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esotericmindguy

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 01, 2012, 01:00:44 PM
Yeah, I remember how when the Fab Five came to Michigan everyone worried/bitched about the unbalanced class size. Sheesh.

Great comparison Lenny, well thought out. Chris Webber was ranked #1, Juwan Howard was ranked #3, Jalen Rose was ranked #6, Jimmy King was ranked #9. Not bitching, just saying.

Pakuni

Quote from: esotericmindguy on November 01, 2012, 01:42:19 PM
Great comparison Lenny, well thought out. Chris Webber was ranked #1, Juwan Howard was ranked #3, Jalen Rose was ranked #6, Jimmy King was ranked #9. Not bitching, just saying.

No love for Ray Jackson?

chapman

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Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 01, 2012, 01:00:44 PM
Yeah, I remember how when the Fab Five came to Michigan everyone worried/bitched about the unbalanced class size. Sheesh.

Agree it's not a big deal, aside from being cute balanced classes do nothing but signal impending imbalance.  It would be five freshmen, with maybe 1% odds of all five being at MU for exactly four years.  Eventually you'll have a transfer, early entrant, or injury redshirt and it's moot.

Quote from: Bieberhole69 on November 01, 2012, 01:41:34 PM
My guess would be that Dawson doesn't make it to campus.

Or someone else doesn't make it to campus.  Or someone goes pro.  Or someone transfers.  Or Otule doesn't come back.  Or Buzz adopts someone.  About 7 months away for speculation on names to have any meaning.  There isn't anyone 100% back next year or 100% leaving aside from Cadougan and Lockett.

brewcity77

Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on November 01, 2012, 01:08:14 PMWhen is Embiid supposed to make a decision?

Embiid has said he wants to sign in the early signing period. The early period runs from November 14 to November 21. So at the latest, he will decide by November 21.

If we can get Johnson, we take him. No questions asked. Johnson is a consensus top-100 recruit and would give us (as of right now) three RSCI top-60 players. As we have learned in recent years, some guys never make it to campus. Some guys transfer. Some guys (not here, but maybe next year) declare early for the draft. Some guys (again, not here, but not impossible) manage to pay their own way. We should take Johnson and if we can get Embiid, we take him too. Here's a look at the 2013 scholarship table:

Freshmen: Deonte Burton, Duane Wilson, John Dawson
Sophomores: Steve Taylor, Jamal Ferguson
Juniors: Jameel McKay, Derrick Wilson, Juan Anderson, Todd Mayo
Seniors: Davante Gardner, Vander Blue, Jamil Wilson

That leaves one opening, with Otule, Johnson, and Embiid all potentially in the fold. As we've seen in recent years, someone will likely transfer. A studly season from Jamil, Todd (especially considering his age), or Vander could see them test the NBA waters. I'm sure that Buzz already has a decent idea on how things are going to go. That's why he's continuing to recruit both of these guys. Because he knows more than we do.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Bieberhole69 on November 01, 2012, 01:41:34 PM
My guess would be that Dawson doesn't make it to campus.

Let the kid sign his LOI before you throw him under the bus, okay?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Bieberhole69

Quote from: LittleMurs on November 01, 2012, 02:02:16 PM
Let the kid sign his LOI before you throw him under the bus, okay?

Ha how did I throw him under the bus??  I'm just speculating, the same way everyone else does around here.  I hope Dawson makes it MU and is a great player, I just wouldn't be surprised if he never made it to MU.

mu03eng

I rest my case with the last 10 posts in this thread, we have 7 months to decide and what I think will be an incredible MU season to play and we're already speculating as to who won't be here.

I agree you bring in the best talent and let 'em fight it out.  I'm all for it.  However, the perception is probably not one that sits well with the current administration.  Just provides an opportunity for yet more friction.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

Lennys Tap

Quote from: esotericmindguy on November 01, 2012, 01:42:19 PM
Great comparison Lenny, well thought out. Chris Webber was ranked #1, Juwan Howard was ranked #3, Jalen Rose was ranked #6, Jimmy King was ranked #9. Not bitching, just saying.

The point wasn't that these guys were ranked as high as the Fab 5. The point was that when you can get an elite class (and for us, this would be), only a true curmudgeon would complain that it makes us unbalanced.

GGGG

Quote from: mu03eng on November 01, 2012, 02:20:40 PM
I rest my case with the last 10 posts in this thread, we have 7 months to decide and what I think will be an incredible MU season to play and we're already speculating as to who won't be here.

I agree you bring in the best talent and let 'em fight it out.  I'm all for it.  However, the perception is probably not one that sits well with the current administration.  Just provides an opportunity for yet more friction.


I am 100% sure that Buzz is doing this completely with his bosses backing.

esotericmindguy

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 01, 2012, 02:28:52 PM
The point wasn't that these guys were ranked as high as the Fab 5. The point was that when you can get an elite class (and for us, this would be), only a true curmudgeon would complain that it makes us unbalanced.

Hey d*pshit, I'm not complaining...and it's exactly the point, no one expected to Weber or Howard to stay more than a year.

KenoshaWarrior

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 01, 2012, 12:42:51 PM
Man, I'm concerned now for Kenosha Warriors' well-being. He's down at Potawatomi as we type mortgaging the crib on Johnson signin' with the Tide. Anyone got his cell number?

Dude if this is true Im really happy about this but from what everyone said in regards to his visit it did not sound like he had a good time.  Thank goodness that was incorrect.

GGGG

Quote from: esotericmindguy on November 01, 2012, 02:37:12 PM
Hey d*pcrap, I'm not complaining...and it's exactly the point, no one expected to Weber or Howard to stay more than a year.

Actually, that isn't entirely true.  Underclassmen leaving early for the draft was a relatively new idea in the early 90s.  Most of the talk was that they would be together for four years.

As it was, Webber left after two years.  Howard and Rose after three.

KenoshaWarrior

Quote from: Groin_pull on November 01, 2012, 01:08:19 PM
I couldn't care less what other fans have to say. Let me repeat: I could not care less.
agree!

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 01, 2012, 01:16:46 PM
JJJ has said he will verbal and not sign till Spring. Otule's schollie is not officially taken by him till he appeals and wins. MU can legally oversign one now.  So Buzz must know something internally.  There could be a world of possibilities like a millionaire NBA brother or sponsor picking up a tab.  May not be likely, but possible, and I am sure all will be speculated on.  I doubt Fr. Pilarz and LW would allow anything else but "on the up and up".

Not to add fuel to the fire, but CTC has two overcommits already for next season and is working on his third with BeeJay Anya.

I was asked on PM who CTC is...that would be Coach Tom Crean as the Hoosier base affectionately calls their fearless leader.  And I will note that I am a little behind and CTC has moved on from BeeJay Anya to Noah Vonleh in the last day.  Plenty of room in Bloomington.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170&f=2353&t=10280042

4everwarriors

CTC will find a way to soil his undergarment, one way or another.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

bilsu

Quote from: Bieberhole69 on November 01, 2012, 01:41:34 PM
My guess would be that Dawson doesn't make it to campus.
Buzz made several trips to New Mexico to recruit him, so I expect him to be here. I do not expect Blue to be here next year.

Tugg Speedman

We are all guesses who gets voted off the island for make room for the new recruits.  Why is it a starter that leaves (Blue, Otule).  Why not a non-starter like SW, JA or JF?

See I can make up stuff too!

Lennys Tap

Quote from: esotericmindguy on November 01, 2012, 02:37:12 PM
Hey d*pcrap, I'm not complaining...and it's exactly the point, no one expected to Weber or Howard to stay more than a year.

Really? No one? And yet Weber stayed two years and Howard three. Well, maybe no one you knew.

Goose

I definitely do not expect to see Blue here next year.

Tugg Speedman


Pakuni

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on November 01, 2012, 03:13:27 PM
Why?

Maybe he's leaving with Buzz?
Buzz sure is recruiting a good class for the next coach.

Goose

I have heard that Blue wants to play professionally after this season.

Rubie Q

Quote from: Goose on November 01, 2012, 03:18:21 PM
I have heard that Blue wants to play professionally after this season.

We talkin' NBA here, or "anywhere that'll pay him to play"?

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Goose on November 01, 2012, 03:18:21 PM
I have heard that Blue wants to play professionally after this season.

In the association?  Unless he has a breakout season, he's not getting drafted.

Ellenson Guerrero

"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

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