The Everlasting Craptastical Mystery Thread

[DienerTime34]

Unless he was physically in the room or literally on the phone at the same time as Buzz and SMU, there's no way he knows this except hearing it secondhand. Now it's being reported as fact, and soon a 10,000 page thread will result on MUScoop. I suppose now you all believe in snarks and grumpkins as well.

[real chili 83]

25 days to the opener.

Maybe 18!

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Maybe 18!

Not looking good for that.

[real chili 83]

Not looking good for that.

Red Wing is open!  St. Croix and WI open in 18.  PD Pappys opens then too.

[Goose]

Buzz was never was going to SMU unless relieved of his duties here. Power play on his part to say two can play the power play game. When all said and done an ugly situation got uglier.

[avid1010]

SMU will be a doormat in the BE, a doormat for at least 5 years.  Would he have even lasted that long.

Larry Brown bringing in Howard and Rod Strickland (assistant at Kentucky) will maybe help with recruiting, but it will take a long time.  

not sure about that.  those two are already great recruiters, and they're now recruiting for a nba coach.  it will take a few years to get talent, but they have a structure and long-term plan that is going to be attractive to recruits. 

[warthog-driver]

not sure about that.  those two are already great recruiters, and they're now recruiting for a nba coach.  it will take a few years to get talent, but they have a structure and long-term plan that is going to be attractive to recruits. 

Don't they have a lot of money, too? Not just money but earl money

[avid1010]

Red Wing is open!  St. Croix and WI open in 18.  PD Pappys opens then too.

lake winnebago never closes and the walleyes are going good...

[nyg]

not sure about that.  those two are already great recruiters, and they're now recruiting for a nba coach.  it will take a few years to get talent, but they have a structure and long-term plan that is going to be attractive to recruits. 

Yes a few years, like five.  Agree with the NBA coach aspect, National Championship, etc. and having Howard and Strickland helps, but SMU sucked in CUSA and now they are going up against the big boys.  Lets see what top 100 recruits in the class of 2013 start signing on the dotted line, or even if the Dallas/Houston talent start peeking interest.  Major rebuild and I hope it does work out since they just joined the BE.

[warthog-driver]

Yes a few years, like five.  Agree with the NBA coach aspect, National Championship, etc. and having Howard and Strickland helps, but SMU sucked in CUSA and now they are going up against the big boys.  Lets see what top 100 recruits in the class of 2013 start signing on the dotted line, or even if the Dallas/Houston talent start peeking interest.  Major rebuild and I hope it does work out since they just joined the BE.

SMU is all in. Make no mistake. They intend to win.

[GGGG]

As goose, myself and others stated early on, this was closer than a lot of people are now stating it was. Turns out people were not reporting false rumors.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

From what I heard I think Buzz liked the social status attaching to the SMU job. That school carries a lot of weigt in Texas, especially Dallas

I don't doubt this, but this doesn't match the "aw shucks, it's just about the kids" type of stuff we have been hearing does it?

Still glad he is at MU.

[RushmoreAcademy]

 Major rebuild and I hope it does work out since they just joined the BE.

+1 on this.  Was less than thrilled when the original report of them joining the conf came out, but the news is promising.

[warthog-driver]

I don't doubt this, but this doesn't match the "aw shucks, it's just about the kids" type of stuff we have been hearing does it?

I think we now know that Buzz' good ole boy personae is his schtick. It's pure bull.

Of course, Al had his schtick which we found endearing

[MuMark]

Looks like some people owe IWB an apology......


I won't hold my breath.

[Goose]

2002
Two month ago I called Buzz slippery and got bashed for it. If anyone really believe in "awe shucks" is an easy sale. When Buzz smirked after his dance it showed a side of him I really liked. I think he is shrewd, calculating person that knows how to butter his own bread. I believe he cares about the kids, similar to Al, but also similar to Al, he knows how to watch out for himself. I think more Dallas in Uncle Buzz than Cowpoke, Texas.

[madtownwarrior]

most country boy "aw shucks" personas I have run across have turned out to be quite the opposite.   

would like to think Buzz is different but he is too sharp and sure knows what he is doing to be a country bumpkin..

[avid1010]

i'm too young to have seen al coach, but i spent some time (probably a whole 10 hours total) with him watching tc's practices and at other places.  i guess i'm with goose.  i believe buzz and al both care about their kids, but i see a difference in the way they approach the question of their job.  al would always say "take the money," but it was a different time.  i see buzz saying he'll be at mu as long as they will have him.  i'm not sure if the smu thought was out of mu no longer wanting him, or his wanting to leave, but i hope his country boy theme doesn't play out in the same manner as brett farve.  

goose, what made you change your mind on how administration handled/viewed this situation?

[warthog-driver]

We ought not be surprised when he does a runner. Course he might just stay the course with MU. Al did but people might not know he tried to leave for the Bucks HC job but Fr Raynor held him to his contract. Al's comment was that, "The Jesuit Fathers take their vows of poverty very seriously and expect you to live by them."

Big difference between Al and Buzz, in my opinion? Al was Irish Catholic through and through and the Church meant a great deal. (And he was pre-Vatican 2!) It was an essential element of who and what he was. When a priest spoke, Al listened. When he saw a nun he immediately had a surge of guilt.

Buzz doesn't have that heritage. Sure, he says he's religious but he ain't Irish Catholic religious. Huge difference.

[wildbill sb]

People, people, people, all of this belongs over on the Lunardi thread, otherwise we'll never reach the 103 page mark.  Right?  So, come on let's work together as a team as we strive to reach new heights.

[Dawson Rental]

Unless he was physically in the room or literally on the phone at the same time as Buzz and SMU, there's no way he knows this except hearing it secondhand. Now it's being reported as fact, and soon a 10,000 page thread will result on MUScoop. I suppose now you all believe in snarks and grumpkins as well.

No, but occasionally on camping trips, I stand up against a tree holding a bag open on the ground waiting for a snipe to run into it.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I agree that the aww shucks stuff is an act, and I'm cool with that. The dude is sly like a fox.

However, I've heard/read people heaping praise upon him for years saying that "he's different", "he's 100% truthful", "it's not an act" "I'll be here as long as MU has me" etc. (I'm paraphrasing).

I don't want to start a sh*tfight about this, I just hope everybody has their eyes open now.

Buzz is a good coach, and appears to be a good guy. But, his employment will last until:

A. He finds a gig he likes better or wants more
B. MU is unhappy with his performance (on or off the court)

I know this seems blatantly obvious, but that's my point. No need to romanticize it. Let's just call it what it is. Buzz is a basketball mercenary. I'm glad we have him.

[Dawson Rental]

From what I heard I think Buzz liked the social status attaching to the SMU job. That school carries a lot of weigt in Texas, especially Dallas

Maybe he wants a school more in conformity with his religious beliefs.  Are Methodists Christians?

[mr.MUskie]

People, people, people, all of this belongs over on the Lunardi thread, otherwise we'll never reach the 103 page mark.  Right?  So, come on let's work together as a team as we strive to reach new heights.

don't worry, the mods will start combining threads soon.

[warthog-driver]

People, people, people, all of this belongs over on the Lunardi thread, otherwise we'll never reach the 103 page mark.  Right?  So, come on let's work together as a team as we strive to reach new heights.

I say we use the Scoop vs Scout thread. It already has a running start and what better irony than to post on another mega thread that Dodds would have shut down.

Oh the irony, Johnny Dodds!