Larry Williams: We need to avoid becoming Penn State

[Lennys Tap]

I see Buzz as a fallible human being who is a really good coach, a true spiritual successor to Al.       I see Larry Williams as the unholy offspring of a mating between Bob Dukiet and Matt Millen.   

Dead right on Buzz. I fear you'll prove right on LW.

[real chili 83]

LW strikes me as the kinda guy who is book smart, can spew the proper quotes from his text book,  flaunts his pedigree, but doesn't understand that we are all laughing at him because he has no credibility.  

[forgetful]

LW strikes me as the kinda guy who is book smart, can spew the proper quotes from his text books, flaunt his pedigree, but is doesnt understand that we are all laughing at him because he has no credibility. 

I think you give him too much credit.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

So, when I or others who share my conclusions interpret his words we are biased. When you and others of your ilk do the same you're being objective. How fortunate for you and the other clear headed, fair minded people who share your opinion. Talk about bias....

Just food for thought, but it doesn't seem like there is a Anti-Larry vs Pro-Larry thing going on here.

It's more like "Larry is terrible!" vs "Larry seems qualified.(?)"

I don't recall anybody coming out and saying Larry is great and Buzz is an terrible.

Now, that doesn't mean both "sides" don't have their inherent biases, but it's something to consider when we divide people into "groups".

[JoBo2756]

the cult of Buzz makes me really uncomfortable.

+1

What will this board look like when the inevitable happens? A silly little article like this hits which is actually very positive for Marquette and men's basketball and people start freaking out about nothing. When Buzz leaves in two years, I'll most likely deactivate my account as the foaming at the mouth and hyperventilating will be too much to handle.

Let's get a grip people. It's amateur athletics and haven't won a championship in 35 years.

[Skatastrophy]

Let's get a grip people. It's amateur athletics and haven't won a championship in 35 years.

LALALALALA

[JoBo2756]

LALALALALA

+1 thanks.

[Eye]

Random thoughts after reading the article.

Article seems written to please a specific audience - professors and administrators.

Penn State reference was way over the top.

Reminds me a lot of dealing with uncompromising state high school administrators. The school administrators and members of the media who are cut from the same cloth like them very much. The public-at-large? Not so much.

A lot of politically-correct stuff in there. If you disagree with the overbearing tone that seems to come across, you're anti-kids and anti-doing it the right way. In a perfect world, MU would have 13 players who all get 4.0s, stay out of trouble and play in the NBA. But if I I have to drop one of those standards to a reasonable level, I'll take the GPA dropping to 2.5 if they're out of trouble and high-level D1 basketball players. The first one is great to strive for in principle. The concern of some is that we keep the GPA high in lieu of average students who are high-level D1 basketball players.

I don't want MU to be Butler. MU is in the Big East. I have no problem with MU being seen as the Villanova of the Midwest, a high-level basketball team that could win another title someday, with a high-level coach, players who go to class the vast majority of the time and players who stay out of major trouble with the occassional minor trouble that all college students seem to get into at times.

Also seems like a guy who tries to win press conferences.

Why is it the job of Larry Williams to decide what the biggest day of my life is? For some people, it'd be that basketball game. For others, it'd be getting married, having childen and graduating from college. But that's not for him to decide. It's my personal choice.

Change the names and the places and I'd hope this article could be written about whoever is MU's AD. The article implies that the background of Williams is one that's unique. It's not. You could write the same article about thousands of other equally-qualified people in the US.

I talked to the AD at Viterbo, an NAIA school in La Crosse, for about an hour a few weeks ago. His department has if I recall the number he gave me correctly 282 players in 17 different sports. I'd have more confidence in him running MU's athletic department and how it relates to the basketball program right now, and that's not good.

[GGGG]

I talked to the AD at Viterbo, an NAIA school in La Crosse, for about an hour a few weeks ago. His department has if I recall the number he gave me correctly 282 players in 17 different sports. I'd have more confidence in him running MU's athletic department and how it relates to the basketball program right now, and that's not good.

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I talked to the AD at Viterbo, an NAIA school in La Crosse, for about an hour a few weeks ago. His department has if I recall the number he gave me correctly 282 players in 17 different sports. I'd have more confidence in him running MU's athletic department and how it relates to the basketball program right now, and that's not good.

I understand some people don't like Larry, but let's not get retarded over him. This is just insanely idiotic.

[Skatastrophy]

I understand some people don't like Larry, but let's not get retarded over him. This is just insanely idiotic.

+1

I can't wait until the season starts and we start talking about basketball instead of internal MU politics.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Why is it the job of Larry Williams to decide what the biggest day of my life is? For some people, it'd be that basketball game.

I had the exact same thought. I am married and have three kids. I can confidently say that if I had played in the NCAA championship it'd be the most memorable...and possibly the most important...day of my life. To say otherwise is a cliche. The fact that Butler made those kids go to class that day is absurd, overbearing and pious as hell.

Lets put it another way...was Obama's election the biggest day of his life or was it his wedding day?

[4everwarriors]

One can always get another wife.

[real chili 83]

It speaks volumes about our AD that we have a 4 page thread about the AD.

[ATL MU Warrior]

It speaks volumes about our AD that we have a 4 page thread about the AD.

Actually, it speaks volumes about those that spend their time on here.  It says nothing about the AD.

[Marqevans]

LW strikes me as the kinda guy who is book smart, can spew the proper quotes from his text book,  flaunts his pedigree, but doesn't understand that we are all laughing at him because he has no credibility.  

But he played football for ND, everyone knows back then football players didn't have to study.

[Lennys Tap]

Why is it the job of Larry Williams to decide what the biggest day of my life is? For some people, it'd be that basketball game. For others, it'd be getting married, having childen and graduating from college. But that's not for him to decide. It's my personal choice.

In August before my sophomore year at MU I played in the championship game of the American Legion World Series. That day was much more important to me than my graduation (a foregone conclusion) 3+years later. But again, I never had my stuff together like LW. Had he been there to make me a better, more mature person I'm sure I'd see things his way.

[KenoshaWarrior]

Even using the Words "Penn State" in the article is trying to evoke a certain type of feeling. I understand what he means in regards to having to control a situation and having some recourse but to use the words Penn State just gives the average reader bad vibes.