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SaveOD238

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 07, 2019, 07:58:53 PM
Let's revisit this when they actually play somebody good...

They do have 2 top 50 KenPom road wins (Purdue and Washington), which is exactly 2 more than us.  Their only loss was a road loss by 1 to KenPom #61 Penn State.

Sure they haven't played any ranked teams, but they also haven't gotten blown out on the road twice by fringe top 25 squads.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 07, 2019, 11:49:30 PM
Badgers looked god awful vs minny. Right after losing to WKU and we beat them. Not much justification at this point.

Yeah they got the game close, but really never had a chance with how horrendous everyone but Happ played(and with his 1/8  free throw shooting).

I mean we looked god awful against St Johns and didn't manage to get the score close. They also beat a team on the road by more than we beat a team at home in the same week. I think you can argue how much he dropped each of us but if I was a voter I would have dropped us more spots than Bucky.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Loose Cannon

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 08, 2019, 07:59:40 AM
I mean we looked god awful against St Johns and didn't manage to get the score close. They also beat a team on the road by more than we beat a team at home in the same week. I think you can argue how much he dropped each of us but if I was a voter I would have dropped us more spots than Bucky.

Yep,  we will not impress voters until we can prove we can cross the street by ourselves. 
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 08, 2019, 07:59:40 AM
I mean we looked god awful against St Johns and didn't manage to get the score close. They also beat a team on the road by more than we beat a team at home in the same week. I think you can argue how much he dropped each of us but if I was a voter I would have dropped us more spots than Bucky.

It's less that we dropped more

And the fact we dropped behind them.

That I just don't see at this juncture. I got no qualms with us being somewhere in the 20s.

Just don't think Bucky should be even ranked at this point
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Loose Cannon on January 08, 2019, 08:25:56 AM
Yep,  we will not impress voters until we can prove we can cross the street by ourselves.

This. It definitely feels like road wins are one of the biggest things voters are looking at. Would also help our NET a lot to get a few under our belt. I feel like once the team gets one out of the way, it'll be like the Louisville game for the team's road confidence.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 08, 2019, 09:29:44 AM
It's less that we dropped more

And the fact we dropped behind them.

That I just don't see at this juncture. I got no qualms with us being somewhere in the 20s.

Just don't think Bucky should be even ranked at this point

Gotcha. I'm smelling what you're stepping in.

I think they are getting a lot of credit for being NC State's only loss and their 20 point dismantling of Oklahoma. Two teams that I am still not convinced are as good as their records would suggest.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Marquette4life

If we win our next two, we should move up a decent amount. Where do you guys think our ceiling could be after this week

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Marquette4life on January 09, 2019, 10:05:56 AM
If we win our next two, we should move up a decent amount. Where do you guys think our ceiling could be after this week

At this point, if we were to win both games, we would likely move up to either 18 or 19 (not sure that NC State will be punished that much for losing to UNC).

Looking at the teams in front of us, we could rise as high as #10 IMHO....but that would require Kentucky/Houston/Ohio State/NC State/Nevada to all lose 1 game and Florida State/Auburn/Virginia Tech to lose two games. Highly unlikely that happens. More likely we end up in the 15-17 range.

All that being said, odds currently say we will go 1-1 this week. Should probably win the games before worrying about how much we can move up.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Marquette4life on January 09, 2019, 10:05:56 AM
If we win our next two, we should move up a decent amount. Where do you guys think our ceiling could be after this week

Could be a pretty significant mix-up in the bottom half of the rankings pending the results this week.  IF MU has a 2-0 week, they could climb back to 15-17 range pending other results.  All team teams between us and #12 UNC have a pretty good shot of losing at least 1 game this week, besides perhaps Kentucky and Buffalo (who we obviously already beat).

13. Florida State (vs. Miami tonight; @ Duke on Sat)
14. Mississippi State (L @ South Carolina; vs. Ole Miss on Sat)
15. NC State (L vs. UNC; vs. Pitt on Sat)
16. Ohio State (@ Rutgers tonight; @ Iowa on Sat)
17. Houston (@ Temple tonight; vs. Wichita on Sat)
18. Kentucky (W vs. TA&M; vs. Vandy on Sat)
19. Buffalo (W vs. Toledo; vs. Miami OH on Sat)
20. Iowa State (L @ Baylor; vs. K State on Sat)
21. Marquette (@ Creighton tonight; vs. Seton Hall on Sat)
22. Indiana (@ Maryland Fri)
23. Oklahoma (L @ Texas Tech; vs. TCU on Sat)
24. St. Johns (L @ Nova; vs. Depaul on Sat)
25. TCU (@ Kansas tonight; @ Oklahoma on Sat)
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

brewcity77

11 Auburn lost to unranked South Carolina, 16 Ohio State lost to unranked Rutgers, and 17 Houston lost to unranked Temple. Along with the Mississippi State, NC State, & Iowa State losses, a win over Seton Hall could put us in the top-15.


forgetful

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 09, 2019, 10:32:53 PM
11 Auburn lost to unranked South Carolina, 16 Ohio State lost to unranked Rutgers, and 17 Houston lost to unranked Temple. Along with the Mississippi State, NC State, & Iowa State losses, a win over Seton Hall could put us in the top-15.

Probably will end up 16, with Buffalo in front of us at 15.

BM1090

Would guess we pass Mississippi State, Iowa State, Ohio State and Houston. Could pass Buffalo since we had 2 good wins this week. Maybe NC State.

Between 15 and 17. I'll go 17 as I don't think NC State will be penalized too much

MU82

I'll say 15 because that's what I want it to be!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

The most important 2 numbers for the week are the 2 in the win column and the 0 in the loss column.

muwarrior69

If Nova wins tomorrow will they re ranked?

brewcity77


1SE

16. Keep winning and it will take care of itself.
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rocket surgeon

too early to be ranked where i think we should be.  the higher the rank, the bigger the target on your back,  just win baby, but stay under the radar until the final weeks.  top 10 going into MM would be cool
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

MU82

Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 13, 2019, 06:29:57 AM
too early to be ranked where i think we should be.  the higher the rank, the bigger the target on your back,  just win baby, but stay under the radar until the final weeks.  top 10 going into MM would be cool

I understand why you'd prefer this, but it's too late.

We are nowhere near "under the radar" any more. Heck, there have been a dozen national articles/TV segments about Markus alone.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

SaveOD238

Quote from: MU82 on January 13, 2019, 07:34:21 AM
I understand why you'd prefer this, but it's too late.

We are nowhere near "under the radar" any more. Heck, there have been a dozen national articles/TV segments about Markus alone.

I think the publicity we got after Wednesday's game could be worth an extra spot or two in the polls.  Basically everyone 10-20 lost this week, so there is a LOT of room to move up.  I'm going with #12.

DarkWarrior

I agree the rankings are at least partially a PR game. I think we may break into the Top 15. MU suddenly has great entertainment value!

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

JakeBarnes

#1548
I will say 15. This is a really weird week. We definitely jump past Houston, Miss St, Ohio St and Iowa State. Leapfrog Buffalo as part of it.

It is going to be interesting to see how voters treat NC and NC State.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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burger

As always #17 + 1 for the anti-catholic thing......

So 18......

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