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Author Topic: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/9/19  (Read 300760 times)

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1200 on: December 10, 2018, 02:22:58 PM »
Looking at his twitter bio, he bases it off of KenPom.  Comparing the two, they are very similar.

That is just pure laziness.  If I wanted to know what the data and metrics say, I would just go to kenpom, et al directly.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1201 on: December 10, 2018, 02:28:26 PM »
That is just pure laziness.  If I wanted to know what the data and metrics say, I would just go to kenpom, et al directly.

It's not exact.  He's flipped a few teams and eliminated others.  But yeah, it's close.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1202 on: December 10, 2018, 02:36:10 PM »
He wrote an article on it that supports e why he did so and I think it's a fine opinion. He refuses to rank teams that haven't played on the road because he asserts they are effectively playing a different game. He also says he treats each week separately and reevaluates them all, so once they do play on the road, they will go to their deserving position, be it in the top-5 or anywhere else.

https://amp.lansingstatejournal.com/amp/2264942002?__twitter_impression=true

The best part was this:

I can respect that.

I can kind of see his point.   If we had scheduled a cupcake instead of on the road vs IU, our schedule would look 1000 times better to the casual observer.   A 9-1 record, losing only to the #1 ranked team, with wins over Louisville, Kansas State, and WI.     We'd probably be top 10 instead of 20+


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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1203 on: December 10, 2018, 02:40:25 PM »
I know of Cecil Hurt from the Paul Finebaum Show. I shocked to know he evens follows basketball. I though he was 100% a football guy.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1204 on: December 10, 2018, 02:41:43 PM »
I know of Cecil Hurt from the Paul Finebaum Show. I shocked to know he evens follows basketball. I though he was 100% a football guy.

Given his rankings he probs doesn't
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1205 on: December 17, 2018, 08:30:06 AM »
Show me #20!

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1206 on: December 17, 2018, 09:52:16 AM »
The big question is what is Buffalo ranked and can they beat Syracuse before coming to Milwaukee?

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1207 on: December 17, 2018, 09:54:59 AM »
I'm going to guess 21. We should pass Nova but will guess we'll drop on a few ballots due to not playing and not being top of mind.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1208 on: December 17, 2018, 10:00:03 AM »
The big question is what is Buffalo ranked and can they beat Syracuse before coming to Milwaukee?

Can they? Sure, but I imagine Boeheim will have the Orange dialed in after losing a buy game to Old Dominion. 2 straight buy losses would be a bad look, though they are both to teams that currently project to win their conferences.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1209 on: December 17, 2018, 10:02:22 AM »
Luke DeCock has us at 23
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1210 on: December 17, 2018, 10:03:04 AM »
The big question is what is Buffalo ranked and can they beat Syracuse before coming to Milwaukee?

Buffalo has been interesting to watch. They gained a ton of credibility by winning at West Virginia who was ranked #13 to start the season. Since then, West Virginia has gone 5-3 with 0 top 100 KenPom wins and 2 losses to teams ranked below 90 in KenPom.

Other than the win at West Virginia, all of Buffalo's wins have been against sub 100 KenPom teams save a 4 point neutral court victory over #48 San Francisco.

They are definitely a top 40 team, and I think may be worthy of an at large bid by season's end, but as a top 15 team they are definitely a paper tiger.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1211 on: December 17, 2018, 10:05:17 AM »
NR from Bozich

Josh Vitale has us at 15

Carino at 21
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1212 on: December 17, 2018, 10:05:32 AM »
Luke DeCock has us at 23
He had us at 24 last week

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1213 on: December 17, 2018, 10:07:12 AM »
Buffalo has been interesting to watch. They gained a ton of credibility by winning at West Virginia who was ranked #13 to start the season. Since then, West Virginia has gone 5-3 with 0 top 100 KenPom wins and 2 losses to teams ranked below 90 in KenPom.

Other than the win at West Virginia, all of Buffalo's wins have been against sub 100 KenPom teams save a 4 point neutral court victory over #48 San Francisco.

They are definitely a top 40 team, and I think may be worthy of an at large bid by season's end, but as a top 15 team they are definitely a paper tiger.

This discussion I'm sure will continue after the North Dakota game, but I had the exact same feeling about Buffalo. I do like a couple of their players.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1214 on: December 17, 2018, 10:26:20 AM »
The big question is what is Buffalo ranked and can they beat Syracuse before coming to Milwaukee?

So many reasons to want Buffalo to win that game - foremost for me is because if they lose, UB would be coming into Milwaukee desperately needing a win to even sniff the rankings for awhile.  And a Syracuse win wouldn't even be good film-room fodder on how we could go about beating them. 

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1215 on: December 17, 2018, 10:28:49 AM »
Several voters didn't have us on their ballot last week.  I'm hoping those voters see MU at 21 and rethink not including them.  Might grab a few extra votes.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1216 on: December 17, 2018, 10:38:40 AM »
Seth Davis has us at 17.

Chris Murray, John Nyatawa, and Mark Berman have us at 16.

Mark Cooper has us at 20.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1217 on: December 17, 2018, 10:51:40 AM »
I don't know if Katz has a vote, but he has us at 15 in his power rankings which may also differ from a ballot.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1218 on: December 17, 2018, 11:36:59 AM »
Up 1 to number 20. Villanova is the only other Big East team receiving votes, though they are no longer ranked.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1219 on: December 17, 2018, 11:37:39 AM »
Up 1 to number 20. Villanova is the only other Big East team receiving votes, though they are no longer ranked.

The site isn't even refreshed, howd you see it?
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« Reply #1220 on: December 17, 2018, 11:39:39 AM »
Up 1 to number 20. Villanova is the only other Big East team receiving votes, though they are no longer ranked.

https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll

StJ is recieving votes, 59 of them, to Nova's 52.

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« Reply #1221 on: December 17, 2018, 11:40:35 AM »
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« Reply #1222 on: December 17, 2018, 11:45:45 AM »
Much closer to 19 than to 21 ... I always like to see that kinda thing for some odd reason.

Buffalo didn't make it to 12, darn it. Still at 14.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1223 on: December 17, 2018, 11:46:09 AM »
Up 1 to number 20. Villanova is the only other Big East team receiving votes, though they are no longer ranked.

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« Reply #1224 on: December 17, 2018, 11:51:40 AM »
There's still voters with KSU and UW on their ballots and have us off. Its ridiculous how some of these guys can claim to take their job seriously...
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