So....What are we ranked on Monday - 1/6/2025?

[JakeBarnes]

Where can you see who voted for whom?

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/2018

[TallTitan34]

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/jesse-newell/2018/week-11

Hahaha it labels 7 of Newell's picks as extreme (5 or more spots from actual ranking).

[CAGASS24]

Move up 1 freaking spot in the NET for winning a top 100 road game??  Give me a freaking break - 11-6 Purdue and Wisconsin still ahead -

[brewcity77]

Move up 1 freaking spot in the NET for winning a top 100 road game??  Give me a freaking break - 11-6 Purdue and Wisconsin still ahead -

It's a mathematical equation, so that's just how the metric works.

[jsglow]

It's a mathematical equation, so that's just how the metric works.

And it's patently wrong.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Move up 1 freaking spot in the NET for winning a top 100 road game??  Give me a freaking break - 11-6 Purdue and Wisconsin still ahead -

I mean it is a top 100 road game...barely. Georgetown is 99 in NET.

Metrics like NET don't take things like injuries into account. All it knows is that we were expected to win by about 3 and we won by three. Not going to do much for your rankings.

Plus,  if you charted the NET rankings,  Id bet you'd see a bell curve. The closer you are to #1, the more difficult it is to move up.

[JakeBarnes]

I mean it is a top 100 road game...barely. Georgetown is 99 in NET.

Metrics like NET don't take things like injuries into account. All it knows is that we were expected to win by about 3 and we won by three. Not going to do much for your rankings.

Plus,  if you charted the NET rankings,  Id bet you'd see a bell curve. The closer you are to #1, the more difficult it is to move up.

And the more Wisconsin losses, the the higher they get to #1

[brewcity77]

And it's patently wrong.

Patently wrong? No. It's just imperfect, like every other attempt to calculate basketball teams is imperfect. Pomeroy is imperfect, Torvik is imperfect, Sagarin is imperfect, and the NET is imperfect. It's certainly less flawed than the RPI was, which frankly should be the benchmark we are using to evaluate it.

When you have a circumstance where Team A can beat Team B, Team B can beat Team C, and Team C can beat Team A, it makes for a very difficult exact evaluation model. Especially when you have variables like illness, injury tweaks, and other incredibly unpredictable factors. For Marquette, if they want to make strides in the computer models, they need to minimize their losing margins and maximize their winning margins. Thus far we have done the opposite.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

The whole Purdue love baffles me.  Edwards is feeaking awesome, the team sucks, the poll love n the computer love baffles me

[cheebs09]

Patently wrong? No. It's just imperfect, like every other attempt to calculate basketball teams is imperfect. Pomeroy is imperfect, Torvik is imperfect, Sagarin is imperfect, and the NET is imperfect. It's certainly less flawed than the RPI was, which frankly should be the benchmark we are using to evaluate it.

When you have a circumstance where Team A can beat Team B, Team B can beat Team C, and Team C can beat Team A, it makes for a very difficult exact evaluation model. Especially when you have variables like illness, injury tweaks, and other incredibly unpredictable factors. For Marquette, if they want to make strides in the computer models, they need to minimize their losing margins and maximize their winning margins. Thus far we have done the opposite.

"You play to maximize your efficiency!" - College Basketball Herm Edwards

[MarquetteDano]

"You play to maximize your efficiency!" - College Basketball Herm Edwards

Ha.  "Hello!  You play to maximize your computer numbers!"

[jsglow]

Patently wrong? No. It's just imperfect, like every other attempt to calculate basketball teams is imperfect. Pomeroy is imperfect, Torvik is imperfect, Sagarin is imperfect, and the NET is imperfect. It's certainly less flawed than the RPI was, which frankly should be the benchmark we are using to evaluate it.

When you have a circumstance where Team A can beat Team B, Team B can beat Team C, and Team C can beat Team A, it makes for a very difficult exact evaluation model. Especially when you have variables like illness, injury tweaks, and other incredibly unpredictable factors. For Marquette, if they want to make strides in the computer models, they need to minimize their losing margins and maximize their winning margins. Thus far we have done the opposite.

Brew, you're working too hard.  I get it.  I know.   

[brewcity77]

The whole Purdue love baffles me.  Edwards is feeaking awesome, the team sucks, the poll love n the computer love baffles me

4/6 losses by single digits, 16+ point winning margins in 6/11 wins (including top-125 Iowa, Davidson, Rutgers), haven't we covered this pretty thoroughly?

Not sure what poll love, though. Purdue isn't ranked in either poll, 100 points out of being ranked in the AP and only getting 3 points in the Coaches'.

[PGsHeroes32]

4/6 losses by single digits, 16+ point winning margins in 6/11 wins (including top-125 Iowa, Davidson, Rutgers), haven't we covered this pretty thoroughly?

Not sure what poll love, though. Purdue isn't ranked in either poll, 100 points out of being ranked in the AP and only getting 3 points in the Coaches'.

They were ranked for a while for having beaten no one tho.

It's a very meh team

[Osiris]

It's simply a model, not an equation, and a poor one at that.  I wouldn't put too much emphasis on it.  I know the committee is implementing its use this year but I wonder to what degree.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

They were ranked for a while for having beaten no one tho.

It's a very meh team

To be fair, you say pretty much every team sucks on a daily basis.  Doesn't matter if they actually do suck, or are a legit top 25 team. 

[LoudMouth]

To be fair, you say pretty much every team sucks on a daily basis.  Doesn't matter if they actually do suck, or are a legit top 25 team.

ND Sucks

[PGsHeroes32]

To be fair, you say pretty much every team sucks on a daily basis.  Doesn't matter if they actually do suck, or are a legit top 25 team.

Wrong.

I have not once said it about

Michigan, Tennessee(love them),Duke, Gonzaga(love them), Michigan state, Kansas(tho they now appear shaky), Nevada, TT, Ole miss, UNC, Houston, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Miss State, ISU, Iowa, Nebraska and pretty much any another team that's been ranked at somepoint.

I've said all year Purdue is blah when they were ranked. I don't think kentucky is close to what many think and I think Maryland is overrated.

I could add in some other teams I think are smoke and mirrors(some of which are in the first list of teams I haven't mentioned) but I wouldn't want to offend you.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Wrong.

I have not once said it about

Michigan, Tennessee(love them),Duke, Gonzaga(love them), Michigan state, Kansas(tho they now appear shaky), Nevada, TT, Ole miss, UNC, Houston, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Miss State, ISU, Iowa, Nebraska and pretty much any another team that's been ranked at somepoint.

I've said all year Purdue is blah when they were ranked. I don't think kentucky is close to what many think and I think Maryland is overrated.

I could add in some other teams I think are smoke and mirrors(some of which are in the first list of teams I haven't mentioned) but I wouldn't want to offend you.

I mean just a quick scan of your posts....

Kstate sucks. Just can't score. Had a shot to help us

WoW

ISU sucks worse what a choke.

Badgers looked god awful vs minny. Right after losing to WKU and we beat them. Not much justification at this point.

X sucks

But nice to see we can smash a team while not playing well.

Yeah I get ya. My point was more in regards to TT. Whose ranked 11th with 1 loss and has a similarly awful SOS with really minimal in the way of wins...yet SJU is the one punished.

I just don't get the TT love affair.

It's similar to the Purdue love affair a few weeks ago.

Complete joke this Maryland team was ranked at one point.

Complete joke this Maryland team was ranked at one point.

Kentucky is terrible

Herro and everyone of their guards simply are bad at the sport

Hall might get a good win

But it won't stay good.

This Kentucky team is absolutely awful.

Not one player actually knows basketball.

Speaking of unimpressive

Purdue

Jeez i really hope we aren't just not very good.

Offense is terrible again. Missing bunnies.

This UL team isn't good

Auburn themselves were inconsistent and mostly terrible down the stretch.

Clamped down hard in OT

[JakeBarnes]

ND Sucks

This person gets it.

[PGsHeroes32]

I mean just a quick scan of your posts....

Lmao there's a difference between saying Kstate and Iowa state in a game suck.

The badgers comment was a direct explanation to a rankings debate. Apparently also not allowed

TT was in regards to their resume. Again, kinda proves the brain power just isn't up to standard.

Auburn played a terrible game. Not a terrible team.

And that I actually think Purdue Maryland and Kentucky actually suck to their rankings. And even my gripe with Purdue was solely their being ranked with only a win vs Davidson and 4 losses.



And yeah...not sure we are seeing Xavier ranked anytime soon.

So again, nice comp. But really this just proved you got lots of time, bad reading comprhension, are a little weird and dislike any teams being called bad

[PGsHeroes32]

To be fair, you say pretty much every team sucks on a daily basis.  Doesn't matter if they actually do suck, or are a legit top 25 team.

O and do be fair

I said "meh".

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Lmao there's a difference between saying Kstate and Iowa state in a game suck.

The badgers comment was a direct explanation to a rankings debate. Apparently also not allowed

TT was in regards to their resume. Again, kinda proves the brain power just isn't up to standard.

Auburn played a terrible game. Not a terrible team.

And that I actually think Purdue Maryland and Kentucky actually suck to their rankings. And even my gripe with Purdue was solely their being ranked with only a win vs Davidson and 4 losses.



And yeah...not sure we are seeing Xavier ranked anytime soon.

So again, nice comp. But really this just proved you got lots of time, bad reading comprhension, are a little weird and dislike any teams being called bad

Lol just giving you a hard time man. That took me like 3 minutes to do. I don't dislike teams being called bad, but you tend to spout off quite a bit about teams being terrible.

[PGsHeroes32]

Lol just giving you a hard time man. That took me like 3 minutes to do. I don't dislike teams being called bad, but you tend to spout off quite a bit about teams being terrible.

To be fair I spouted off about Purdue and they haven't been back ranked since

And Wisconsin has lost 2 more since I questioned their ranking.

I promise you won't read me saying any of the top 7 suck anytime soon

Except maybe Duke. They might have an actual issue without Tre. We will see how they play Saturday.

[Boston Warrior]

Marquette top 10 after beating Providence?
Va tech lost
Florida state lost
Texas tech losing
Auburn 1vote ahead last poll...

Lots of possibilities!