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BM1090

Quote from: mubb3434 on January 23, 2022, 08:06:28 PM
First ballot released is from Seth Davis.

MU checking in at #19. Providence, Nova, and UConn all checking in at 15, 16, and 17. Xavier at 20.

Borges has MU at 25. Two for two on the ballots I've seen.

goldeneagle91114

Quote from: BM1090 on January 23, 2022, 08:10:16 PM
Borges has MU at 25. Two for two on the ballots I've seen.

Can't wait to see where Borges ranks us after we smoke UConn.

warriorstrack

Sorry to be that guy... can someone please post the link where we can see everyone's votes.  Thanks!

MU82

Quote from: mubb3434 on January 23, 2022, 08:06:28 PM
First ballot released is from Seth Davis.

MU checking in at #19. Providence, Nova, and UConn all checking in at 15, 16, and 17. Xavier at 20.

Seems a little high for The Provi and X, but that's fine. I get a kick out of us being ranked behind a team we beat by 649 points.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

DoctorV

Quote from: MU82 on January 23, 2022, 09:19:54 PM
Seems a little high for The Provi and X, but that's fine. I get a kick out of us being ranked behind a team we beat by 649 points.

They are 16-2, 6-1 and MU is 14-6, 6-3.

We whooped em but complete body of work they should be ranked ahead of Marquette.

Get a chance to prove we should be ranked ahead of them in 6 days at the Dunk doe!

MU82

Quote from: DoctorV on January 23, 2022, 09:24:24 PM
They are 16-2, 6-1 and MU is 14-6, 6-3.

We whooped em but complete body of work they should be ranked ahead of Marquette.

Get a chance to prove we should be ranked ahead of them in 6 days at the Dunk doe!

Oh, I totally get that.

And yet I still get a kick out of being ranked behind a team we beat by 4,552 points!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Oldgym

Quote from: warriorstrack on January 23, 2022, 08:45:31 PM
Sorry to be that guy... can someone please post the link where we can see everyone's votes.  Thanks!

Don't have that, but Seth Davis's is here: https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1485432734566825987

JakeBarnes

#3307
So far

Berman 16
Seth Davis 19
Chad Leiatikow 19
Clayton collier 20
Carino 20
Dickie V 22
Borges 25

Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

TAMU, Knower of Ball

We're on the kind of run that allows us to leapfrog the teams in front of us, even if they didn't lose this week...but because some voters only move teams up when the teams in front of them lose...Here's what it looks like ahead of us:

15. Iowa State (665): L @Texas Tech, L vs TCU
16. USC (618): W @Colorado, W @Utah
17. Illinois (521): L vs Purdue, L @Maryland
18. Texas Tech (509): W vs Iowa St, W vs West Virginia
19. Ohio State (465): W vs IUPUI
20. Xavier (427): W @DePaul, L @Marquette
21: Providence (350): W vs Georgetown, W vs Butler
22: Loyola-Illinois (193): W vs Evansville, L @Missouri St
23: Texas (185): L vs Kansas St, W vs Oklahoma St
24: Tennessee (98): W @Vandy, W vs LSU
25: Connecticut (73):  W vs Butler, W @Butler
ORV1: Iowa (56): L @Rutgers, W vs Penn St
ORV2: BYU (50): W vs San Diego, W vs Portland
ORV3: Davidson (34): W @VCU, W @Fordham
ORV4: Alabama (26): W vs LSU, W vs Missouri
ORV5: San Diego St (25): L vs Boise St
ORV6: Miami-Fl (21): W vs North Carolina, L vs Florida St
ORV7: Oregon (15): No games
ORV8: West Virginia (14): L vs Baylor, L @Texas Tech
ORV9: Colorado St (13): W vs New Mexico, W vs Air Force
ORV10: Texas A&M (10): L vs Kentucky, L @Arkansas
ORV11: Oklahoma (7): L vs Kansas, L vs Baylor
ORV12: TCU (4): L @ Oklahoma St, W @Iowa St
t-ORV 13: Indiana (2): W vs Purdue, L vs Michigan
t-ORV 13: North Carolina (2): L @Miami-Fl, L @Wake

I'd divide them up as:

Definitely Pass: North Carolina, Indiana, TCU, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Colorado St, West Virginia, Oregon, Miami (FL), San Diego St, Iowa

Possibly Pass: Davidson, BYU, UConn, Texas, Loyola (IL), Xavier, Illinois, Iowa State

Won't Pass: Alabama, Tennessee, Providence, Ohio State, Texas Tech, USC

I'm going to guess #23
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Dish

I'll be "that guy", it makes zero difference to me if we're ranked/not ranked.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 23, 2022, 10:27:08 PM
We're on the kind of run that allows us to leapfrog the teams in front of us, even if they didn't lose this week...but because some voters only move teams up when the teams in front of them lose...Here's what it looks like ahead of us:

15. Iowa State (665): L @Texas Tech, L vs TCU
16. USC (618): W @Colorado, W @Utah
17. Illinois (521): L vs Purdue, L @Maryland
18. Texas Tech (509): W vs Iowa St, W vs West Virginia
19. Ohio State (465): W vs IUPUI
20. Xavier (427): W @DePaul, L @Marquette
21: Providence (350): W vs Georgetown, W vs Butler
22: Loyola-Illinois (193): W vs Evansville, L @Missouri St
23: Texas (185): L vs Kansas St, W vs Oklahoma St
24: Tennessee (98): W @Vandy, W vs LSU
25: Connecticut (73):  W vs Butler, W @Butler
ORV1: Iowa (56): L @Rutgers, W vs Penn St
ORV2: BYU (50): W vs San Diego, W vs Portland
ORV3: Davidson (34): W @VCU, W @Fordham
ORV4: Alabama (26): W vs LSU, W vs Missouri
ORV5: San Diego St (25): L vs Boise St
ORV6: Miami-Fl (21): W vs North Carolina, L vs Florida St
ORV7: Oregon (15): No games
ORV8: West Virginia (14): L vs Baylor, L @Texas Tech
ORV9: Colorado St (13): W vs New Mexico, W vs Air Force
ORV10: Texas A&M (10): L vs Kentucky, L @Arkansas
ORV11: Oklahoma (7): L vs Kansas, L vs Baylor
ORV12: TCU (4): L @ Oklahoma St, W @Iowa St
t-ORV 13: Indiana (2): W vs Purdue, L vs Michigan
t-ORV 13: North Carolina (2): L @Miami-Fl, L @Wake

I'd divide them up as:

Definitely Pass: North Carolina, Indiana, TCU, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Colorado St, West Virginia, Oregon, Miami (FL), San Diego St, Iowa

Possibly Pass: Davidson, BYU, UConn, Texas, Loyola (IL), Xavier, Illinois, Iowa State

Won't Pass: Alabama, Tennessee, Providence, Ohio State, Texas Tech, USC

I'm going to guess #23

Fox used to have a really great top 25 site that showed you the schedules for the week (and results) for top 25. Wish that still existed

Thanks for tracking down, TAMU
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

JoeSmith1721


MU82

Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 23, 2022, 10:34:43 PM
I'll be "that guy", it makes zero difference to me if we're ranked/not ranked.

How dare you?!?!

But thanks. I was getting 3-1 on you caring. I said no way ... so I won 300 large!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

GooooMarquette


marqfan22

Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 23, 2022, 10:38:07 PM
Fox used to have a really great top 25 site that showed you the schedules for the week (and results) for top 25. Wish that still existed

Thanks for tracking down, TAMU

Any site have rankings that show current week results?

1SE

#3315
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 23, 2022, 10:23:33 PM
So far

Seth Davis 19
Chad Leiatikow 19
Clayton collier 20
Borges 25
Carino 20
Berman 16
Real Warriors Demand Excellence


Dish

I don't need a hug, there are statistical/analytical rankings updated daily/hourly that tell you how good/bad MU is. I don't personally need to know what CJ Moore or Brian Hamilton think of MU to validate things for me. Dickie V has probably watched 20 minutes of MU ball all year. If he thinks MU is #20, cool.

The AP vote is for fun, if you enjoy it, that's great, more power to you. AP vote has no bearing at all on postseason play. If MU is ranked #20 this week, that doesn't mean they should show up as a 5 seed in tournament projections this week. Same silliness that exists if unranked Seton Hall "upsets" #20 MU on Wednesday night, even though SH is -3.5.

If you like it, cool, have fun. I'll go back to yelling at kids to get off my lawn.




5DollarPitcher

Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 24, 2022, 07:41:14 AM
I don't need a hug, there are statistical/analytical rankings updated daily/hourly that tell you how good/bad MU is. I don't personally need to know what CJ Moore or Brian Hamilton think of MU to validate things for me. Dickie V has probably watched 20 minutes of MU ball all year. If he thinks MU is #20, cool.

The AP vote is for fun, if you enjoy it, that's great, more power to you. AP vote has no bearing at all on postseason play. If MU is ranked #20 this week, that doesn't mean they should show up as a 5 seed in tournament projections this week. Same silliness that exists if unranked Seton Hall "upsets" #20 MU on Wednesday night, even though SH is -3.5.

If you like it, cool, have fun. I'll go back to yelling at kids to get off my lawn.
Being ranked in the top 25 is an achievement. A lower level achievement in the grand scheme of possible achievements but one to note nonetheless. It's not a "hug".

You really thought you did something lol

The Sultan

Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 24, 2022, 07:49:28 AM
Being ranked in the top 25 is an achievement. A lower level achievement in the grand scheme of possible achievements but one to note nonetheless. It's not a "hug".

You turned on your computer and managed to post something in this topic.  I mean, it was still your normal nonsense posting, but it's an achievement!  Good job!!!!


Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 24, 2022, 07:49:28 AM
You really thought you did something lol

What does this even mean?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dish

Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 24, 2022, 07:49:28 AM
Being ranked in the top 25 is an achievement. A lower level achievement in the grand scheme of possible achievements but one to note nonetheless. It's not a "hug".

You really thought you did something lol

Context would be your friend here. Hug comment was from what a prior poster said I needed one.

UWW2MU

Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 24, 2022, 07:41:14 AM
I don't need a hug, there are statistical/analytical rankings updated daily/hourly that tell you how good/bad MU is. I don't personally need to know what CJ Moore or Brian Hamilton think of MU to validate things for me. Dickie V has probably watched 20 minutes of MU ball all year. If he thinks MU is #20, cool.

The AP vote is for fun, if you enjoy it, that's great, more power to you. AP vote has no bearing at all on postseason play. If MU is ranked #20 this week, that doesn't mean they should show up as a 5 seed in tournament projections this week. Same silliness that exists if unranked Seton Hall "upsets" #20 MU on Wednesday night, even though SH is -3.5.

If you like it, cool, have fun. I'll go back to yelling at kids to get off my lawn.

It's more than a feel good bit of entertainment.  It actually does have ramifications.   I understand why some people would say "Meh, other rankings and metrics are more important" because they are, but the effects of being ranked are still notable, as laid out very well by Brew:

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 23, 2022, 06:18:49 PM
This is wrong. It does matter. When you're ranked, your name and score is on the crawl of every sports network. Your team is the subject of podcasts and halftime shows. You get better TV placement. You are invited to better non-con tourneys. It makes recruiting easier. There are a ton of benefits, both short and long term, to being ranked. It matters. It unquestionably matters.

panda

Notoriety is huge. It gets our brand in the national spotlight. It also means we're playing great ball. This is important.

DoctorV

I'd rather be top 25 in NET than in the AP.

I'd rather be top 25 in the AP than in no P, if that makes any sense.

Sometimes as ultra fans we forget that casual fans have no idea about any of the metrics. They don't know about KenPom, the NET, adjusted O and D rates, tempos, pick and roll and assist rates, etc etc.

A lot of the times they don't know most of the players on the team.
They know Marquette though, and they know and love success because it gives them pride.

As "bandwagon" as the others might be, we need them all and the team and University needs them all.
It helps in a plethora of ways that many have already listed.

The top 25 helps with that.
The Shaka Era is here and this will be his first top 25 ranking- hopefully MU spends a lot of time there in the next decade!


The Sultan

Quote from: panda on January 24, 2022, 08:37:39 AM
Notoriety is huge. It gets our brand in the national spotlight. It also means we're playing great ball. This is important.

Being ranked is just a byproduct of winning.  I think you and brew are exaggerating the importance of being ranked a bit.  Just keep winning and nothing else matters.

We were ranked numerous times under Wojo and its didn't matter much when we folded up our tents at the end of the year.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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