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WhoaJoe2020

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Quote from: MU82 on January 06, 2020, 08:15:22 AM
Yep yep.

And I'd always rather be ranked. Raises profile of the program, even if only a smidgen. Has our scores repeatedly on ESPN's bottom line, which recruits (and their parents) see just as the rest of us do. And just plain makes most MU folks (fans, students, administrators, athletes) feel good. I liked wearing my MU t-shirt to my HS practices last year and having one of our players say, "I saw you guys won again Saturday. What are you ranked now?"

We were ranked most of last season, including during our 20-2 run. One could just as easily argue that being ranked kept our guys focused.
I would usually agree with your point but this team hasn't demonstrated the ability to consistently focus and prepare for games. That's on Wojo. I'm afraid any distraction at this point would be enough to negatively affect them. They're ranked about where they should be and that is good for grounding them in reality. Do I make it sound like the team is fragile at the moment? Maybe.....If Kobys confidence really is back then rank away. I'm not sold it is as of now. And Jamal just plain makes me nervous. It's to be expected though. Guys getting their first real minutes in a major conference, especially the Beast. Another solid win would be huge for so many reasons.

MU82

Quote from: WhoaJoe2020 on January 06, 2020, 01:28:41 PM
I would usually agree with your point but this team hasn't demonstrated the ability to consistently focus and prepare for games. That's on Wojo I'm afraid any distraction at this point would be enough to negatively affect them. They're ranked about where they should be and that is good for grounding them in reality. Do I make it sound like the team is fragile at the moment? Maybe.....If Kobys confidence really is back then rank away. I'm not sold it is as of now. And Jamal just plain makes me nervous. It's to be expected though. Guys getting their first real minutes in a major conference, especially the Beast. Another solid win would be huge for so many reasons.

The team "consistently focused and prepared" for 3 months last season, going 20-2 in the process. Ranked just about the entire time, including advancing into the top-10.

We are 11-3 this season, with 2 road losses to teams that are 17-0 at home and a neutral loss to a top-12 (then top-5) team. I don't think winning our next two and getting ranked, say, No. 22 would change the "focus."

Plus, we weren't ranked when we apparently "lost focus" in our three defeats this season.

Don't overthink it. Rankings are for fans, and this fan would rather have his team ranked.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

dgies9156

Let's get ranked the Dayton way:

1) Play a crappy schedule with the only high NET ranking team, Kansas, you get beat.

2) You play TV Tommy and a Tech with no buzz.

3) You lose to Colorado but the world forgives you because you're UD.

Cripe, using the UD formula, my grade school probably could have been ranked!


Galway Eagle

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 06, 2020, 01:57:02 PM
Let's get ranked the Dayton way:

1) Play a crappy schedule with the only high NET ranking team, Kansas, you get beat.

2) You play TV Tommy and a Tech with no buzz.

3) You lose to Colorado but the world forgives you because you're UD.

Cripe, using the UD formula, my grade school probably could have been ranked!

I wish that Dayton poster who proclaimed the A10 was the greatest thing ever would come back
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

HowardsWorld

This board will melt down if Wisconsin wins its next two games and enters the top 25 first.

brewcity77

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 06, 2020, 01:57:02 PM
Let's get ranked the Dayton way:

1) Play a crappy schedule with the only high NET ranking team, Kansas, you get beat.

2) You play TV Tommy and a Tech with no buzz.

3) You lose to Colorado but the world forgives you because you're UD.

Cripe, using the UD formula, my grade school probably could have been ranked!

The difference between Dayton and us is efficiency. They steamrolled in wins and lost by justthismuch in losses. That's why they are top-10 in the metrics. Had we lost our games by 2-6 points and won everything else fairly decisively, we'd be ranked too.

WhoaJoe2020

Quote from: MU82 on January 06, 2020, 01:45:24 PM
The team "consistently focused and prepared" for 3 months last season, going 20-2 in the process. Ranked just about the entire time, including advancing into the top-10.

We are 11-3 this season, with 2 road losses to teams that are 17-0 at home and a neutral loss to a top-12 (then top-5) team. I don't think winning our next two and getting ranked, say, No. 22 would change the "focus."

Plus, we weren't ranked when we apparently "lost focus" in our three defeats this season.

Don't overthink it. Rankings are for fans, and this fan would rather have his team ranked.
This is a different team than last year in one very major way. You had Sam and Joey who despite their shortcomings had played a lot of basketball together in high pressure settings. When they were on offense during the winning streak Sam and Joey were always calm and under control. This years team doesn't have that level of chemistry and confidence yet. The VU game had its moments where the offense looked in sync, but that stretch in the second half, well.......
That's why I don't have a problem with them not being ranked right now. They still have a lot of things to work on.





Marcus92

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 06, 2020, 02:36:16 PMThe difference between Dayton and us is efficiency. They steamrolled in wins and lost by justthismuch in losses. That's why they are top-10 in the metrics. Had we lost our games by 2-6 points and won everything else fairly decisively, we'd be ranked too.

Agreed. Marquette's three losses aren't bad losses. Maryland (#8), Wisconsin (#24) and Creighton (#41) all rank in the KenPom Top 50. All three losses were either on the road or on a neutral court.

But how we lost matters. Our average losing margin of 18 points has a big impact on the metrics. We haven't consistently played well enough to earn a spot in the Top 25. But there are plenty of conference games remaining to prove we belong.
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BM1090

Quote from: HowardsWorld on January 06, 2020, 02:07:38 PM
This board will melt down if Wisconsin wins its next two games and enters the top 25 first.

I really doubt the board will melt down. Maybe a poster or two.

Goose

What the Badgers are ranked means absolutely nothing to me.

79Warrior

Quote from: Goose on January 06, 2020, 06:50:08 PM
What the Badgers are ranked means absolutely nothing to me.

I don't live in Wisconsin and have no interest in how well they play or not.

We R Final Four

Quote from: BM1090 on January 06, 2020, 05:10:52 PM
I really doubt the board will melt down. Maybe a poster or two.
There's also a poster or two who will enjoy it.

Tennessee Ernie Ford

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 06, 2020, 01:57:02 PM
Let's get ranked the Dayton way:

1) Play a crappy schedule with the only high NET ranking team, Kansas, you get beat.

2) You play TV Tommy and a Tech with no buzz.

3) You lose to Colorado but the world forgives you because you're UD.

Cripe, using the UD formula, my grade school probably could have been ranked!

I'm a longtime lurker, but I had to post; the "ABD" crowd including you, PTM, MU Fan in Connecticut, et al. are all incredibly insecure about UD.  What happened to you?

BM1090

Also, Dayton is legitimately good this year

🏀

Quote from: Tennessee Ernie Ford on January 06, 2020, 07:19:40 PM
I'm a longtime lurker, but I had to post; the "ABD" crowd including you, PTM, MU Fan in Connecticut, et al. are all incredibly insecure about UD.  What happened to you?

This is good.

No one is insecure, they don't belong in the BE. I'm not rehashing it either, it's a throwback now, much like the '92 Cavalier.

ABD.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Tennessee Ernie Ford on January 06, 2020, 07:19:40 PM
I'm a longtime lurker, but I had to post; the "ABD" crowd including you, PTM, MU Fan in Connecticut, et al. are all incredibly insecure about UD.  What happened to you?


JakeBarnes

Man. Voters really screwed up on the colorado voting. Lots seemed to miss the part where they lost to Oregon State on Sunday night (a bunch with them ranked at 9 and 11)
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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MuMark

4 BE teams now ranked.........

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2. Baylor
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4. Auburn
5. Butler
6. Kansas
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11. Louisville
12. West Virginia
13. Dayton
14. Villanova
15. Michigan State
16. Wichita State
17. Maryland
18. Seton Hall
19. Michigan
20. Colorado
21. Ohio State
22. Memphis
23. Texas Tech
24. Illinois
25. Creighton

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Glad to see 4 BE teams in there. About damn time. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

UWW2MU

No Votes for MU this week.

That's still surprising though considering IL is now ranked and our resume looks almost exactly the same.  Even Purdue is getting votes still. 

I'm not saying we deserve it (I don't think we do), but neither do some of these other teams.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: UWW2MU on January 13, 2020, 12:13:31 PM
No Votes for MU this week.

That's still surprising though considering IL is now ranked and our resume looks almost exactly the same.  Even Purdue is getting votes still. 

I'm not saying we deserve it (I don't think we do), but neither do some of these other teams.

Win three in a row like we should and we'll be right back to just outside the top 25, if not just inside. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

marqfan22




brewcity77

Quote from: marqfan22 on January 19, 2020, 06:50:07 PM
Do we get votes tomorrow?

We'll get votes. But we're back in the position we were in before Wisconsin and Maryland and Creighton and Providence. Win all the games this week and we probably get ranked. Don't, and we won't.

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