So....What are we ranked on Monday - 1/6/2025?

[MU82]

Thanks again 82.

While we are on the subject, does anyone know how the coaches are chosen who vote in the UPI poll? I'm guessing basically the same way as the AP, but is there a rotation system of some sort? Perhaps they have a vote for x number of years?

You're welcome. And I have no idea about how the coaches' poll works.

[brewcity77]

The MVSU error really wasn't that big a deal. It's happened before at least once, I believe more than once, where a team was in the vote mix because they were inaccurately chosen. At least this time they got it fixed, which didn't happen the last time I remember.

[MuMark]

https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-basketball-poll

[MU82]

Lose a road game in double-OT to a decent team, and drop like a stone.

Not sure if two wins this week will get us back into the top 25 or not ... but I'd sure like to find out!

[SaveOD238]

Lose a road game in double-OT to a decent team, and drop like a stone.

Not sure if two wins this week will get us back into the top 25 or not ... but I'd sure like to find out!

There's only one team with 4 losses in the top 25.  Most have two or fewer.  We have four, and even though they're all good losses, they still don't look great for us.  Most of the other "receiving votes" teams are all 3 or fewer losses too

[MU82]

There's only one team with 4 losses in the top 25.  Most have two or fewer.  We have four, and even though they're all good losses, they still don't look great for us.  Most of the other "receiving votes" teams are all 3 or fewer losses too

I'm not upset about it or surprised by it, so I hope that wasn't what I suggested.

Need to win to get back in. Hopefully we'll get to see if 2 victories this week will do the trick!

[PointWarrior]

We are #35!!

[GoldenEagles03]

Katz had us in his Top 25 last week and dropped us out of his Top 36 this week for losing to Providence.

The metrics like this team but the eyes don't.

[MuggsyB]

Katz had us in his Top 25 last week and dropped us out of his Top 36 this week for losing to Providence.

The metrics like this team but the eyes don't.

How relevant is the "Katz 36"?

[GoldenEagles03]

How relevant is the "Katz 36"?

Not sure but that's what he releases every week.

We need to win tomorrow because the stretch coming up is tough. Seton Hall lost by just 3 @ Xavier.  Gonna be a battle just like the rest!

[MuggsyB]

Not sure but that's what he releases every week.

We need to win tomorrow because the stretch coming up is tough. Seton Hall lost by just 3 @ Xavier.  Gonna be a battle just like the rest!

Absolutely have to win tomorrow.  End of discussion. 

[BM1090]

Not sure but that's what he releases every week.

We need to win tomorrow because the stretch coming up is tough. Seton Hall lost by just 3 @ Xavier.  Gonna be a battle just like the rest!

MU by double digits tomorrow.

[MU82]

The metrics like this team but the my eyes don't, which is why I picked Marquette to lose to Georgia Tech and saw no "realm" in which Marquette could possibly beat Baylor.

FIFY

[GoldenEagles03]

FIFY

Not sure what you're talking about.  I love this Marquette team.  I'm not sure how good they are but the team is awesome.  I don't think anyone has a grasp on how this team will finish. Could miss the tournament altogether, could be a 6 or 7 seed.  I'm just happy they've been enjoyable to watch and play hard.

[PointWarrior]

but is this a "must win"

Absolutely have to win tomorrow.  End of discussion.

[brewcity77]

I don't think anyone has a grasp on how this team will finish.

Top-4 in the Big East, single digit seed, which is what I wrote preseason. Just because you didn't recognize this was a good team doesn't mean no one saw this coming. This team is better than last year's team was, and the winning is more sustainable. All of which was visible in the preseason.

[withoutbias]

Top-4 in the Big East, single digit seed, which is what I wrote preseason. Just because you didn't recognize this was a good team doesn't mean no one saw this coming. This team is better than last year's team was, and the winning is more sustainable. All of which was visible in the preseason.

I'm fairness, a week ago your answer was top 2 in the Big East so that's already changed.

[Goose]

I think this team finishes in the top three of the BE. As brew stated, this team is better than last season and I think better built to avoid a sustained downturn. I am sticking with 12+ BE wins.

[Scoop Snoop]

I think this team finishes in the top three of the BE. As brew stated, this team is better than last season and I think better built to avoid a sustained downturn. I am sticking with 12+ BE wins.

I think this is very doable. As I have posted elsewhere, my expectation was BE #3 in Shaka's season 3. The team is better than last year, and Shaka is ahead of where I thought he would be this season. Maybe UCONN will be ranked #1 when they come to Milwaukee. A huge upset is not at all out of the question.

[panda]

My concerns of this team are still valid although less so than at the beginning of the year.

Chief concern is still a back up big who can spell oso. I don't see that as a quick fix and our best bet is to go small ball. Oso has done an awesome job of staying out of foul trouble but I really wonder how many minutes he can log without wearing down.

Secondly, we're seeing games slip away in the final minutes because and no one has stepped up to get a couple buckets in a row when we're losing a lead. This is less of a concern now for me than it was pre season. Kam, Omax, Tyler and oso each have that ability to either slow the game down and score or create for important buckets. The chances have been there in the close games but just can't convert.

There's going to be a lot of coin flip games with this team and with the parity in the league this season, I can't definitively say a top 4 finish is a lock. Nova is a different team with whitmore and will be a much different team with Moore (I have my doubts he'll be back/effective this year but the point stands). Creighton is still a very good team with kalkbrenner. We caught them at the right time otherwise he disrupts so much on their defensive end that I doubt we would've had our way with them. UConn is awesome and I think xavier is the second best team if not the best team in this conference IF (huge if) they can figure out how to guard anyone. 

[MU82]

Not sure what you're talking about.  I love this Marquette team.  I'm not sure how good they are but the team is awesome.  I don't think anyone has a grasp on how this team will finish. Could miss the tournament altogether, could be a 6 or 7 seed.  I'm just happy they've been enjoyable to watch and play hard.

You've said repeatedly that the team won't make the NCAA tournament. That prediction makes me feel pretty good, given some of your other iron-clad predictions.

I know, I know ... you hope you're wrong.

[rocket surgeon]

I think this team finishes in the top three of the BE. As brew stated, this team is better than last season and I think better built to avoid a sustained downturn. I am sticking with 12+ BE wins.

  i agree with this analysis!! 

[Uncle Rico]

  i agree with this analysis!!

Shocker

[MU82]

Chief concern is still a back up big who can spell oso. I don't see that as a quick fix and our best bet is to go small ball. Oso has done an awesome job of staying out of foul trouble but I really wonder how many minutes he can log without wearing down.

Oso is averaging 31 mpg. He'd be fine playing 5 more. He's 20 years old. College games are filled with long time-outs -- there's one of them every 4 minutes and a long halftime, and that doesn't even count TOs that teams call and the ridiculously long ones in the final 2 minutes on every remotely questionable out-of-bounds call. In the last 2 minutes of a close game, players get far more rest than they do action. Oso will be fine.

There will be a few games in which being too small could hurt Marquette, but very few. I do share your concern about foul trouble; as you say, so far Oso has been outstanding at avoiding it.

[rocket surgeon]

Shocker

  just like a cat playing with it's food-you are so damn predictable!  i almost left a side "love" note in there to see how long it would take geeko to respond...2 minutes 2' 38 seconds??  you're slipping geeko-hard to type with your left hand while your right one is "busy"??