When will we know Mayo's situation?

[Stronghold]

I'm assuming until final grades come out on Tuesday?

[Tugg Speedman]

Benny B did a great job of explaining it a few weeks ago:

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=34474.msg422006#msg422006

In short, if you can answer yes to each of the following questions, you're eligible:

1) If you've completed your second/third/fourth year, have you earned 52/77/103 credit hours, respectively?
2) Did you earn at least six credit hours in the previous term?
3) Is your GPA at or above your institution's minimum requirements?
4) Are you currently enrolled for 12 credit hours?

Assuming the consensus opinion that Todd is ineligible as a result of #4 above, as long as he earns 6 credit hours each semester for the first two years and maintains MU's GPA requirements, he is eligible for the next term.

"Term" is also defined by the institution.  Session 1 (fall semester) at Marquette ends 12/15/12 and Session 7 (spring semester) begins 12/17/12.  Therefore, assuming that Todd earns six credits this semester, keeps his GPA over MU's threshold, (EDIT) and enrolls in 12 credits for the spring semester  Todd will be eligible on 12/17/12, making him available - at the earliest - for UWGB.

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So Tomorrow (Monday Dec 17) the new term begins.  Grades are due by Tuesday Dec 18.  If he is going to be eligible as we all think, it SHOULD happen before Wednesday's game against UWGB (Dec 19).  If not (that is an announcement that Mayo is again eligible) then I would worry that he is not.

[muguru]

Unfortunately, it's not this cut and dry. It's not a matter of him just being eligible. He very well may be, but that doesn't necessarily make him eligible. He did his part(hopefully), now it's out of his hands.

[Tugg Speedman]

Unfortunately, it's not this cut and dry. It's not a matter of him just being eligible. He very well may be, but that doesn't necessarily make him eligible. He did his part(hopefully), now it's out of his hands.

If he is eligible and does not come back by Wednesday, then he is never coming back.  If he is still ineligible, then he is never coming back anyway.  Their is no reason to hold of on reinstating him after Wednesday unless you do not want him back.

Now I did not say he will play.  He could be ruled eligible tomorrow and Buzz may decide to not play him the next few games.  That is a separate decision.

[Les Nessman]

Hasn't he also been unable to practice with the team? You'd think that would mean he'd need some time to get back up to speed with everyone.

[GGGG]

If he is eligible and does not come back by Wednesday, then he is never coming back.  If he is still ineligible, then he is never coming back anyway.

That is not necessarily true.  Part of this is up to Marquette.

[Tugg Speedman]

That is not necessarily true.  Part of this is up to Marquette.

What part of MU's decision has not been made and will need beyond Wednesday to make this decision?

[GGGG]

Mayo is on academic probation.  MU could simply decide that he is no longer going to play at Marquette.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Mayo is on academic probation.  MU could simply decide that he is no longer going to play at Marquette.

Let's hope this isn't the case. C'mon Todd, we need you back.

[Tugg Speedman]

Mayo is on academic probation.  MU could simply decide that he is no longer going to play at Marquette.

See Mayo tweets and Facebook updates as he thinks he's coming back before Wednesday.

So you're thinking that MU is such a bunch of low-lifes that they have not told Mayo their plans and let him keep trying to qualify when it was not going to happen?

[GGGG]

See Mayo tweets and Facebook updates as he thinks he's coming back before Wednesday.

So you're thinking that MU is such a bunch of low-lifes that they have not told Mayo their plans and let him keep trying to qualify when it was not going to happen?

Did Mayo say what Marquette told him?  What he "thinks" may not be anything but speculation.

[chapman]

Hasn't he also been unable to practice with the team? You'd think that would mean he'd need some time to get back up to speed with everyone.

Yep.  Even if he's reinstated I doubt you see him play Wednesday.  Maybe Saturday, maybe after the holiday.

[Lennys Tap]

That is not necessarily true.  Part of this is up to Marquette.

Sultan - know you have sources and are on record as being doubtful of Mayo's return. Have you heard anything new to change or reinforce that position?

[The Equalizer]

If he is eligible and does not come back by Wednesday, then he is never coming back. If he is still ineligible, then he is never coming back anyway.  Their is no reason to hold of on reinstating him after Wednesday unless you do not want him back.

I guess the question is why he is "never coming back"?  

I can easily see a situation where Buzz lays things out like this:  "I want you on the team, but I care about you as an individual more than us winning.  I don't want you for the next 108 days if there's a chance you won't be here on day 478 and day 842."

[Lennys Tap]

I guess the question is why he is "never coming back"?  

I can easily see a situation where Buzz lays things out like this:  "I want you on the team, but I care about you as an individual more than us winning.  I don't want you for the next 108 days if there's a chance you won't be here on day 478 and day 842."

I can't (easily or otherwise) see Buzz not being upfront and clear with Mayo in October (and since) about what it would take to be reinstated. Assuming Todd's met the requirements I don't see Buzz being Lucy to Mayo's Charlie Brown.

[Tugg Speedman]

I guess the question is why he is "never coming back"?  

I can easily see a situation where Buzz lays things out like this:  "I want you on the team, but I care about you as an individual more than us winning.  I don't want you for the next 108 days if there's a chance you won't be here on day 478 and day 842."

Again go read Mayo's tweets and Facebook page, he has been counting down to December 15 which suggests this is not the case.

[GGGG]

Again go read Mayo's tweets and Facebook page, he has been counting down to December 15 which suggests this is not the case.

OK...if you want to believe him that's fine, but know you are only hearing one side.

Sultan - know you have sources and are on record as being doubtful of Mayo's return. Have you heard anything new to change or reinforce that position?

I know only what I have said.

[Tugg Speedman]

Sultan, here is your position as I understand it ... you don't know squat yet you're sure that Mayo is wrong in suggesting via twitter and facebook he will be reinstated in the next few days.

What are going to say tomorrow morning, or Tuesday morning when MU releases a presser saying Mayo is back on the team?

[GGGG]

Sultan, here is your position as I understand it ... you don't know squat yet you're sure that Mayo is wrong in suggesting via twitter and facebook he will be reinstated in the next few days.

What are going to say tomorrow morning, or Tuesday morning when MU releases a presser saying Mayo is back on the team?

You shift goalposts CONSTANTLY in your arguments.  

What I said was that your position that if Mayo isn't back by Wednesday that he wouldn't be back at all, is wrong.  He very well could be back Tuesday....or Wednesday.  But it very well could be next Saturday before he is reinstated.  Wednesday isn't some sort of magic day due to his Facebook account.  Marquette still has to give the go ahead.  And that *could* be sometime after Wednesday...that is all I am saying.

So if he is reinstated tomorrow, that's great!  I never said he wouldn't be.

[Tugg Speedman]

You shift goalposts CONSTANTLY in your arguments.  

What I said was that your position that if Mayo isn't back by Wednesday that he wouldn't be back at all, is wrong.  He very well could be back Tuesday....or Wednesday.  But it very well could be next Saturday before he is reinstated.  Wednesday isn't some sort of magic day due to his Facebook account.  Marquette still has to give the go ahead.  And that *could* be sometime after Wednesday...that is all I am saying.

So if he is reinstated tomorrow, that's great!  I never said he wouldn't be.

Ok ...

My assumption is all the other issues have already been discussed and resolved between Mayo and Buzz.  If not, he would have left Milwaukee months ago.  That is why Mayo tweets and says on Face book he ready to go once he passes his classes.

So all that was left was regaining eligibility.  I assume that was accomplished last week with his finals.  So all that we are waiting on is his official grades (due by Tuesday) and the official start of the semester (Monday, as explained above).

Otherwise, Buzz risks being perceived as yanking Mayo's chain.  By waiting until the semester and then listing more rules to getting back on the team could hurt Buzz down the road.  When (unfortunately) the next player is ruled ineligible, he will just leave as Buzz cannot be trusted.

[GGGG]

nm

[Tugg Speedman]

It may not be entirely buzz'a decision. As I said he is on academic probation. I view the photo of him at the Xmas party to be a good sign though 

The school is closed for winter break.  Mayo is not on the team right now.  If he is not reinstated today or tomorrow, with school over, he has to leave Humphrey, no?  Students not on teams in season cannot stay in the dorms over winter break, correct?

That is why I say he has to be reinstated now.  Otherwise he has to leave Milwaukee for a month, presumably going back to West Virginia.  If so, he will probably never return.

[g0lden3agle]

The school is closed for winter break.  Mayo is not on the team right now.  If he is not reinstated today or tomorrow, with school over, he has to leave Humphrey, no?  Students not on teams in season cannot stay in the dorms over winter break, correct?

That is why I say he has to be reinstated now.  Otherwise he has to leave Milwaukee for a month, presumably going back to West Virginia.  If so, he will probably never return.

Humphrey isn't a dorm, it's a campus owned apartment.  The "must leave when school is not in session" rule doesn't apply to people living at campus owned apartments I'm pretty sure.

[Tugg Speedman]

Humphrey isn't a dorm, it's a campus owned apartment.  The "must leave when school is not in session" rule doesn't apply to people living at campus owned apartments I'm pretty sure.

Ok, if not reinstated, then is he expected to sit in an empty apartment building through the holidays as his former teammates are busy with practice and games while everyone else on campus is gone?  I would think he would still leave for a month and possibly never return.

[mileskishnish72]

Sultan, ---nm?? No mas?