So....What are we ranked on Monday - 1/6/2025?

[Galway Eagle]

most recent ranked #9;  Mar/2012,  Mar/2003,  Feb/2002,  Feb/1979
most recent ranked #8;  Feb/2012,  Jan-Feb/2009 (dropped lower after loss to South Florida), Nov-Dec/2006 (loss to North Dakota St), Mar/2003

last time higher than #8:
1978: ranked as high as #1 & with a low of #5

Not correct. There's a thread on here detailing it if you'd like to see

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Active winning streaks, active losing streaks, and conference standings, three things that don't factor into seeding, at least not officially. The only thing you listed that is an official criteria for selection is overall record, which is not one of the more significant factors.

You could also say the following about a UT team that loses out and an MU team that wins out:

"That's crazy talk. A Marquette team with a lower NET, lower non-conference SOS, lower overall SOS, only 5 Q1 regular seasons wins, only 1 of which was away from Fiserv Forum, and a home loss to Wisconsin (either a low Q2 or Q3) isn't getting seeded over a Texas team with a higher NET, higher non-conference SOS, higher overall SOS, 10 Q1 wins, 4 of which were on the road, whose worst loss is on the road to #54 Texas Tech (Q1)...

The difference between the two statements is that the second only accounts for factors considered by the selection committee.

I'm not knocking us. I'm not saying Texas is a better team. But by this point in the season the resumes are 93% complete and the things that really move the needle are wins against Q1 opponents or losses against Q3/Q4 opponents. Texas only has Q1 opportunities left meaning they can only go up. Marquette only has Q2/Q3 opportunities left meaning we can only go down.

Texas is a fine team, but it's not like their metrics are vastly superior to ours. They're 10 in the NET right now and we're 13. They do have the benefit of having a ton of Q1 opportunities in the Big12, but it's not like their winning % in such contests is vastly superior. We did lose an OT game to a mediocre Wisconsin team, but they lost an OT game to a mediocre Illinois team.

As much as the committee likes to suggest seeding is a strict science, they aren't giving UT a 2 seed if they flame out down the stretch and I'll be mighty surprised if we win out and are placed on the 3 line. The NET says SMC and UConn are both two seeds, but at some point human common sense overrides the computer logic.

[The Sultan]

Texas is a fine team, but it's not like their metrics are vastly superior to ours. They're 10 in the NET right now and we're 13. They do have the benefit of having a ton of Q1 opportunities in the Big12, but it's not like their winning % in such contests is vastly superior. We did lose an OT game to a mediocre Wisconsin team, but they lost an OT game to a mediocre Illinois team.

As much as the committee likes to suggest seeding is a strict science, they aren't giving UT a 2 seed if they flame out down the stretch and I'll be mighty surprised if we win out and are placed on the 3 line. The NET says SMC and UConn are both two seeds, but at some point human common sense overrides the computer logic.

You don't seem to understand what TAMU is saying. He may agree with your first paragraph. But the post he replied to was full of criteria the committee doesn't use.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

You don't seem to understand what TAMU is saying. He may agree with your first paragraph. But the post he replied to was full of criteria the committee doesn't use.

My point is that they do use those criteria even if they say they don't. The committee can act like they're robots all they want, they're still going to discount teams that have lost a lot recently and boost teams that head into the tournment on a winning streak. It's only human nature and it makes sense when teams are roughly equal in terms of overall resume.

[MuMark]

My point is that they do use those criteria even if they say they don't. The committee can act like they're robots all they want, they're still going to discount teams that have lost a lot recently and boost teams that head into the tournment on a winning streak. It's only human nature and it makes sense when teams are roughly equal in terms of overall resume.

Presented without evidence.......just because you are convinced they use the criteria you mentioned doesn't mean they do.

[SaveOD238]

most recent ranked #9;  Mar/2012,  Mar/2003,  Feb/2002,  Feb/1979
most recent ranked #8;  Feb/2012,  Jan-Feb/2009 (dropped lower after loss to South Florida), Nov-Dec/2006 (loss to North Dakota St), Mar/2003

last time higher than #8:
1978: ranked as high as #1 & with a low of #5

WHEN we return to #1, it will be the longest drought between #1 rankings in AP poll history, over 45 years. (Ohio State had a 45 year streak between '62 and '07)

[Heisenberg]

most recent ranked #9;  Mar/2012,  Mar/2003,  Feb/2002,  Feb/1979
most recent ranked #8;  Feb/2012,  Jan-Feb/2009 (dropped lower after loss to South Florida), Nov-Dec/2006 (loss to North Dakota St), Mar/2003

last time higher than #8:
1978: ranked as high as #1 & with a low of #5

In 2019 I started an entire thread detailing MU's top 10 rankings. I've been updating it since.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=64197.0

I will update it again tomorrow when the rankings are out.

In the meantime, I added this earlier today in anticipation of a #8 or better ranking.

The last time MU was ranked better than 8th was March 6, 1978, when they were #3 (FYI, February 20, 1978, MU was #1)

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/marquette/men/1978-schedule.html

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(Incidentally, the following week, MU lost in the first round of the NCAA to Miami (Ohio) in OT.

[TallTitan34]

If you go to www.muoverload.com under Team > Polls you will find every time MU has ever been in the AP poll. If you go to Team > Schedule (All-Time) you can see every game MU or an opponent has been ranked.

[Jay Bee]

Selection committee should be woke & punish Texas for Beard's behavior

[wadesworld]

Texas vs. Bama in an Elite 8 game would be enjoyable.

[willie warrior]

Texas vs. Bama in an Elite 8 game would be enjoyable.

Yes, The Battle of the Ethicals

[pbiflyer]

Texas vs. Bama in an Elite 8 game would be enjoyable.

Expecting a shootout? Texas to choke? 

[BLWarrior91]

CBS Sports' website has Marquette ranked 5th in their latest power poll!

I say we are 8th in the AP poll.

As far as getting to the 2 seed line, we would need to beat UConn and Creighton in the BET to have a shot at moving up OR some of the teams ahead of us have some bad losses this week or in their conference tournaments. 

If we keep winning anything can happen.

[YoungMUFan4]

Borges has MU 6th

https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/uconn-mens-basketball/article/david-borges-uconn-men-make-big-jump-ap-top-25-17807098.php

[Dickthedribbler]

In 2019 I started an entire thread detailing MU's top 10 rankings. I've been updating it since.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=64197.0

I will update it again tomorrow when the rankings are out.

In the meantime, I added this earlier today in anticipation of a #8 or better ranking.

The last time MU was ranked better than 8th was March 6, 1978, when they were #3 (FYI, February 20, 1978, MU was #1)

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/marquette/men/1978-schedule.html

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(Incidentally, the following week, MU lost in the first round of the NCAA to Miami (Ohio) in OT.

Not your fault, but you just gave me a migraine with your mention of that 1978 Miami (OH) game.

[TallTitan34]

Borges has MU 6th

https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/uconn-mens-basketball/article/david-borges-uconn-men-make-big-jump-ap-top-25-17807098.php

His Marquette description, in an article written today, says "Big East regular season title looking very likely."

[YoungMUFan4]

His Marquette description, in an article written today, says "Big East regular season title looking very likely."

Even worse, it says

Marquette: First Big East regular season title looking very likely.

[wadesworld]

It's time for Scoop to get @ some people!

[4everwarriors]

Izant dat watt wee due everydey, hey?

[Daniel]

Not your fault, but you just gave me a migraine with your mention of that 1978 Miami (OH) game.

I was at that game n Indianapolis.  Ugh.  Some iffy calls at the end with Whitehead ejected.  Ha still remembering and complaining lol

[TallTitan34]

Even worse, it says

Marquette: First Big East regular season title looking very likely.

Milwaukee Bucks second World Championship also looking likely.

[Tyler COLEk]

If Marquette wins out through the BET, they will be an iron clad lock for a two-seed. They'll even get some minor attention as an oddball one-seed candidate. Feel free to pin this post up on your local community bulletin board for accountability.

[Pepe Sylvia]

I mean, it could happen. I've never seen it so I've been conditioned to expect good things not to happen. The baylor stomping helped remind me that good things are possible. Here's to hoping!

[Mu8891]

Two ...
You are correct.  If MU wins out
( unlikely ) they are absolutely a 2 seed. 

But, more likely they end up a 3

[82fanatic]

Two ...
You are correct.  If MU wins out
( unlikely ) they are absolutely a 2 seed. 

But, more likely they end up a 3

Improving on our last 3 seed results would be acceptable!