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Author Topic: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/11/2024?  (Read 1007921 times)

MU82

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3150 on: December 01, 2021, 01:04:25 PM »
I wouldn't say that. You just need to understand what it is early in the year and not overly emphasize it. It is also a slow progression towards increased usefulness, not a dramatic switch in January.

No problem there ... you'll never hear me overemphasizing kenpom!

I don't understand fans who get bent out of shape over rankings, especially early in the year. Personally I'd rather be underrated and let our opponents lower their expectations.

I don't "get bent out of shape over rankings." But I like it when we're receiving a little bit of national pub, even if it's manifested mainly in the ESPN crawl. I don't think it hurts for recruits and others to see:

#14 Kentucky 76, Ole Miss 70 ... Cincinnati 66, #15 Memphis 64 ... #16 Marquette 77, #24 Xavier 73 ...

Unless you're pretty bad, you don't sneak up on anybody. And if you're pretty bad, you don't have to worry about being ranked!
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3151 on: December 01, 2021, 01:52:16 PM »
KenPom doesn't randomly guess. The formula looks at last season's stats from players currently on the roster and spits out a projection. KenPom seems to over-reward teams that have minimal roster turnover from year to year. Notre Dame was ranked where they were because they returned their top 4 players and 5 out of their top 6 players, added a stud transfer from Yale, and a 4-star freshman. KenPom may have also anticipated that the oft injured Robby Carmody (former top 100 recruit) would be returning which has not happened.

To answer your question, no, if we were just looking at games this season, we would be ranked higher by KenPom. Sometime in January KenPom only uses data from the current season. Until then, KenPom slowly phases out the data from last season.

TAMU,

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3152 on: December 01, 2021, 03:02:41 PM »
KenPom is never wrong
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3153 on: December 01, 2021, 03:07:14 PM »
KenPom is never wrong

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3154 on: December 01, 2021, 04:33:14 PM »
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/paul-atkinson-1.html
I just found it amusing that Yale would produce a stud transfer...not doubting he exists, but thank you.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3155 on: December 01, 2021, 07:48:55 PM »
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This is very well executed

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3156 on: December 01, 2021, 11:13:54 PM »
KenPom no matta.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3157 on: December 04, 2021, 01:39:04 PM »
Never mind.   
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3158 on: December 06, 2021, 12:45:31 PM »
No longer receiving any votes.
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3159 on: December 06, 2021, 01:28:11 PM »
No longer receiving any votes.

Based on that,  I wonder IF we were able to win both K State and UCLA this week,  would we be ranked?  I imagine it is rare at this point in the season to go from no votes to ranked?

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3160 on: December 06, 2021, 01:45:50 PM »
Based on that,  I wonder IF we were able to win both K State and UCLA this week,  would we be ranked?  I imagine it is rare at this point in the season to go from no votes to ranked?

Lets win both and find out!

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3161 on: December 06, 2021, 02:44:34 PM »
Oh, we are ranked.  Just not in the top 25.  ;D

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3162 on: December 06, 2021, 03:25:37 PM »
Based on that,  I wonder IF we were able to win both K State and UCLA this week,  would we be ranked?  I imagine it is rare at this point in the season to go from no votes to ranked?
RED was unranked/no votes. Won weak-sauce Maui in Vegas and got ranked.
Moron? Maybe. Dork? Possibly. Lost? Definitely.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3163 on: December 06, 2021, 03:32:59 PM »
RED was unranked/no votes. Won weak-sauce Maui in Vegas and got ranked.
Red has a NET of #18 though it does have 4 Quad 3 and 4  wins. Quad 1 win over Houston in the Maui and a 2-1 Quad 2 record do reflect its rank.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3164 on: December 07, 2021, 09:34:18 AM »
This doesn’t affect MU unless we beat K St and UCLA but #20 Florida lost to previously 0-7 Texas Southern by 15 points.

That’s a bad loss and they won’t be ranked next week

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3165 on: January 08, 2022, 09:25:02 AM »
Bump ... because I can!

Seriously, I don't expect us to be ranked, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we get a few votes after just beating two teams -- including one ranked 16th -- by a combined 60 points.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3166 on: January 08, 2022, 09:27:15 AM »
Bump ... because I can!

Seriously, I don't expect us to be ranked, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we get a few votes after just beating two teams -- including one ranked 16th -- by a combined 60 points.

I think we will get a few votes as well. Obviously nothing close to actual ranking but I expect a few.

Find a way to win both next week and have them be relatively impressive as well. Maybe.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3167 on: January 08, 2022, 09:29:29 AM »
I don't see a 10-6 team receiving any votes

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3168 on: January 08, 2022, 09:31:14 AM »
I predict we will be ranked by 2/1.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3169 on: January 08, 2022, 09:31:26 AM »
I don't see a 10-6 team receiving any votes

If we do to Seton Hall what we did to providence then we may get some looks. Right now I think it's viewed by people not watching as a bad team beat down and a fluke win where a good team came out flat.

Also don't lose to Depaul
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3170 on: January 08, 2022, 09:34:47 AM »
I predict we will be ranked by 2/1.

Would love that, but @Nova, Hall 2x, @Xavier and @PC is a tough stretch. Not to mention we have to not come out flat against DePaul.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3171 on: January 08, 2022, 09:41:18 AM »
Would love that, but @Nova, Hall 2x, @Xavier and @PC is a tough stretch. Not to mention we have to not come out flat against DePaul.

Goose is on an optimistic roll. He's predicting we go 7-0 in those 6 games. Fun to see him, and so many others, excited about our program.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3172 on: January 08, 2022, 09:42:32 AM »
Galway

I knew Wojo was not the guy after how the team responded after beating Nova when they were #1. They came out a few days later and looked like a grade school team vs. Georgetown and that was all I needed to know about Wojo being a game changing coach. My gut tells me that some were concerned about laying an egg last night and are concerned about the same against DePaul. Honestly, that is what being a mid major for almost a decade does to a fanbase. When you have ten guys that are all hungry and buying into a system good things happen.

While they do have a tough schedule ahead of them there is not one game that I do not think they have a chance to win going into the game. The BE has a very nice core of good to very good teams, but none of them are unbeatable. Again, this fan is not fearing laying an egg, but rather, keeping the train rolling.


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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3173 on: January 08, 2022, 09:44:04 AM »
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If they do not have a winning record over those seven games, I will be very disappointed.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/14/2020
« Reply #3174 on: January 08, 2022, 09:44:52 AM »
10/6 gets 0 votes.
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