century on this planet.

Let me ask you this, do you really think Jay Cutler is a good quarterback in the NFL?  I'm not asking if he's a physically gifted quarterback.  I'm asking if he's a good NFL quarterback.  Before you answer that, consider the fact that he has nearly 20 more turnovers than he has touchdowns in his career.  Also keep in mind he has made the Playoffs a total of 1 time in his career.  Are those credentials of a good NFL quarterback?  If so, then maybe I am truly just bitter...

[ChicosBailBonds]

McCarthy is not good at all.  Usually when a team goes into a game without theirs starting quarterback the head coach adjusts his game plans to get the backup quarterback some easy completions early and get comfortable.  Usually it's a quick drop back and it opens up some running lanes for the running back as well.  Instead Mike decides to do some deep drops while Dallas continues to blitz and get in Flynn's face and Flynn fails to get the ball out.  I get that the offensive line needs to be able to protect Flynn better, but come on.  It's not hard to figure out the Cowboys are going to be coming with heat, why are we dropping Flynn back 10 yards deep on first down?  Then inevitably 2nd down is a screen or draw because it's really the only option and the defense knows that so it's 3rd and 25 and we just get 5 yards of room for the punter to get a punt off.  It's unbelievable.  How do you not come in with something different by this point after going 1-4-1 over the last 6 weeks?

Don't worry, we have Garrett.  Cowboys running all over the Packers.  Intercept the ball, up 16-3 and what do the Cowboys do....3 straight passes, including a sack.  That's the brilliance of our staff.

[GGGG]

McCarthy is not good at all.  Usually when a team goes into a game without theirs starting quarterback the head coach adjusts his game plans to get the backup quarterback some easy completions early and get comfortable.  Usually it's a quick drop back and it opens up some running lanes for the running back as well.  Instead Mike decides to do some deep drops while Dallas continues to blitz and get in Flynn's face and Flynn fails to get the ball out.  I get that the offensive line needs to be able to protect Flynn better, but come on.  It's not hard to figure out the Cowboys are going to be coming with heat, why are we dropping Flynn back 10 yards deep on first down?  Then inevitably 2nd down is a screen or draw because it's really the only option and the defense knows that so it's 3rd and 25 and we just get 5 yards of room for the punter to get a punt off.  It's unbelievable.  How do you not come in with something different by this point after going 1-4-1 over the last 6 weeks?

Because the Cowboys are pressing the receivers making the short game very difficult.  They are going deep because thats what the defense is giving them.

[wadesworld]

Don't worry, we have Garrett.  Cowboys running all over the Packers.  Intercept the ball, up 16-3 and what do the Cowboys do....3 straight passes, including a sack.  That's the brilliance of our staff.

Very true.  At one point Murray had 7 rushes for 77 yards and they threw the ball 7 straight times and had to punt.  But at least they're getting 7 plays in before punting, whereas the Packers may pick up a first down on their first play of the drive, but then it's 3 and out from there at best.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Yes, I truly think Cutler is a good NFL quarterback. For every 1 Cutler you have Gabbert, Quinn, Orton, Tebow, Krenzel, Campbell etc. Finding a guy like Cutler is rare.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Very true.  At one point Murray had 7 rushes for 77 yards and they threw the ball 7 straight times and had to punt.  But at least they're getting 7 plays in before punting, whereas the Packers may pick up a first down on their first play of the drive, but then it's 3 and out from there at best.

I've seen the Cowboys this year only run it 9 times the entire game....3 times in a half.  It is mindboggling to me, absolutely mindboggling.

[brandx]

So what exactly would Capers have to do to get fired?

[muarmy81]

Bitter about what?  I accepted that the Packers were going to miss the Playoffs after the Lions game.  The fact that the Lions and Bears kept the Packers in the Playoff hunt this long is amazing to me.  It's college basketball season for me.  I have nothing to be bitter about.  2 Super Bowls and a lifetime of Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers is much better than any Bears fan (or anyone other than the Patriots really) can say in my quarter of a century on this planet.

Let me ask you this, do you really think Jay Cutler is a good quarterback in the NFL?  I'm not asking if he's a physically gifted quarterback.  I'm asking if he's a good NFL quarterback.  Before you answer that, consider the fact that he has nearly 20 more turnovers than he has touchdowns in his career.  Also keep in mind he has made the Playoffs a total of 1 time in his career.  Are those credentials of a good NFL quarterback?  If so, then maybe I am truly just bitter...

After a rant like that...you sound a little bitter

[wadesworld]

After a rant like that...you sound a little bitter

If I was making up facts to make Cutler look bad then maybe you'd have a point.  But has Cutler made the Playoffs more than once in his career?  Does Cutler have more turnovers than touchdowns in his career?