The Everlasting Craptastical Mystery Thread

[mr.MUskie]

Maybe he wants a school more in conformity with his religious beliefs.  Are Methodists Christians?

No, they're like Mormons.

[avid1010]

"I'll be here as long as MU has me" etc. (I'm paraphrasing).

i'm still not sure this is a lie...the odds aren't pretty knowing what most college coaches are about but...

[warthog-driver]

Maybe he wants a school more in conformity with his religious beliefs.  Are Methodists Christians?

Kind of. They don't have our sense of intense shame, lack Baptists self-righteousness, and are generally balse about faith in general. Methodists are constantly looking at their watch during service, hoping to have 15 minutes on the putting green before their tee time.

[Goose]

Warthog
You know your history very well. I agree with similarities and differences between Al and Buzz. Al did not hide his ego which I loved and Buzz tries to hard to hide it. Say it again, his smirk after dance said a thousand words to me.

Avid
I still think admin screwed it up or will screw it up. But, I do think that if they have legit concerns about the character of the program they have right to protect he brand. I said last month that if they have dirt on program they should air it out and if not let things roll. Maybe they have dirt and it is different dirt than most think it is, maybe they are worried for things to come out.

[Hoopaloop]

2002
Two month ago I called Buzz slippery and got bashed for it. If anyone really believe in "awe shucks" is an easy sale. When Buzz smirked after his dance it showed a side of him I really liked. I think he is shrewd, calculating person that knows how to butter his own bread. I believe he cares about the kids, similar to Al, but also similar to Al, he knows how to watch out for himself. I think more Dallas in Uncle Buzz than Cowpoke, Texas.

Only the totally in love, koolaid I.V. users believe in the Awe Shucks stuff.  He knows what he is doing.  Buzz is a smart guy.

SMU sinking a ton of money into their program is no surprise.  The money down there is endless.  Now time to see if it translates into wins and losses, but the commitment will be there as they don't want to get clobbered in the Big East.  They view this as an opportunity.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Buzz is a personality, and given how hard the dude has scraped to get here, I'm sure he enjoys the ego boost of the spotlight.

More power to him... until he leaves MU. Then I will start threads hating on him for 5+ years.

[WI inferiority Complexes]

So, this King guy reported basically nothing, and then got people to discuss it?  Sounds like he works in the media.

[Dawson Rental]

SMU spending $$$$, Memphis coming in.  Looks like The Beast will be okay without Pitt and 'Cuse after all.

[warthog-driver]

No, they're like Mormons.

Clearly you do not live out west. I am surrounded by Moes. Moes are insidious. The bottom line with them is that you are either with 'em or agin 'em. Sure, they smile and are polite but they register the fundamental fact that you are not a Moe. They take over school boards here. Buddies of mine who fly for Delta live in Sodom & Gomorrah (Park City, Utah) rather than SLC due to the incredible hold of the LDS community. The billboards saying, "Honor our Pioneer Heritage" is code for many things.

Methodists, on the other hand, are the most ecumenical of faiths. They call up the Catholic parish and suggest a joint Easter Egg hunt. They have Passover/Easter dinners with the local temple.

[muhoosier260]

Kind of. They don't have our sense of intense shame, lack Baptists self-righteousness, and are generally balse about faith in general. Methodists are constantly looking at their watch during service, hoping to have 15 minutes on the putting green before their tee time.

Catholics having a holier than thou attitude? That's a first.

[Goose]

2002
I won't hate Buzz if/when he leaves. Really have gotten a kick out of his shtick and style of play. Well, I guess the death penalty could make me angry with him, but not hate him. He is a character and probably rubs some folks the wrong way. No matter what happens I am a Buzz guy.

[avid1010]

Al did but people might not know he tried to leave for the Bucks HC job but Fr Raynor held him to his contract. Al's comment was that, "The Jesuit Fathers take their vows of poverty very seriously and expect you to live by them."

as i've been told by others al also told his players to take the dang money if they could get it because he'd do the same.  i appreciate honesty.  heck i can even appreciate when a coach like huggins says he isn't worried about graduation rates, he just coaches and lets the academic people handle graduation.  i may not like it, but he's being honest about how he runs his program.  

if buzz is preaching morals and character while bs'ing about wanting to be at mu until they kick him out that's a heck of a lot different than al saying "take the money, i would" and then chasing after a higher paying nba gig.

[mr.MUskie]

Clearly you do not live out west.

It was a poor attempt at connecting to the "Mormons ain't Christians.  I ain't votin' for no Mormon" we hear on the news, especially from Southern Baptist-types.

[warthog-driver]

Catholics having a holier than thou attitude? That's a first.

Catholics I know tend to be much more open to diversity of religious thought and expression. Moes don't. Nor do Baptists. And certainly the fundamental denominations make Hitler look like a free speech advocate.

[rocky_warrior]

As goose, myself and others stated early on, this was closer than a lot of people are now stating it was. Turns out people were not reporting false rumors.

BS.  Always was, and still is wild speculation.

[GGGG]

BS.  Always was, and still is wild speculation.

Keep burying your head in the sand.  Doesn't bother me. 

I mean we have a reputable source saying he came close to taking it...but no...nothing to see here.  Move along.

[jficke13]

BS.  Always was, and still is wild speculation.

Agreed. Clowns on ESPN report possible moves, contracts, etc... all the time citing "sources." If it turns out that they were "almost right" that doesn't mean they didn't just make it up in the first place.

[The Process]

Before I pull out the good ol':



I'm curious to see which camp gave King that info.  Was it from the SMU side or was it someone close to Buzz?

[rocky_warrior]

Keep burying your head in the sand.  Doesn't bother me. 

Keep claiming you're right, when there are no facts to back you up.  Doesn't bother me, or mean that you're right.

[Goose]

Rocky
If you believe it is or was non story I am in shock.

[WI inferiority Complexes]

I'm curious to see which camp gave King that info.  Was it from the SMU side or was it someone close to Buzz?

What info?

[muhoosier260]

Catholics I know tend to be much more open to diversity of religious thought and expression. Moes don't. Nor do Baptists. And certainly the fundamental denominations make Hitler look like a free speech advocate.

I was referring mostly to your allegation that Methodists are "kind of" Christians. There's no place on this board for that, or judging Mormons or Baptists, or any religion.

[Goose]

Sultan
Sad thing is I really wish we were wrong. Any naysayers have not stated one thing factual to prove our claims false, yet they stick with their opinion. You and I took heat for our comments based off sources and are told we are wrong....disappointing that a group of adults would lack the reasoning that we had nothing to gain from our posts. Big Daddy gets jerked off for stating DG had jersey backed after his 19 post and you would have thought he cured cancer. Funny thing is Big Daddy says one thing in forum and another off camera.

[Dawson Rental]

What info?

That Buzz backed out of taking the SMU job at the last minute.

[warthog-driver]

as i've been told by others al also told his players to take the dang money if they could get it because he'd do the same.  i appreciate honesty.  heck i can even appreciate when a coach like huggins says he isn't worried about graduation rates, he just coaches and lets the academic people handle graduation.  i may not like it, but he's being honest about how he runs his program.  

if buzz is preaching morals and character while bs'ing about wanting to be at mu until they kick him out that's a heck of a lot different than al saying "take the money, i would" and then chasing after a higher paying nba gig.

A group of us were at The Rock last night and found ourselves seated next to John Clayton from ESPN and Jen Mueller from Fox NW. Clayton said the Pack will add some defenseive talent and should get to the SB.  Mueller really knows her college hoops and knew a lot about MU - she said Buzz is great, Crowder and DJO didn't deliver in the tourney, etc...Turns out her cousins went to MU as did her mother.

Anyhow, she went to SMU and knew all about the Buzz to Dallas deal. She said Buzz responded immediately to the overture and was extremely keen on the opportunity. She said she was told that Buzz didn't want 3 years of rebuilding arse pain. She claims to have spoken with Vaught on the search and SMU really wanted Buzz. Evidently, Craig James has given a buttload of money for this effort as has the Hunt family.