So....What are we ranked on Monday - 1/6/2025?

[1SE]

I hope we get texas in the tourney and destroy them.

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/topic/19896-point-and-laugh-at-shaka-smart/page/11/#comments

[Avenue Commons]

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[tower912]

I hope we get texas in the tourney and destroy them.

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/topic/19896-point-and-laugh-at-shaka-smart/page/11/#comments

Shaka is money at MU right now.  It is a fact that his numbers at Texas were nearly identical to Wojo's at MU.   As we all know, that can lead to negative feelings.    I think that fit matters and that MU is a much better fit for Shaka.   

[bilsu]

Shaka is money at MU right now.  It is a fact that his numbers at Texas were nearly identical to Wojo's at MU.   As we all know, that can lead to negative feelings.    I think that fit matters and that MU is a much better fit for Shaka.

I am very happy the way this season is turning out. However, Shaka is doing well because he assembled a team that buys into what he is teaching. He is not going to be a worse coach 5 years from now. However, his success will depend on how much the new players he brings in are willing and able to do what he teaches.

[WhiteTrash]

Shaka is money at MU right now.  It is a fact that his numbers at Texas were nearly identical to Wojo's at MU.   As we all know, that can lead to negative feelings.    I think that fit matters and that MU is a much better fit for Shaka.

I also can't blame UT fans for some negative feelings. In fact, there is some funny stuff there (not sure it was meant to be funny). I was impressed that that many people in Texas care about basketball.

I was listening to a discussion about UT football on the radio the other day about why it doesn't succeed to the level it should and one common opinion was that the boosters have too much say in how things work. Way too many cooks in the kitchen that don't know enough but have the money to influence the program. I would guess that Shaka ran into the same issue.

[UWW2MU]

I hope we get texas in the tourney and destroy them.

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/topic/19896-point-and-laugh-at-shaka-smart/page/11/#comments

I've gone in to check that discussion every once in a while.  There's a few Shaka haters, but mostly it isn't a bad discussion and some entertaining and also informative parts.  But yes, there are a few misguided/myopic posters that have weird or undervalued views on MU and the BE.  They are probably just the types of fans who don't follow ncaab outside their own program/conf much.  All boards have those.

[#UnleashSean]

I've gone in to check that discussion every once in a while.  There's a few Shaka haters, but mostly it isn't a bad discussion and some entertaining and also informative parts.  But yes, there are a few misguided/myopic posters that have weird or undervalued views on MU and the BE.  They are probably just the types of fans who don't follow ncaab outside their own program/conf much.  All boards have those.

The "Shaka will do well at Marquette because it isn't the big 12" was a funny one.

[1SE]

The "Shaka will do well at Marquette because it isn't the big 12" was a funny one.

Yeah, I mean even if you only look at the teams currently in the BE, the BE more than holds its own in terms of tourney success  vis-a-vis the B12 since 2000.

But I get it, he's their Wojo. If Wojo (had a job and) was tearing it up somewhere else this year there would probably be a few salty folks on this board too.

[5DollarPitcher]

If Wojo (had a job and) was tearing it up somewhere else this year there would probably be a few salty folks on this board too.

This is a complete impossibility unless Wojo took a midmajor so far out of our league that we wouldn't care (Cleveland State or something) or they took him back at Duke and he sat in a chair watching Banchero dominate his competition.

Either option there would produce no salt from me. He's too inept to succeed anywhere on Marquette's level - so it's not even a hypothetical worth considering.

[Uncle Rico]

Big XII is the best league in America and it's not particularly close this year

[UWW2MU]

Big XII is the best league in America and it's not particularly close this year

Yes, the conference is having a great year, but the best conferences over the last 7 years has rotated regularly. BE holds up just as strong to the B12 over that span.

[WhiteTrash]

Big XII is the best league in America and it's not particularly close this year

I agree the Big XII is the best but 'not close'? I think the BE / Big XII challenge was pretty close.

[Uncle Rico]

I agree the Big XII is the best but 'not close'? I think the BE / Big XII challenge was pretty close.

KenPom Conference Rankins as of today:

1. Big XII +18.14
2. SEC +14.24
3. Big 14 +14.19
4. Big East +12.54

[LAZER]

Yes, the conference is having a great year, but the best conferences over the last 7 years has rotated regularly. BE holds up just as strong to the B12 over that span.

The B12 has been the best conference over the last 7 years. During the BE's best years it's still not as good as the B12.

[WhiteTrash]

KenPom Conference Rankins as of today:

1. Big XII +18.14
2. SEC +14.24
3. Big 14 +14.19
4. Big East +12.54

Damn facts and data!!

Actually, damn Georgetown. I don't know it for a fact but I'd put the BE top ten v. any other league's top 10  except the Big XII

[Uncle Rico]

Damn facts and data!!

Actually, damn Georgetown. I don't know it for a fact but I'd put the BE top ten v. any other league's top 10  except the Big XII

Yes, the bottom of the Big East hurts this year but it's still a very good league.  Big XII has all 10 teams in the top 60, though 3 of them are between 56-60.  Weird seeing West Virginia down there

[UWW2MU]

The B12 has been the best conference over the last 7 years. During the BE's best years it's still not as good as the B12.

I dont know which metrics people want to use, but B12 was 4th 2 years ago (that was BE best year since realignment).  I'm sure they were not top a few other times, but can't check atm.

Point being, to scoff at BE being at the competitive level of B12 is indeed funny, even if B12 is usually the top conf.

[bilsu]

I dont know which metrics people want to use, but B12 was 4th 2 years ago (that was BE best year since realignment).  I'm sure they were not top a few other times, but can't check atm.

Point being, to scoff at BE being at the competitive level of B12 is indeed funny, even if B12 is usually the top conf.

My metric would be NCAA tournament wins. I will go with the conference with the most NCAA tourney wins.
I am not going to figure it out. I assume last year the Big 12 had more NCAA tourney games won, since Baylor won. Big East probably had more the two years Villanova won the title, but this could be iffy because the rest of the Big East has basically done nothing in the tournament.

[Uncle Rico]

My metric would be NCAA tournament wins. I will go with the conference with the most NCAA tourney wins.
I am not going to figure it out. I assume last year the Big 12 had more NCAA tourney games won, since Baylor won. Big East probably had more the two years Villanova won the title, but this could be iffy because the rest of the Big East has basically done nothing in the tournament.

Crapshoot

[Heisenberg]

Ellenson

He was the 18th pick in the 2016 draft.

So, first-rounder, but not a lottery pick.

[Elonsmusk]

I'm going with 18 as our ranking tomorrow..

[Dr. Blackheart]

14 at CBS.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-duke-rises-to-no-8-in-top-25-and-1-after-cruising-past-rival-north-carolina/

[goldeneagle91114]

Shot in the dark - #17

[JakeBarnes]

Borges has us at 15 up from 25.
Davis 14 from 18

[TallTitan34]

Seth Davis has us at 14