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Author Topic: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 10/04/19  (Read 267810 times)

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2150 on: February 11, 2019, 11:53:32 AM »
Sick of this damn big name bias. KU can lose all day and only drop one spot a week
 Ridiculous.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2151 on: February 11, 2019, 11:55:08 AM »

Two out of three weekends with no game. What's up with that?

It's a terrible quirk.

Coming off best road game of the season the last thing needed was a six day wait for St. John's. Their performance showed the negative impact of the break. Could be deja vu all over again with DePaul/Butler.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2152 on: February 11, 2019, 11:57:34 AM »
Don't like our odds getting two wins since we only have one game this week.
Lol, thanks for pointing out. I am so focused on the one game at a time mentality I haven't even looked at our schedule. I just look at the scoreboard above on Scoop for the next game, to me that is the schedule.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2153 on: February 11, 2019, 11:58:50 AM »
at least the Butler game is at home

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2154 on: February 11, 2019, 12:01:29 PM »
10 in both polls

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2155 on: February 11, 2019, 12:25:15 PM »
Sick of this damn big name bias. KU can lose all day and only drop one spot a week
 Ridiculous.

Teal?

Nobody can really be this outraged about polls that serve only as conversation pieces.

Like a couple others, I was impressed/pleased that we stayed at No. 10 despite a home loss to an unranked team and that Nova actually moved up a spot after losing to us. The latter says at least a little something about the respect we're receiving IMHO.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2156 on: February 11, 2019, 12:28:52 PM »
Don't like our odds getting two wins since we only have one game this week.


Well crap, now we're totally screwed!

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2157 on: February 11, 2019, 12:39:25 PM »
Nova moves up with the loss. Michigan state drops 2 spots, but Houston moves up 3 and we stay at 10.  WTF?  Houston moves up 3 on the strength of beating Cincy?

I think Houston moved up on the strength of a one loss season after picking up two Quad 1 wins in the toughest week of its conference schedule.  Not that surprising, and tough to deny, to be honest.

Michigan State's drop is probably more a result of three straight losses rather than the Illinois loss in isolation.  I also wouldn't be surprised if they actually move back in front of us next week if they go undefeated this next week, even if we win at DePaul.

As for Nova, a one-point loss in a Quad 1-A road game is a fine look--especially when they had the ball with a chance to steal one on the road.  With so many others losing at the same time, I'm not shocked that they moved up one.  They are still on top of the Big East standings, after all. 

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2158 on: February 11, 2019, 12:51:42 PM »
Sick of this damn big name bias. KU can lose all day and only drop one spot a week
 Ridiculous.

They are also #1 in Q1 victories so that offsets a lot of the losses
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2159 on: February 11, 2019, 12:52:13 PM »
If we were all part of HoustonScoop, we wouldn't feel any need to apologize for where the team is now. If they prove to be fool's gold -- and they might -- we'll see. But it's not ridiculous at all that they're a top-10 team, and they just had a very nice week. This past week, they had arguably 2 more impressive wins than many of our 2-win weeks.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2160 on: February 11, 2019, 01:10:20 PM »
I'll sharpen my pitchfork and get new batteries for my "Fire Wojo!" sign just in case

Do pitchforks go dull on their own?  I've only used mine twice since Thanksgiving.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2161 on: February 11, 2019, 01:23:17 PM »
Don't lose to Depaul, fer chrissakes

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2162 on: February 11, 2019, 02:12:41 PM »
Don't lose to Depaul, fer chrissakes

I hear ya ... But this is not the Depaul of year's past.  They are 5 - 6 tie for third.  Yes, they are tied with half the league for third at  5-6, but for Depaul, this is one of their best results after 11 conference games in the last decade.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2163 on: February 11, 2019, 02:27:28 PM »
I hear ya ... But this is not the Depaul of year's past.  They are 5 - 6 tie for third.  Yes, they are tied with half the league for third at  5-6, but for Depaul, this is one of their best results after 11 conference games in the last decade.

Are you advocating for losing to Depaul?

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2164 on: February 11, 2019, 06:38:36 PM »
Are you advocating for losing to Depaul?

Not at all ...

Your earlier comment suggests you still think Depaul is a 2-16 or 3-15 BE doormat and if we lose to them it is an unspeakable disaster.

The reality is DePaul is tied for third in the BE and will be as difficult to beat on the road as any other BE team not named Villanova.

They will be a tough out.

« Last Edit: February 11, 2019, 06:40:32 PM by Rick Majerus' Towel »

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2165 on: February 11, 2019, 07:51:08 PM »
North Carolina going down!

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2166 on: February 11, 2019, 07:56:34 PM »
The Cavs broke their spirit on a #thing.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2167 on: February 11, 2019, 08:24:52 PM »
North Carolina going down!

I like it. Even though they are only two spots ahead of us, I don't think us beating DePaul (assuming we do) would be enough to pass them. They have a pretty sizeable lead in votes and losing to Virginia even at home likely doesn't cost them that much.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2168 on: February 11, 2019, 08:38:16 PM »
We went 1-1 in 2 home games we were favored in and stayed in the same spot in the polls and some people are complaining we get no respect?

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2169 on: February 11, 2019, 08:48:09 PM »
North Carolina loses by 8 at home to Virginia.
Kansas losing to tcu, a lot of game left....

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2170 on: February 11, 2019, 08:49:23 PM »
Lawson just had a fit on the bench for Kansas.

Said something to Self, got benched, and threw his water cup down. Kansas is a mess right now.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2171 on: February 11, 2019, 10:52:27 PM »
Kansas pulls it off in OT. Only their second road win of the season
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2172 on: February 11, 2019, 11:16:01 PM »
Kansas pulls it off in OT. Only their second road win of the season

This is a great lesson for you younger folk that fawn all over predictive models and advanced statistics..here's a tip..ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS take the more talented team regardless of the #'s say. You can make them say whatever you want them to say..but if you are able to judge talent, and always pick or assume the better team will win.. you won't get it right all the time but you will certainly be right way more than you are wrong..models dont factor in talent.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2173 on: February 11, 2019, 11:19:10 PM »
This is a great lesson for you younger folk that fawn all over predictive models and advanced statistics..here's a tip..ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS take the more talented team regardless of the #'s say. You can make them say whatever you want them to say..but if you are able to judge talent, and always pick or assume the better team will win.. you won't get it right all the time but you will certainly be right way more than you are wrong..models dont factor in talent.

Good point about our ranking
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/11/19
« Reply #2174 on: February 11, 2019, 11:27:58 PM »
This is a great lesson for you younger folk that fawn all over predictive models and advanced statistics..here's a tip..ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS take the more talented team regardless of the #'s say. You can make them say whatever you want them to say..but if you are able to judge talent, and always pick or assume the better team will win.. you won't get it right all the time but you will certainly be right way more than you are wrong..models dont factor in talent.

Yes they do. They measure talent and compare the talent between teams.

Again, the model predicted after 40 minutes that the margin would be 1 point. Instead it was 0. That's accurate.

You don't use a service like KenPom to say that "this team will definitely win". You use it to determine a probability. The probability for this one was a coin flip. And it went to overtime, in other words, a coin flip. It was much more accurate than your eye test was on this game. Unless you expect us to believe that "KANSAS WILL WIN PERIOD" meant that you thought that they would need OT to be what you consider an obviously inferior team.
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