Jerry Meyer: Johnson expected to pick Marquette

[mu03eng]

So let me get this straight.  The word is that we are probably getting another 4 star player and the board is going Ape crap because we are worried what Badger fans might think?  Sounds like we have a good problem to have

Way to make s$%t up.  No one is worried about the Badger fans, Tom Smykowski.

[Tugg Speedman]

Way to make s$%t up.  No one is worried about the Badger fans, Tom Smykowski.

+1

NO ONE cares what badger fans think.

[bilsu]

Buzz is bringing in up to four players for the 1-3 positions. There are only two (1-3's) scheduled to graduate. It seems obvious to me that Buzz expects someone else to leave who plays 1-3 postions. I think Blue wants to be done and the better the year he has the more likely he is gone. One has to question whether Mayo comes back. I would love to get Johnson and Embiid. It would not surprise me to see Otule on next year's team, even if we got Johnson and Embiid.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

There is no way Blue leaves after this season... Mayo on the other hand, might have reason to leave. After this season, its really now or never time in terms of his NBA prospects and he seemed to be on the fence as to whether to come back this season. If he knows that he has no shot at the Association, I can see Mayo just wanting to get paid somewhere.

[4everwarriors]

I'm thinkin' 'bout declarin' early too.

[Benny B]

I'm thinkin' 'bout declarin' early too.

Best that you stay in school and work on those linguistic skills.

[GGGG]

There is no way Blue leaves after this season... Mayo on the other hand, might have reason to leave. After this season, its really now or never time in terms of his NBA prospects and he seemed to be on the fence as to whether to come back this season. If he knows that he has no shot at the Association, I can see Mayo just wanting to get paid somewhere.

I can see circumstances where they both leave.  Blue has an NBA body and NBA athleticism.  If he shows any signs of shot improvement, he clearly could be a draftable player.  

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Blue is currently ranked 40th among JRs on NBA Draft Express, and not in the top 100 prospects. He'd really have to blow people out of the water this year to think he'd have a shot at the first round.

[martyconlonontherun]

Blue is currently ranked 40th among JRs on NBA Draft Express, and not in the top 100 prospects. He'd really have to blow people out of the water this year to think he'd have a shot at the first round.

I would be pretty upset if my GM even considered drafting Blue.

[BostonMUaler]

The Chances that Blue gets Drafted First round are 1000:1 I doubt any GM would take a chance on guard with a broke shot regardless of his athletic ability.
I do Agree with AWegz that Mayo is more likely to want to get paid as it doesn't seem like he values education given his history.

[nyg]

Johnson to announce at 12pm EST today. 

[GGGG]

First off, I didn't say "first round."  Second, I pretty much qualified my answer by saying that he would need to show signs of shot improvement.  

Look, he could very well turn into a Jared Cunningham-type player.  I really don't think many Oregon State fans thought before last year that he would be a draftable player - and he ended up in the first round.  Read his scouting report and it isn't much of a stretch to view Blue in the same light.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jared-Cunningham-6484/

And read this thread on the Scout board...they felt he made a terrible descison

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=182&f=1708&t=8891567

"Personally? he goes undrafted. athletic, high jumping 6-3 players are a dime a dozen... and most of them actually played PG in college. He does not have the passing, the ball handling or the outside shot needed."

"Any agent looking to make a quick buck by pumping sunshine. It's easy when a kid has dreamt his whole life about the possibility of playing pro ball and has probably had people in his inner circle since age 12 telling him he is good enough."

"I think he will end up in the NBADL next year."


Look, I don't fully think you realize how much NBA GMs draft on potential.  And Blue has a bunch of it.  More than Mayo does.  I don't see it as a stretch at all to think that WITH A GOOD YEAR, that he could be drafted next year.

[Benny B]

I can see circumstances where they both leave.  Blue has an NBA body and NBA athleticism.  If he shows any signs of shot improvement, he clearly could be a draftable player.  

Exactly.  Don't sell these kids short because they haven't yet fulfilled your expectations or their potential.  Kids grow, mature, improve, etc.

If your toddler isn't reading Goodnight Moon by himself by 4 years old, do you close down the 529 and buy him a mop & bucket?  If MUScoop was a perfect sample of the population, we'd be the dumbest - though cleanest - nation on the planet.

[brewcity77]

Look, I don't fully think you realize how much NBA GMs draft on potential.  And Blue has a bunch of it.  More than Mayo does.  I don't see it as a stretch at all to think that WITH A GOOD YEAR, that he could be drafted next year.

In addition, Blue is young for his class. We see Vander Blue, Marquette junior, NBA GMs will see a guy that is still 20 years old on draft night with a ton of experience. Contrast that to a less experienced and 22-year-old Todd Mayo (if they both declared for 2013) and there are definitely some factors in Blue's favor.

Not certain either would get drafted, but with a good year, either of them could, even if in the second round.

[foreverwarriors]

Johnson to announce at 12pm EST today. 

Not sure where you got that from...Juan tweeted yesterday evening that he's announcing at 1pm...I'd guess Central time since he's in Memphis.

https://twitter.com/chosenJAUN/status/264156352945983489

[Lighthouse 84]

If your toddler isn't reading Goodnight Moon by himself by 4 years old, do you close down the 529 and buy him a mop & bucket?

Yes

[ceh]

hmm...I think you guys are saying the same thing 

Not sure where you got that from...Juan tweeted yesterday evening that he's announcing at 1pm...I'd guess Central time since he's in Memphis.

https://twitter.com/chosenJAUN/status/264156352945983489

[Silkk the Shaka]

hmm...I think you guys are saying the same thing 

1 pm Central is 2 pm Eastern, not 12.

[4everwarriors]

All you cats earned an MU degree?

[Jay Bee]

All you cats earned an MU degree?

I'm thinking there are a lot of liberal arts guys posting in this thread.  (Plus, I hear we're a middle of the road school anyway.)

[Dawson Rental]

Buzz is bringing in up to four players for the 1-3 positions. There are only two (1-3's) scheduled to graduate. It seems obvious to me that Buzz expects someone else to leave who plays 1-3 postions. I think Blue wants to be done and the better the year he has the more likely he is gone. One has to question whether Mayo comes back. I would love to get Johnson and Embiid. It would not surprise me to see Otule on next year's team, even if we got Johnson and Embiid.

I don't think that Dawson would have been recruited if T. J. Taylor hadn't left.  I think Dawson got T.J.'s spot.

[foreverwarriors]

hmm...I think you guys are saying the same thing 

*sigh*

[4everwarriors]

I'm thinking there are a lot of liberal arts guys posting in this thread.  (Plus, I hear we're a middle of the road school anyway.)

Validated

[jsglow]

Be interesting to know if kids typically put in a call to the respective coaches in the hour before the announcement.  As a parent, I'd want my son/daughter to make the appropriate telephone calls before the public announcement.

[martyconlonontherun]

Exactly.  Don't sell these kids short because they haven't yet fulfilled your expectations or their potential.  Kids grow, mature, improve, etc.

If your toddler isn't reading Goodnight Moon by himself by 4 years old, do you close down the 529 and buy him a mop & bucket?  If MUScoop was a perfect sample of the population, we'd be the dumbest - though cleanest - nation on the planet.

There's a huge difference between saying someone will never make the NBA to saying someone probably won't. We weren't talking about Blue, but rather MU's planning to oversign based on player's leaving for the draft. My parent's never discouraged me from aiming for the NBA, but they also didn't plan their mortgages around it either.