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PGsHeroes32

Am I allowed to say the gophers suck down 31 to 4-12 Illinois???
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

brewcity77

Quote from: Boston Warrior on January 16, 2019, 09:39:23 PM
Marquette top 10 after beating Providence?
Va tech lost
Florida state lost
Texas tech losing
Auburn 1vote ahead last poll...

Lots of possibilities!

Texas Tech lost, we might pass them. Decent chance in the Coaches of making the top-10.

Also...

NC State lost.
Oklahoma lost.
Ole Miss lost.

They weren't ahead of us, but they likely were on some ballots, which should help. Auburn and Kentucky play Saturday, so we should jump one of those in the AP. North Carolina is on the road, albeit at Miami. I didn't expect much movement this week, but as long as we beat Providence, I'll happily be wrong.

tower912

Duke, Kansas, Virginia, Gonzaga, Michigan, Michigan State aren't going anywhere.   OK, Duke's injuries could drop them.  None of the others are likely to lose very many.  Marquette could go undefeated the rest of the way and not crack the top 6.   Or pass Wisconsin in the NET.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2019, 07:12:45 AM
Duke, Kansas, Virginia, Gonzaga, Michigan, Michigan State aren't going anywhere.   OK, Duke's injuries could drop them.  None of the others are likely to lose very many.  Marquette could go undefeated the rest of the way and not crack the top 6.   Or pass Wisconsin in the NET.

This is where I feel preseason publicity is a huge factor in determining ballots. It leaves little room for under the radar teams to crack that top tier of the rankings.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

wadesworld

If we had 1 Big East loss and had a 22 game winning streak going into the NCAA Tournament I would bet every penny and asset I own that we would be ranked in the top 6 in the polls.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: wadesworld on January 17, 2019, 08:07:02 AM
If we had 1 Big East loss and had a 22 game winning streak going into the NCAA Tournament I would bet every penny and asset I own that we would be ranked in the top 6 in the polls.

Same here.

Michigan and Michigan State are each gonna lose at least 3 games(I think that's even generous).

Not sure how in the world we wouldn't pass them if we lost 0 and they lost 3.

I expect all of the top 6 to drop at minimum a handful of games from here on out. Except Gonzaga.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

brewcity77

Quote from: wadesworld on January 17, 2019, 08:07:02 AM
If we had 1 Big East loss and had a 22 game winning streak going into the NCAA Tournament I would bet every penny and asset I own that we would be ranked in the top 6 in the polls.

I'll second that.

tower912

I am not sure that UM or MSU loses to anybody but each other the rest of the way.    Gonzaga isn't going to lose.  UVA is only going to lose 1 or 2.    Kansas and Duke are the most vulnerable, due to their injuries.   If, however, they were to play out the rest of the regular season with only 2-3 more losses each, I do not believe that MU on a 22 game winning streak passes them.   Mostly due to league perception and name recognition.    I hope that we get to find out whether my prediction is right.   I doubt it, but it is a nice dream. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

brewcity77

Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2019, 08:40:25 AM
I am not sure that UM or MSU loses to anybody but each other the rest of the way.    Gonzaga isn't going to lose.  UVA is only going to lose 1 or 2.    Kansas and Duke are the most vulnerable, due to their injuries.   If, however, they were to play out the rest of the regular season with only 2-3 more losses each, I do not believe that MU on a 22 game winning streak passes them.   Mostly due to league perception and name recognition.    I hope that we get to find out whether my prediction is right.   I doubt it, but it is a nice dream.

At least two would lose in the conference tournaments. Duke & UVa play each other twice before then, same for Michigan & MSU. If we're 17-1 and win the BET, we are absolutely in the top-6 of the polls come Selection Sunday.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 17, 2019, 08:57:26 AM
At least two would lose in the conference tournaments. Duke & UVa play each other twice before then, same for Michigan & MSU. If when we're 17-1 and win the BET, we are absolutely in the top-6 of the polls come Selection Sunday.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

brewcity77

Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Again, I hope we get to find out.

+1

I don't expect it to be a talking point come March. I think it will be more 2, 3, or 4?

tower912

I predicted 22-24 wins, top 3 in the Big East.   For argument's sake, suppose I was right and Marquette gets to 24 wins (pre-BEast tourney) which means a 13-5 conference record.     IMO, that will translate to a 4-5 seed.   Primarily because of things previously discussed elsewhere about the NET and the perception that the Big East is down this year. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

PGsHeroes32

I'm fine with any seed 3-6. Not a lot of teams in those groupings scare me.

I would prefer a 3 or 6 tho.

I think the likely 2 seeds will be much more beatable for us
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

wadesworld

Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2019, 09:21:02 AM
I predicted 22-24 wins, top 3 in the Big East.   For argument's sake, suppose I was right and Marquette gets to 24 wins (pre-BEast tourney) which means a 13-5 conference record.     IMO, that will translate to a 4-5 seed.   Primarily because of things previously discussed elsewhere about the NET and the perception that the Big East is down this year.

I think that'll be a 3 seed as long as we don't lose our first BET game.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2019, 09:21:02 AM
I predicted 22-24 wins, top 3 in the Big East.   For argument's sake, suppose I was right and Marquette gets to 24 wins (pre-BEast tourney) which means a 13-5 conference record.     IMO, that will translate to a 4-5 seed.   Primarily because of things previously discussed elsewhere about the NET and the perception that the Big East is down this year.

Using the T Rank teamcast tool, Marquette would be need 25 wins to be a 4 seed. That does not take into account conference tourney results.

20 wins projects to a 9 seed.  So each win is worth roughly one seed line.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: wadesworld on January 17, 2019, 09:49:00 AM
I think that'll be a 3 seed as long as we don't lose our first BET game.

Well, as we know from 2012 and 2013, crapping the bed in your first conference tourney game doesn't really affect anything.

HowardsWorld

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Quote from: Lazar's Headband on January 17, 2019, 09:56:40 AM
Using the T Rank teamcast tool, Marquette would be need 25 wins to be a 4 seed. That does not take into account conference tourney results.

20 wins projects to a 9 seed.  So each win is worth roughly one seed line.

That means go 10-3 the remainder of the season to finish 14-4 in the Big east. That is without playing a single game in the BET. Go 7-0 at home and steal 3 on the road of the remaining 6.  If we are 25-6 going into the first round of the big east a 4 seed in the floor. I think we would be battling for a 2 seed if we won the tournament.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

I tried that tool, there are some interesting results for how it seeded other teams.

I think it will come down to how the committee chooses to evaluate teams. With the NET we really don't know what the committee will value more and value less. For me it is hard to imagine a 25-6 high major team with a non-conference schedule as solid as ours being anything less than a 3 seed. But if the committee is all about efficiency ratings now then maybe we will be lower.
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HowardsWorld

That thing is kind of screwy. Just for argument sake I had Wisconsin finishing with a 21-10 record and they gave them a 3 seed. I don't know how much stock I would put in that right now.

barfolomew

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25379665/college-basketball-power-rankings

ESPN hates the Big East so much, they gave us an extra loss.


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This week: Beat Georgetown 74-71 on Tuesday, vs. Providence (noon ET Sunday, CBSSN)

Markus Howard played just three minutes against Georgetown on Tuesday before departing with back spasms, but the Golden Eagles came back to beat the Hoyas behind 31 points from Sam Hauser and some clutch late defense. Howard's health is obviously paramount moving forward. Coach Steve Wojciechowski said after the game that he was "not sure how serious it is."
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willie warrior

Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2019, 07:12:45 AM
Duke, Kansas, Virginia, Gonzaga, Michigan, Michigan State aren't going anywhere.   OK, Duke's injuries could drop them.  None of the others are likely to lose very many.  Marquette could go undefeated the rest of the way and not crack the top 6.   Or pass Wisconsin in the NET.
Disagree on that one
Winning about 13 straight to 28-3 would definitely put them in top 6
O also disagree that they would win out anyway.
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tower912

Quote from: willie warrior on January 17, 2019, 01:21:28 PM
Disagree on that one
Winning about 13 straight to 28-3 would definitely put them in top 6
O also disagree that they would win out anyway.
I don't think we will win out.   Have stated that repeatedly.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: HowardsWorld on January 17, 2019, 10:39:54 AM
That thing is kind of screwy. Just for argument sake I had Wisconsin finishing with a 21-10 record and they gave them a 3 seed. I don't know how much stock I would put in that right now.

Ha I ran them to a 17-15 record (9 & 11 in conference) and it put them at an 11 seed/last 4 in

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