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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.


Abode4life

Well i would hope that Marquette would allow students to form a Muslim student group if they wished. 

MUBurrow

Just another good example of the "it really had to come to this?" variety.

Its not like the times when Muslims need to pray is a surprise. Just have a schedule with an open space and be done with it.

On the other side of the coin, I understand that praying in the chapel is not the ideal option (although you would think thats as much of a concession from the Catholics as the Muslims) but at the same time, if all Catholic U's classrooms have crucifixes in them, I don't really see why that must preclude those rooms from being acceptable rooms for worship.

augoman

if in fact they (muslim students) find the catholic artifacts so 'disturbing'..., I would think they would prefer to go to another university.  Certainly puzzeled by their choice of Catholic University, but, as this is America, they are free to choose another school.

ZiggysFryBoy

MU has a cross in every classroom.  a lot with cool/interesting stories on where the cross is from or who gave it to MU.

augoman


foreverwarriors

I definitely laughed at this comment after the story: 'it's like going to a strip club and not expecting nudity'

4everwarriors

Quote from: Z F-B on October 27, 2011, 01:46:08 PM
MU has a cross in every classroom.  a lot with cool/interesting stories on where the cross is from or who gave it to MU.


Yo bro, only if said building was constructed without the use of public funds.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Ari Gold

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Quote from: Abode4life on October 27, 2011, 12:03:53 PM
Well i would hope that Marquette would allow students to form a Muslim student group if they wished.

Are you fracking kidding me?
A quick search of Marquette Student orgs revealed: http://www.marquette.edu/explore/studentorgs1.shtml

Campus Crusade for Christ
Chinese Christian Fellowship
Christian Fellowship of Marquette
InterVarsity Christian Fellowship
Jewish Student Union
Knights of Columbus
Latter Day Saint Student Association
Lutheran Student Union
Muslim Student Association
Schoenstatt University Men
St. Robert Bellarmine Society
WELS Ministry — Marquette University


Motherfracking Prophet fracking Muhammad that wasn't hard to research.  

Buzzed

4th floor of the union there is a Muslim prayer room.  Floor mats and everything, don't forget to take off your shoes.

warriorchick

Hmmm...If there were a Muslim University in D.C., how do you think Catholic students would be treated?
Have some patience, FFS.

MUBurrow

I don't know - if only we had some unfair, biased preconceptions upon which we could base a hypothetical answer...

Hards Alumni


GGGG

Jeez people.  They aren't complaining about religious symbols in the classroom.  They aren't complaining about the core curriculum having too many religion classes.  They are complaining about the lack of an appropriate room for them to conduct their religious rituals.  Most of the universities in this country have Muslim prayer rooms - it really isn't that difficult nor is it too much to ask.  As mentioned, MU has one now...and had one when I was a student their 25 years ago.

augoman

You're half right, Sultan..., they aren't complaining-they're suing.  A Muslim prayer room?  What's wrong with the participants renting a room of their own to pray in.  Must the Catholic University provide this?  In New York they kneel in the street-I suppose the city should build them a large 'Muslim prayer room'? 
Further, in the article as I read it, they DID complain about the "Catholic artifacts" being disturbing to them, and found them objectionable. 
I see no reason why this group cannot harmoniously exist at the chosen school, except for the 'professor' from Geo Wash that filed the lawsuit ostensibly on their behalf.

wyzgy

drip drip drip...as the frog says, sure is gettin warm in here, what's cookin??

Marqevans

When does private school mean private school? 

GGGG

Quote from: MARQEVANS on October 31, 2011, 07:32:34 PM
When does private school mean private school? 

Ooo...Oooo... Let me answer...

Not when their students accept federal financial aid.

MUMac

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 31, 2011, 08:16:32 PM
Ooo...Oooo... Let me answer...

Not when their students accept federal financial aid.

Because the student accepts federal financial aid they no longer are Private Schools?  Weak, very weak.  But at least you got the Arnold Horshack bit down.

reinko

Quote from: MUMac on October 31, 2011, 08:59:10 PM
Because the student accepts federal financial aid they no longer are Private Schools?  Weak, very weak.  But at least you got the Arnold Horshack bit down.

Slow down chief.  Sultan was not talking about the students, talking about the university accepting federal funds.


GGGG

Quote from: MUMac on October 31, 2011, 08:59:10 PM
Because the student accepts federal financial aid they no longer are Private Schools?  Weak, very weak.  But at least you got the Arnold Horshack bit down.


Well, like it or not, when private schools accept federal financial aid for its students, it opens them up to all sorts of federal regulation - such as Title IX.  This includes non-descrimination on basis of religion, which of course is a very murky area of law. 

So it may be weak, but it's not my weakness.

Now that being said, this suit wasn't filed by anyone at CUA, but by a citizen of DC using the *city's* anti-descrimination law.  Now THAT is weak...

Abode4life

Quote from: Ari Gold on October 27, 2011, 07:40:00 PM
Are you fracking kidding me?
A quick search of Marquette Student orgs revealed: http://www.marquette.edu/explore/studentorgs1.shtml

Campus Crusade for Christ
Chinese Christian Fellowship
Christian Fellowship of Marquette
InterVarsity Christian Fellowship
Jewish Student Union
Knights of Columbus
Latter Day Saint Student Association
Lutheran Student Union
Muslim Student Association
Schoenstatt University Men
St. Robert Bellarmine Society
WELS Ministry — Marquette University


Motherfracking Prophet fracking Muhammad that wasn't hard to research.  

Take it easy there.  My comment was to the original post which said, "can something like this happen at MU?".  I didn't ask a question, nor do I care if there actually is one.  As long as MU allows students to practice their own faith, this won't be a problem. 


augoman

not to nitpick, but Catholic University is allowing the Muslims to practice their own religion..., just not providing a room devoid of all Catholic 'artifacts'.  Hence, the third party lawsuit.  Accommodating them is one thing, but apparently not bending over backwards requires a lawsuit.

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